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“Moving to 20 league games is going to change the entire model,” one Big Ten athletic director told FanRag Sports last week. “They want to wipe out the non-Power 5 schools from getting at-large bids completely. Moving to 20 games makes that more of a realistic possibility.”

“The Big Ten isn’t doing this to get six teams in the NCAA Tournament,” one Big Ten head coach said last week on the condition of anonymity. “They’re doing this to get programs like Penn State and Nebraska into the NCAA Tournament. Going to 20 league games will create more opportunities for teams that aren’t usually in contention. That’s the goal of this.”

Just another reason we need to be doing everything we can to get into the American conference.

They're going to make it essentially impossible to compete and ruin college basketball.

They are trying to ruin it.

Quote:With 20 league games in place, the metrics are set up for teams from the Power 5 conferences and the Big East to eat up the majority of the at-large bid each-and-every March.

After seeing Vandy get in last year with a losing record...well, I guess that was a sign of things to come.

basketball is almost as exclusive as football now. They are doing their best to make a complete split without officially doing it.

20 game seasons have a great chance of having the opposite effect on the P5 conferences. If a marginal Vandy squad has to play 2 more conference games, and loses them instead of winning them does it help Vandy ?

The problem isn't the P5 conference. The problem is CBS and the NCAA. The NCAA is doing the exact same thing with CBS's money that Louis-vile, Auburn, et. al. are doing with the shoe company money. They are taking cash from a source and giving it to their favorites so they will be happy, without regard to fair or equal distribution.

They will go as far as the courts will allow. But that would require the G5 schools to file a suit. This is a little different than football in that the NCAA has it's tournament to determine it's championships in basketball. All schools are paying members of the NCAA and if they want to challenge this as collusion to exclude members from potential benefits that would have legs

& if the little schools walked out on the tournament for 1 season the ratings would tank (if the tourney was able to be held at all) & the little schools would then have the others by the squealer.

(10-17-2017 03:03 PM)biglizard Wrote:  They will go as far as the courts will allow. But that would require the G5 schools to file a suit. This is a little different than football in that the NCAA has it's tournament to determine it's championships in basketball. All schools are paying members of the NCAA and if they want to challenge this as collusion to exclude members from potential benefits that would have legs

We should set up a fund for a lawsuit on behalf of all the non-P5 schools to mandate that all NCAA income is equally distributed back to the conferences and teams therein.

(10-17-2017 02:07 PM)hooverblazer Wrote:  Just another reason we need to be doing everything we can to get into the American conference.

They're going to make it essentially impossible to compete and ruin college basketball.

The american conference is in the same boat. They are not a P5 conference.

True but the American has a higher RPI overall, especially after adding Wichita.

The P5 war on the G5 schools is moving forward in both men's revenue sports. Nick Saban is one coach who is pushing for all P5 schools to play only other P5 schools in the regular season. There is no consideration given to the economic impact on the "lesser level" schools in either sport - only the benefit they see in keeping all the BIG money for themselves. As it is today, fewer than a dozen FB teams have any real chance to play in the National Championship game in FB and we could see the same thing happen in BB if such schools get their way.

this will kill the at large bid only which now is exclusively P5 anyway ....

G5 and smaller schools will not challenge the P5 schools because the are afraid they will leave and take their money with them. This is the same reason FB is in its current state. Damned if they do and damned if they don't.

There is no money without the tournament.

(10-17-2017 06:06 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  There is no money without the tournament.

Thinking more of the 6 figure guarantee games. Ask Texas Southern who is playing 13 guarantee games as their OOC season

Yeah football is another beast for sure.

(10-17-2017 03:07 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  & if the little schools walked out on the tournament for 1 season the ratings would tank (if the tourney was able to be held at all) & the little schools would then have the others by the squealer.

Lol they would never walk away from that much money. Nice fairyland you live in tho

If the P5 plays a preseason tournament, a twenty game conference season, and a conference tournament, there won't be half a dozen pay games left anyhow.

What the P5 schools would prefer to happen is to have the P5 schools publicly indicate that they(G5) are a lower classification so that they(P5) won't have to - perhaps even voluntarily split D1 again. That way they could claim it was their(G5) decision and their(P5) hands are clean. They are forcing the issue, sometimes subtlely sometimes not, through legislation, money, and veiled threats if they don't get their way...

The whole thing seems anti-competitive to me. So, some P5 basketball schools cannot compete against some G5 basketball schools. The solution: GET BETTER. Don't avoid teams and then claim these same teams don't play anyone. The selection committe should see right through this - that is, if they want to. The goal should be to get the best teams in the tourney, not the best P5 teams. But, ESPN, CBS, FOX, etc are all chasing eyeballs and that's their main focus. I also think there should be a rule that no team with a losing record OR losing conference record can get at at-large bid.

The next great move will be to expand P5 football schollies from 85 to 100 and basketball schollies from 12 to 15. That will pull a lot of potential G5 athletes to the P5 schools, mainly to be used as canon fodder. That will be when we'll see if the G5 schools have a pair...