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Declining football participation
https://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-pol...cte-fears/

Series of articles out there written by different people claiming HS football participation is down. Didn't readily find the AP one in Sunday's Atlanta paper that had a map along with stats. Participation is down 3.5% nationally over the last 5 years. Alaska, Hawaii, Montana, Nebraska, Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, Michigan, Maryland, New York, Vermont, Connecticut and North Carolina are down more than 10%. 28 states are down from zero to 9%. Only 9 states are up. Mississippi, Alabama, Oklahoma, Arizona and Utah are up 10% or more. Florida, Georgia, New Mexico and Colorado are up, but less than 10%.

Good news for SEC. Bad news for Big 10.
10-17-2017 11:54 AM
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The Big 10 states are aging. Fewer kids mean fewer football players. That will affect those colleges in those areas in the future.
10-17-2017 12:01 PM
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That's because football has shifted away from being a participation sport like it was in the 70s-90s to an actual planned skill. Football is not different than a parent who pushes their kid to be a Doctor from a young age. You see these extremely athletic parents pass on athletic genes to kids. And then they get started from a very young age with sports.

And the other kids even at a young age know when they are physically inferior to other kids. I was in church one time and I remember one of the ministers kids saying "Dad, I wish I was as fast as those black kids. I don't think I should play anymore" People are starting to see reality. If your dad is 5'7 and your mom is chubby you probably will not breed a football player. And is it worth it to encourage your kid to play and risk the injuries?
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I think we're seeing that specialization at all levels of youth sports and it's getting more and more intense.

I spoke to the basketball coach at the middle school (*not* high school) that my kids will attend in a couple of years and he said that a kid isn't realistically making a middle school basketball team in our district today without multiple years of travel team experience. You can say the same for soccer and baseball. Once again, we're talking about *middle* school (not high school).
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I think there's several reasons.

One would be the obvious safety issues. Now that concussions are a major issue and brain injuries are a major concern, parents are less willing to let their children play games such as football. There are other options available. Another would be the changing attitudes of the younger generations towards sports and participation. I also believe that the "everyone gets a trophy" philosophy has had the effect of dampening people's desire for competition.
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Soccer has been a boom in the Cities in NC. However, HS Football is still king on Friday nights. While I an not surprised we are seeing the CTE from the 70's - 90's. I think the game now understands the importance of the head shots. Remember back in the day when Water was considered a privilege in practice. Forearms to the head and head slaps were legeal. I do think the media has overhyped the CTE and snowflakes are over reacting. Especially when the majority of the brains scanned have been football players that had issues. I think it is a situation that needs monitored but with safety rules being installed, it will be interesting to see what the results in the futre will be.
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(10-17-2017 12:59 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  I think we're seeing that specialization at all levels of youth sports and it's getting more and more intense.

I spoke to the basketball coach at the middle school (*not* high school) that my kids will attend in a couple of years and he said that a kid isn't realistically making a middle school basketball team in our district today without multiple years of travel team experience. You can say the same for soccer and baseball. Once again, we're talking about *middle* school (not high school).

Right. Good athletes, who would have played three sports many years ago, are one-sport athletes today. A 9th grade baseball player who skips fall travel ball to play high school football might fall behind in his baseball coach's pecking order and not be a starter the next spring and summer. If he becomes just a pinch-hitter or late-inning sub on his travel ball team, he has little chance of getting noticed by college baseball recruiters. It has decreased the participation levels in every sport that would have been the all-around athlete's second or third sport.

Also, the emphasis on transitioning kids onto travel teams as early as possible makes even the younger kids' recreational programs more intense, with the side effect that the kids who only want to play recreationally either drop out earlier or never play in an organized recreational program at all, and that further reduces youth participation levels.
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This website can really help clarify the reality of college scholarships.

http://www.scholarshipstats.com/default.htm

On the flip side, if you can find an affordable lower division school, and probably even a fair number of Division One schools, and want to walk onto certain teams for no scholarship, not too many coaches are going to turn you down.
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Fewer parents want to deal with the hassles.
Fewer kids feel the need to participate in sports for social reasons.
10-17-2017 03:03 PM
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(10-17-2017 01:55 PM)Wedge Wrote:  
(10-17-2017 12:59 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  I think we're seeing that specialization at all levels of youth sports and it's getting more and more intense.

I spoke to the basketball coach at the middle school (*not* high school) that my kids will attend in a couple of years and he said that a kid isn't realistically making a middle school basketball team in our district today without multiple years of travel team experience. You can say the same for soccer and baseball. Once again, we're talking about *middle* school (not high school).

Right. Good athletes, who would have played three sports many years ago, are one-sport athletes today. A 9th grade baseball player who skips fall travel ball to play high school football might fall behind in his baseball coach's pecking order and not be a starter the next spring and summer. If he becomes just a pinch-hitter or late-inning sub on his travel ball team, he has little chance of getting noticed by college baseball recruiters. It has decreased the participation levels in every sport that would have been the all-around athlete's second or third sport.

Also, the emphasis on transitioning kids onto travel teams as early as possible makes even the younger kids' recreational programs more intense, with the side effect that the kids who only want to play recreationally either drop out earlier or never play in an organized recreational program at all, and that further reduces youth participation levels.

And this is a huge problem - sports were meant to be recreational at heart.

Competitive is good, but the extreme measures that go into "youth sports" is insane. One of my co-worker's sons wanted to play Soccer at his HS, along with his club, but his club coach wouldn't allow it.
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