(10-23-2017 04:09 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  We would have been lucky to win 5 games had Graham started all the games...

Their record would be exactly the same as it is now. Maybe better because they could have beaten SDSU.

(10-23-2017 04:11 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 04:09 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  We would have been lucky to win 5 games had Graham started all the games...

Their record would be exactly the same as it is now. Maybe better because they could have beaten SDSU.

Pretty unlikely IMO.

(10-23-2017 04:11 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 04:09 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  We would have been lucky to win 5 games had Graham started all the games...

Their record would be exactly the same as it is now. Maybe better because they could have beaten SDSU.

Graham would not have performed at santas level at SDSU lol I hope that's not what he was trying imply

(10-21-2017 10:46 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 07:45 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 06:26 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  I think "we" beat one of the worst teams in FBS. It was absolutely a good win, but will hold judgement until after this weeks game

They're 5-2 now and their only losses were 1 play games against one of the best teams in the group of 5 and what looks like a pretty decent Boston College team.

I'm not sure what else you need to see.

Those qualify as good losses. But what are the good wins? Nebraska may go 6-6. Maybe. But I'm guessing 5-7. That's a decent win, but is a sub .500 big 10 team win what we count as good? EIU, kent, buff and BG don't really put a feather in your cap. I think this team is good. But I'll need to see Childers win a game when they need him before I start thinking MACC.

They will need him to beat EMU. This game is no gimme.

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(10-22-2017 12:39 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-22-2017 10:18 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-22-2017 09:57 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-22-2017 09:52 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  Because we are excited again and off the #fireCarey bandwagon for at least four more days...

Follow @accessbowlmath on Twitter. Let's have a bit of fun for a few weeks.

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(10-22-2017 05:00 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-22-2017 11:36 AM)Max Power Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 10:46 PM)Rabid Squirrel Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 07:45 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-21-2017 06:26 PM)HuskiePride12 Wrote:  I think "we" beat one of the worst teams in FBS. It was absolutely a good win, but will hold judgement until after this weeks game

They're 5-2 now and their only losses were 1 play games against one of the best teams in the group of 5 and what looks like a pretty decent Boston College team.

I'm not sure what else you need to see.

Those qualify as good losses. But what are the good wins? Nebraska may go 6-6. Maybe. But I'm guessing 5-7. That's a decent win, but is a sub .500 big 10 team win what we count as good? EIU, kent, buff and BG don't really put a feather in your cap. I think this team is good. But I'll need to see Childers win a game when they need him before I start thinking MACC.

Actually I wouldn't be surprised if Nebraska goes 7-5, with 3 of their losses to top 10 teams. Purdue, NW, MN, IA isn't a murderer's row; only NW is even .500 in B1G.

You're using the same argument for Nebraska that 7 did for NIU. Quality losses. Nebraska has no quality wins either. So There's no reason to think Nebraska is better than NW, MN, IA or Purdue because those teams all lost to OSU,wisc, penn st and MSU as well. Or each other. Nebraska and NIU both need a few more conference games to gauge where they're at. But I feel NIU is in better shape than Nebraska to finish. Neb goes 2-3. NIU goes 4-1

Don't get me wrong. The Nebraska win is a great historical victory. Just not sure it's a great measuring stick. Many here, myself included, hammered WMU for using its win over 6-6 NU as their marquee victory last season.

But WMU was undedeated. They scheduled the best they could and beat them all. When you have a loss then you start playing the coulda, shoulda games and hoping the other teams win-out.

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(10-23-2017 04:11 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 04:09 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  We would have been lucky to win 5 games had Graham started all the games...

Their record would be exactly the same as it is now. Maybe better because they could have beaten SDSU.

I love rhetorical debates...nobody is wrong; but this comment is difficult to comprehend.

(10-23-2017 06:31 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 04:11 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 04:09 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  We would have been lucky to win 5 games had Graham started all the games...

Their record would be exactly the same as it is now. Maybe better because they could have beaten SDSU.

I love rhetorical debates...nobody is wrong; but this comment is difficult to comprehend.

How? Which game would they have lost? MAYBE Nebraska.

EIU was an easy win (EIU scored 10 points)
Kent was an easy win (Kent Scored 3 points)
Buffalo, Childers was terrible and they won in spite of him
Bowling Green, I think you could have played QB and still won.

Nebraska, Santa made one throw the entire game. I can see the argument Graham doesn't hit that throw (you're probably right), but who is to say Graham doesn't move the ball on another drive? For as bad as he was against BC, he still led the offense to 20 points.

(10-23-2017 06:35 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 06:31 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 04:11 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 04:09 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  We would have been lucky to win 5 games had Graham started all the games...

Their record would be exactly the same as it is now. Maybe better because they could have beaten SDSU.

I love rhetorical debates...nobody is wrong; but this comment is difficult to comprehend.

How? Which game would they have lost? MAYBE Nebraska.

EIU was an easy win (EIU scored 10 points)
Kent was an easy win (Kent Scored 3 points)
Buffalo, Childers was terrible and they won in spite of him
Bowling Green, I think you could have played QB and still won.

Nebraska, Santa made one throw the entire game. I can see the argument Graham doesn't hit that throw (you're probably right), but who is to say Graham doesn't move the ball on another drive? For as bad as he was against BC, he still led the offense to 20 points.

This my point, we will never know; so you're not wrong. I agree with most of what you are saying; Graham may have been better than Santa throughout the Nebraska game; however, I do think that Santa is the only QB we have that can make that throw once we got down (quite frankly not many QBs, period, can make that throw). His 2nd pass to Blake on that same drive was also very impressive. I am not sure any QB we have can make the throws necessary to come back against SDSU; the rebuttal to that is poor decison making on the pick 6 contributed to the deficit. With Childers and the current offense, the key is not going down by more than two scores. It's kinda like a good triple option team back in the day. With our D and our schedule I don't think this happens for the rest of the season.

(10-23-2017 07:10 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 06:35 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 06:31 PM)Djud Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 04:11 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 04:09 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  We would have been lucky to win 5 games had Graham started all the games...

Their record would be exactly the same as it is now. Maybe better because they could have beaten SDSU.

I love rhetorical debates...nobody is wrong; but this comment is difficult to comprehend.

How? Which game would they have lost? MAYBE Nebraska.

EIU was an easy win (EIU scored 10 points)
Kent was an easy win (Kent Scored 3 points)
Buffalo, Childers was terrible and they won in spite of him
Bowling Green, I think you could have played QB and still won.

Nebraska, Santa made one throw the entire game. I can see the argument Graham doesn't hit that throw (you're probably right), but who is to say Graham doesn't move the ball on another drive? For as bad as he was against BC, he still led the offense to 20 points.

This my point, we will never know; so you're not wrong. I agree with most of what you are saying; Graham may have been better than Santa throughout the Nebraska game; however, I do think that Santa is the only QB we have that can make that throw once we got down (quite frankly not many QBs, period, can make that throw). His 2nd pass to Blake on that same drive was also very impressive. I am not sure any QB we have can make the throws necessary to come back against SDSU; the rebuttal to that is poor decison making on the pick 6 contributed to the deficit. With Childers and the current offense, the key is not going down by more than two scores. It's kinda like a good triple option team back in the day. With our D and our schedule I don't think this happens for the rest of the season.

While its disappointing all the QB flip flops early in the year, at least the best QB is playing now, so at least thats some comfort, and some credit to Carey.

(10-23-2017 04:54 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 04:11 PM)7 Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 04:09 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  We would have been lucky to win 5 games had Graham started all the games...

Their record would be exactly the same as it is now. Maybe better because they could have beaten SDSU.

Graham would not have performed at santas level at SDSU lol I hope that's not what he was trying imply

Hopefully we won't have to find out what effect Graham will have if he starts for the Huskies again. I like the kid but he was part of the problem last year not the solution. When Maddie took over for him, it was like night and day. When Santa took over for him, he and Huff erased a 21-0 deficit to beat EMU and Santa led us to a 3-game winning streak.

(10-22-2017 12:39 PM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-22-2017 10:18 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(10-22-2017 09:57 AM)Dog Fan Wrote:  

(10-22-2017 09:52 AM)BleedsHuskieRed Wrote:  Because we are excited again and off the #fireCarey bandwagon for at least four more days...

Follow @accessbowlmath on Twitter. Let's have a bit of fun for a few weeks.

We have a great team! With our offense, the Access Bowl and a Big 12 invite are just around the corner!

Did you buy your Big 12 T-shirt yet?

No, I am holding out until I get that Presbyterian College game day shirt I ordered!

Sweet. I ordered a game day shirt with UT Martin on the back, and Cal Poly on the front. It'll be awesome.

(10-23-2017 07:32 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  While its disappointing all the QB flip flops early in the year, at least the best QB is playing now, so at least thats some comfort, and some credit to Carey.

I am not at all sure that the best QB is playing now but it doesn't matter. It is time to get behind Childers as he is now the starter.

(10-23-2017 07:55 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 07:32 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  While its disappointing all the QB flip flops early in the year, at least the best QB is playing now, so at least thats some comfort, and some credit to Carey.

I am not at all sure that the best QB is playing now but it doesn't matter. It is time to get behind Childers as he is now the starter.

+1

(10-25-2017 10:58 AM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 07:55 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 07:32 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  While its disappointing all the QB flip flops early in the year, at least the best QB is playing now, so at least thats some comfort, and some credit to Carey.

I am not at all sure that the best QB is playing now but it doesn't matter. It is time to get behind Childers as he is now the starter.

+1

At least the best on the current roster, that much we know

(10-25-2017 12:03 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-25-2017 10:58 AM)sterling1man Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 07:55 PM)bikechuck Wrote:  

(10-23-2017 07:32 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  While its disappointing all the QB flip flops early in the year, at least the best QB is playing now, so at least thats some comfort, and some credit to Carey.

I am not at all sure that the best QB is playing now but it doesn't matter. It is time to get behind Childers as he is now the starter.

+1

At least the best on the current roster, that much we know

you don't know that. He might be the best for our system, but you can't say he is the best QB. They're young without a lot of experience and they all have their strong points and talents.

Why do you respond to him lol