RE: Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathro
(10-20-2017 12:44 PM)JDTulane Wrote:
(10-20-2017 12:41 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:
(10-20-2017 12:30 PM)EpicNiner Wrote:
(10-20-2017 12:07 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote: I think the hardest part for me to deal with is the fact that some of you are more concerned about the fact this happened in a private residence just to prove the right wrong on the bathroom bill issue rather than address the real problem... sick and disturbed people.
It’s a horrible crime and the perpetrator deserves a harsher punishment than 70 years. But the first few replies were conservatives who brought up the bathroom bills. The libs on the board didn’t make it political.
One of those was me, I incorrectly thought it was a public bathroom. I didn't read the entire article before posting. Lesson learned. Still, the counter debate on this thread is what makes me scratch my head a bit. Anyways, you're right. This creep deserves a lot more than he'll get.
Post #7 by me responded to the incident itself. The response over distinguishing between private and public restroom is clearly because this will be politicized and used against trans bathroom bill proponents.
Makes sense. In retrospect, it seems almost natural for us (all of us if we're honest with ourselves) to lean towards political bias when things occur that justify or disagree with our stance. Ability to explain reasoning and move forward in professional disagreement is a must in society these days. Thanks for helping me keep honest there!
RE: Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathro
(10-20-2017 11:40 AM)JDTulane Wrote:
(10-20-2017 11:37 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote: The torment the poor child is experiencing now is on them.
Care to explain to me how a family acquaintance raping a child in a private residence bathroom is somehow the fault of liberals? Or rather you blamed the torment on liberals. Either way... go ahead and justify your statement a little further please. I find it abhorrent.
My comments had nothing to do with the bathroom bill.
The Molester clearly has psychological issues and needs treatment. Had this person been in therapy and had been under the care of a trained psychologist the issues we already know they have (GID) their psychological sexual issues could have been dealt with in a positive manor.
Instead libs want to push this 'accept everyone as they are' bullsh*t. People who need therapy aren't getting it. When people with psychological issues don't get treatment bad things result.
One of my best friends that I went to school with when I was younger is Trans. (I found out three years ago) He has been in counseling for years though to help him cope with his issues. He's flat out said to me that without proper treatment he'd probably be a complete basket case.
It's amazing what happens when you give people treatment instead of pandering to their issues. We don't have an acceptance movement for schizophrenia, why should we have one for Gender Identity Dysphoria?
You know what we do with people with Schizophrenia? We try to give them treatment so they don't become another David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) who thought his neighbors dog told him to kill people.
Someone with an sexual identity disorder... nah... let them remain all mentally mixed up and confused... and how about we celebrate it instead.
I deeply feel for people with GID, that's why I want them to get treatment so they can live a more fulfilled life. No that doesn't mean I'm against people transitioning, nor do I think people should force them to live a certain way. If a trained professional thinks is best for them to transition, and they are in therapy and being medically/psychologically monitored during their transition, I'm 100% fine with it.
(This post was last modified: 10-20-2017 12:55 PM by q5sys.)
(10-20-2017 11:37 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote: The torment the poor child is experiencing now is on them.
Care to explain to me how a family acquaintance raping a child in a private residence bathroom is somehow the fault of liberals? Or rather you blamed the torment on liberals. Either way... go ahead and justify your statement a little further please. I find it abhorrent.
My comments had nothing to do with the bathroom bill.
Mine either. I was just mentioning that I was told that transgender people molesting those of the opposite (or is is same, I can't keep it straight) was not going to be an issue.
But perhaps that is not the case?
If I am going to be held by liberals as guilty for every transgression by a white male, then liberals are not going to like when I apply those same rules back to them.
RE: Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathro
(10-20-2017 01:10 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:
(10-20-2017 12:53 PM)q5sys Wrote:
(10-20-2017 11:40 AM)JDTulane Wrote:
(10-20-2017 11:37 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote: The torment the poor child is experiencing now is on them.
Care to explain to me how a family acquaintance raping a child in a private residence bathroom is somehow the fault of liberals? Or rather you blamed the torment on liberals. Either way... go ahead and justify your statement a little further please. I find it abhorrent.
My comments had nothing to do with the bathroom bill.
Mine either. I was just mentioning that I was told that transgender people molesting those of the opposite (or is is same, I can't keep it straight) was not going to be an issue.
Trans people have every bit as much capability as the general population to commit acts of violence. No one has ever told you trans people never commit crimes.
RE: Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathro
(10-20-2017 01:16 PM)JDTulane Wrote: Trans people have every bit as much capability as the general population to commit acts of violence. No one has ever told you trans people never commit crimes.
Sucks when people stereotype and paint with a broad brush, doesn't it? I wish we all were not so hasty to do so.
(says the gun-owning, Trump-voting, white, straight conservative male.)
RE: Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathro
(10-20-2017 12:53 PM)q5sys Wrote:
(10-20-2017 11:40 AM)JDTulane Wrote:
(10-20-2017 11:37 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote: The torment the poor child is experiencing now is on them.
Care to explain to me how a family acquaintance raping a child in a private residence bathroom is somehow the fault of liberals? Or rather you blamed the torment on liberals. Either way... go ahead and justify your statement a little further please. I find it abhorrent.
My comments had nothing to do with the bathroom bill.
The Molester clearly has psychological issues and needs treatment. Had this person been in therapy and had been under the care of a trained psychologist the issues we already know they have (GID) their psychological sexual issues could have been dealt with in a positive manor.
Instead libs want to push this 'accept everyone as they are' bullsh*t. People who need therapy aren't getting it. When people with psychological issues don't get treatment bad things result.
One of my best friends that I went to school with when I was younger is Trans. (I found out three years ago) He has been in counseling for years though to help him cope with his issues. He's flat out said to me that without proper treatment he'd probably be a complete basket case.
It's amazing what happens when you give people treatment instead of pandering to their issues. We don't have an acceptance movement for schizophrenia, why should we have one for Gender Identity Dysphoria?
You know what we do with people with Schizophrenia? We try to give them treatment so they don't become another David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) who thought his neighbors dog told him to kill people.
Someone with an sexual identity disorder... nah... let them remain all mentally mixed up and confused... and how about we celebrate it instead.
I deeply feel for people with GID, that's why I want them to get treatment so they can live a more fulfilled life. No that doesn't mean I'm against people transitioning, nor do I think people should force them to live a certain way. If a trained professional thinks is best for them to transition, and they are in therapy and being medically/psychologically monitored during their transition, I'm 100% fine with it.
Its basically the same thing as anorexia (unless there is some rare genetic abnormality). Somebody has deep issues and is unhappy with their body and does extreme things to change it. Doesn't change the underlying issues.
RE: Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathro
(10-20-2017 12:49 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: It did this in a private residence. Nothing though would stop it from doing this in a public restroom. That is the point.
The bathroom bill is not an issue that I've been too invested in. But the part that I've had trouble figuring out is that if a sicko is going to molest a child (a very serious crime) than what good would a law preventing them from entering a bathroom (a less serious crime) do? Just seems to me that if they are messed up enough to sexually assault a child, they probably won't be too concerned about the possibility of being charged with going in the wrong bathroom. So, realistically, the law won't stop them from doing it in a public restroom either - just my thoughts.
(10-20-2017 11:37 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote: The torment the poor child is experiencing now is on them.
Care to explain to me how a family acquaintance raping a child in a private residence bathroom is somehow the fault of liberals? Or rather you blamed the torment on liberals. Either way... go ahead and justify your statement a little further please. I find it abhorrent.
My comments had nothing to do with the bathroom bill.
The Molester clearly has psychological issues and needs treatment. Had this person been in therapy and had been under the care of a trained psychologist the issues we already know they have (GID) their psychological sexual issues could have been dealt with in a positive manor.
Instead libs want to push this 'accept everyone as they are' bullsh*t. People who need therapy aren't getting it. When people with psychological issues don't get treatment bad things result.
One of my best friends that I went to school with when I was younger is Trans. (I found out three years ago) He has been in counseling for years though to help him cope with his issues. He's flat out said to me that without proper treatment he'd probably be a complete basket case.
It's amazing what happens when you give people treatment instead of pandering to their issues. We don't have an acceptance movement for schizophrenia, why should we have one for Gender Identity Dysphoria?
You know what we do with people with Schizophrenia? We try to give them treatment so they don't become another David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) who thought his neighbors dog told him to kill people.
Someone with an sexual identity disorder... nah... let them remain all mentally mixed up and confused... and how about we celebrate it instead.
I deeply feel for people with GID, that's why I want them to get treatment so they can live a more fulfilled life. No that doesn't mean I'm against people transitioning, nor do I think people should force them to live a certain way. If a trained professional thinks is best for them to transition, and they are in therapy and being medically/psychologically monitored during their transition, I'm 100% fine with it.
Its basically the same thing as anorexia (unless there is some rare genetic abnormality). Somebody has deep issues and is unhappy with their body and does extreme things to change it. Doesn't change the underlying issues.
I dont think I'd lump it in the same category as anorexia. That's simply an issue of perceiving yourself to be overweight when you're not and effectively trying to limit your food intake to lose weight.
Where as anorexic people claim to be unhappy with their body size. Individuals with GID tend to feel their entire body is wrong, hence why you'll hear the phrase, "I was born in the wrong body." So to me, that's less a "I'm unhappy with X feature of my body" and more a "This entire body is wrong".
In that way I'd say its much more closer to something like Body integrity identity disorder.
Quote:Body integrity identity disorder BIID, also referred to as amputee identity disorder, is a psychological disorder in which otherwise healthy individuals perceive one or more of their limbs or organs as alien to the rest of their body. BIID is related to xenomelia, "the dysphoric feeling that one or more limbs of one's body do not belong to one's self"
We do not going around and tell people with BIID, "Yes if you feel that you're arm isn't yours so... chop it off." We give them treatment.
But if they feel their genitals are wrong... oh well lets put you on the cover of Vanity Fair.
"My hand is wrong and I want it removed." <-- We give them treatment.
"My arm is wrong and I want it removed." <-- We give them treatment.
"My leg is wrong and I want it removed." <-- We give them treatment.
"My kidney is wrong and I want it removed." <-- We give them treatment.
"My ear is wrong and I want it removed." <-- We give them treatment.
"My foot is wrong and I want it removed." <-- We give them treatment.
"My genitals are wrong and I want them removed." <-- We put them on the cover of Vanity Fair.
(This post was last modified: 10-20-2017 04:03 PM by q5sys.)
This has nothing to do with a bathroom bill. There are dozens of these cases involving straight people every day (where someone molests a child in a private home).
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Transgender Wyoming woman convicted of sexually assaulting 10-year-old girl in bathro
