What would your ideal end of season be for the conference to have the best positive momentum moving into next season?

Mine would be, USF and UCF winning out to the last game, where USF defeats UCF in a close game taking the East.

Memphis winning out to win the West

That would conceivably give us a situation with USF at 11-0 likely in the Top 7-10, UCF and Memphis at 10-1 with rankings in the top 15-20.

These three teams going into conference Championship Week and Memphis beats USF. That way we can control a little piece of the Media discussion with Memphis likely earning the Auto-bid even with a loss to another 10-1 team in UCF who has every right to ask for the same. Also, having three teams with double digit wins and only one loss and likely ranked in the Top 20 would easily give us more leverage in any P6 arguments.

As a Memphis fan, works for me lol.

USF and UCF undefeated until UCF wins that game. Memphis runs table in west and loses to UCF 2nd time in champ game.
Have Ala undefeated and everyone else with one or 2 losses, having to explain how Ucf with 3 top 25 victories shouldn't be one of the 4 playoff schools.

Undefeated UCF playing a one loss Memphis in the conference championship is the best case scenario given that UCF schedule is better than USF's schedule. Not sure if UCF can get there as they still travel to Navy and SMU, while hosting USF. By the way I think UCF is the best team in the league but they have more obstacles to than USF.

I think you couple that with a strong basketball season from Cincinnati, Wichita State, and at least two more tournament teams and there will be no doubt about how the American is a class above the other G5 conferences and more like the Power 5 + Big East.

Add in another UCONN WBB Championship and multiple College World Series contenders.

(10-20-2017 08:13 AM)bearcatlawjd2 Wrote:  Undefeated UCF playing a one loss Memphis in the conference championship is the best case scenario given that UCF schedule is better than USF's schedule. Not sure if UCF can get there as they still travel to Navy and SMU, while hosting USF. By the way I think UCF is the best team in the league but they have more obstacles to than USF.

I think you couple that with a strong basketball season from Cincinnati, Wichita State, and at least two more tournament teams and there will be no doubt about how the American is a class above the other G5 conferences and more like the Power 5 + Big East.

We need at least 2 schools in the Sweet 16 and at least 1 in the Elite 8.

(10-20-2017 08:09 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  USF and UCF undefeated until UCF wins that game. Memphis runs table in west and loses to UCF 2nd time in champ game.
Have Ala undefeated and everyone else with one or 2 losses, having to explain how Ucf with 3 top 25 victories shouldn't be one of the 4 playoff schools.

That's a very good point...I hadn't thought of the potential playoff ramifications. I simply looked at it from the media discussion side of things with a team who defeated the other having a claim to a NYB game, didn't think of the potential for a Playoff game, which UCF may have a claim to if they run the table in emphatic fashion given the teams they've played. It's a shame Khaseem Hill got hurt, I feel like that Maryland win would've looked MUCH better if he was healthy for the season.

(10-20-2017 08:30 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 08:09 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  USF and UCF undefeated until UCF wins that game. Memphis runs table in west and loses to UCF 2nd time in champ game.
Have Ala undefeated and everyone else with one or 2 losses, having to explain how Ucf with 3 top 25 victories shouldn't be one of the 4 playoff schools.

That's a very good point...I hadn't thought of the potential playoff ramifications. I simply looked at it from the media discussion side of things with a team who defeated the other having a claim to a NYB game, didn't think of the potential for a Playoff game, which UCF may have a claim to if they run the table in emphatic fashion given the teams they've played. It's a shame Khaseem Hill got hurt, I feel like that Maryland win would've looked MUCH better if he was healthy for the season.

Yeah I think the best case for the league is to have USF/UCF and Memphis continue winning and have an 11-1 Memphis face the winner of the UCF/USF game for the title. I think UCF given the stronger strength of schedule would be the best best but I think all 3 would have good shots at the NY6 game. I mean if Memphis won and they just beat an undefeated UCF/USF that is a strong win and there would be an 11-1 team and and two 12-1 teams in the league. Pretty impressive 3some.

I say getting 5 into the tourney would so wonders. Rothstein had a good artcle about the 20 game schedule and the power 7 in basketball and whether or not the other leagues are all 1 bid now. He also did a think on tranfers and the American had 5 or 6 guys mentioned out of the 10 I think if I recall it correctly. I honestly think this is the best year for the b-ball league and football is already clicking and getting better. Good times in the American which is turning into something really cool. Hopefully the media dollars show up which can vault it even further.

(10-20-2017 08:47 AM)PT_american Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 08:30 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 08:09 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  USF and UCF undefeated until UCF wins that game. Memphis runs table in west and loses to UCF 2nd time in champ game.
Have Ala undefeated and everyone else with one or 2 losses, having to explain how Ucf with 3 top 25 victories shouldn't be one of the 4 playoff schools.

That's a very good point...I hadn't thought of the potential playoff ramifications. I simply looked at it from the media discussion side of things with a team who defeated the other having a claim to a NYB game, didn't think of the potential for a Playoff game, which UCF may have a claim to if they run the table in emphatic fashion given the teams they've played. It's a shame Khaseem Hill got hurt, I feel like that Maryland win would've looked MUCH better if he was healthy for the season.

Yeah I think the best case for the league is to have USF/UCF and Memphis continue winning and have an 11-1 Memphis face the winner of the UCF/USF game for the title. I think UCF given the stronger strength of schedule would be the best best but I think all 3 would have good shots at the NY6 game. I mean if Memphis won and they just beat an undefeated UCF/USF that is a strong win and there would be an 11-1 team and and two 12-1 teams in the league. Pretty impressive 3some.

I say getting 5 into the tourney would so wonders. Rothstein had a good artcle about the 20 game schedule and the power 7 in basketball and whether or not the other leagues are all 1 bid now. He also did a think on tranfers and the American had 5 or 6 guys mentioned out of the 10 I think if I recall it correctly. I honestly think this is the best year for the b-ball league and football is already clicking and getting better. Good times in the American which is turning into something really cool. Hopefully the media dollars show up which can vault it even further.

I think that's well within the realm of possibility. At the moment, I feel that Cincinnati and Wichita State are locks, UCF is very close but depends on Tacko Fall and BJ Taylor staying healthy, and SMU feels the same way with Milton, then I think one of Houston, UConn, and Temple could easily slip in too.

(10-20-2017 08:09 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  USF and UCF undefeated until UCF wins that game. Memphis runs table in west and loses to UCF 2nd time in champ game.
Have Ala undefeated and everyone else with one or 2 losses, having to explain how Ucf with 3 top 25 victories shouldn't be one of the 4 playoff schools.

It would be fun listening to the pundits torture logic to obtain the outcome they want (i.e., protect the P-5).

It is literally impossible for UCF to go 12-0 in the regular season.

It is literally impossible for USF to go 12-0 in the regular season.

It is literally impossible for Memphis to go 11-1 in the regular season.

(10-20-2017 08:09 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  USF and UCF undefeated until UCF wins that game. Memphis runs table in west and loses to UCF 2nd time in champ game.
Have Ala undefeated and everyone else with one or 2 losses, having to explain how Ucf with 3 top 25 victories shouldn't be one of the 4 playoff schools.

I hate to say it, but you are right. But I am still pulling for Memphis to run the table.

(10-20-2017 09:09 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  It is literally impossible for UCF to go 12-0 in the regular season.

It is literally impossible for USF to go 12-0 in the regular season.

It is literally impossible for Memphis to go 11-1 in the regular season.

Good call, **** hurricanes.

(10-20-2017 08:02 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  What would your ideal end of season be for the conference to have the best positive momentum moving into next season?

Mine would be, USF and UCF winning out to the last game, where USF defeats UCF in a close game taking the East.

Memphis winning out to win the West

That would conceivably give us a situation with USF at 11-0 likely in the Top 7-10, UCF and Memphis at 10-1 with rankings in the top 15-20.

These three teams going into conference Championship Week and Memphis beats USF. That way we can control a little piece of the Media discussion with Memphis likely earning the Auto-bid even with a loss to another 10-1 team in UCF who has every right to ask for the same. Also, having three teams with double digit wins and only one loss and likely ranked in the Top 20 would easily give us more leverage in any P6 arguments.

I like that scenario a lot.

And if we can't win it all, I do like the idea of UCF crashing the CFP. That would be awesome.

Especially 2 years after going 0-fer.

(10-20-2017 09:17 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 09:09 AM)MemphisTigerFreak Wrote:  It is literally impossible for UCF to go 12-0 in the regular season.

It is literally impossible for USF to go 12-0 in the regular season.

It is literally impossible for Memphis to go 11-1 in the regular season.

Good call, **** hurricanes.

Details details. Sorry I completely forgot that but you are right. The rest of my statement stands though

1. Navy tops UCF in a close game tomorrow, and then wins out (which would include a win over Notre Dame) to finish 11-1.
2. Memphis also wins out, finishing 10-1 with a berth in the American title game.
3. After falling to Navy, UCF wins out, finishing 10-1 with a big win over USF in the war on I-4 to make the American title game.
4. USF wins until the UCF game which they lose, finishing 10-1.

That would give us 4 ranked teams and a championship game between two 10-1 teams.

(10-20-2017 08:30 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 08:09 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  USF and UCF undefeated until UCF wins that game. Memphis runs table in west and loses to UCF 2nd time in champ game.
Have Ala undefeated and everyone else with one or 2 losses, having to explain how Ucf with 3 top 25 victories shouldn't be one of the 4 playoff schools.

That's a very good point...I hadn't thought of the potential playoff ramifications. I simply looked at it from the media discussion side of things with a team who defeated the other having a claim to a NYB game, didn't think of the potential for a Playoff game, which UCF may have a claim to if they run the table in emphatic fashion given the teams they've played. It's a shame Khaseem Hill got hurt, I feel like that Maryland win would've looked MUCH better if he was healthy for the season.

Access bowl is the highest ranked conf champ so if Memphis won the conference champ game ucf wouldn't have any chance at access bowl.

(10-20-2017 11:26 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 08:30 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 08:09 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  USF and UCF undefeated until UCF wins that game. Memphis runs table in west and loses to UCF 2nd time in champ game.
Have Ala undefeated and everyone else with one or 2 losses, having to explain how Ucf with 3 top 25 victories shouldn't be one of the 4 playoff schools.

That's a very good point...I hadn't thought of the potential playoff ramifications. I simply looked at it from the media discussion side of things with a team who defeated the other having a claim to a NYB game, didn't think of the potential for a Playoff game, which UCF may have a claim to if they run the table in emphatic fashion given the teams they've played. It's a shame Khaseem Hill got hurt, I feel like that Maryland win would've looked MUCH better if he was healthy for the season.

Access bowl is the highest ranked conf champ so if Memphis won the conference champ game ucf wouldn't have any chance at access bowl.

I'm saying it would provide an argument, since there could be a chance UCF would be ranked higher with a similar record AND UCF pounded Memphis earlier this year.

(10-20-2017 11:37 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 11:26 AM)Knights_of_UCF Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 08:30 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 08:09 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  USF and UCF undefeated until UCF wins that game. Memphis runs table in west and loses to UCF 2nd time in champ game.
Have Ala undefeated and everyone else with one or 2 losses, having to explain how Ucf with 3 top 25 victories shouldn't be one of the 4 playoff schools.

That's a very good point...I hadn't thought of the potential playoff ramifications. I simply looked at it from the media discussion side of things with a team who defeated the other having a claim to a NYB game, didn't think of the potential for a Playoff game, which UCF may have a claim to if they run the table in emphatic fashion given the teams they've played. It's a shame Khaseem Hill got hurt, I feel like that Maryland win would've looked MUCH better if he was healthy for the season.

Access bowl is the highest ranked conf champ so if Memphis won the conference champ game ucf wouldn't have any chance at access bowl.

I'm saying it would provide an argument, since there could be a chance UCF would be ranked higher with a similar record AND UCF pounded Memphis earlier this year.

We need the highest ranked (and undefeated) between USF and UCF to play a one loss Navy team in the CCG. Why Navy? It has the best chance in the west to play with a respectable ranking. Navy needs ND to win all its remaining games except for one—which will be played on November 18th.

(10-20-2017 11:11 AM)Chappy Wrote:  1. Navy tops UCF in a close game tomorrow, and then wins out (which would include a win over Notre Dame) to finish 11-1.
2. Memphis also wins out, finishing 10-1 with a berth in the American title game.
3. After falling to Navy, UCF wins out, finishing 10-1 with a big win over USF in the war on I-4 to make the American title game.
4. USF wins until the UCF game which they lose, finishing 10-1.

That would give us 4 ranked teams and a championship game between two 10-1 teams.

Winner.

Give the man his chiggen.