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(10-20-2017 09:42 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 09:39 AM)99Monarch Wrote:  I agree that the QB is not the sole issue with the offense. If the OL could block and the receivers could catch, we'd all probably be talking about how SW is the next coming of TH!! Not saying SW is without issues, but it's not totally on his back either.

The OL has improved over the course of the season and haven't played badly since UNC. Our issues are mainly at QB and WR not being able to produce. WR having trouble getting open and when the do, they drop the ball.

We have to get Fulgham, Vaughn, and Harper going on offense. I don't know how to do it, but those guys have to step up.

Again, based on what?

(10-20-2017 10:27 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 10:12 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  I can agree with that. Is it the routes taking too long? Predictable? And when they do they drop too many that at stall drives.

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Most of our WRs are inexperienced and at times are running the wrong routes or running at the wrong depth. OUr more experienced WRs are kinda slow to be honest. I think they are more physical and SW needs to just trust them to throw the ball up because those guys aren't going to create a ton of separation on their own.

I think we need to incorporate more screens to Harper to get some flow going. Set up other stuff off of that and keeps defenses from crowding the box too much.

Scott pulls something different on the opening drive each game, I'm curious to see what he goes with this week. Last week was the 2-3 TE sets that worked well, but we couldn't capitalize.

Interesting line that I've bolded. Bolded... weird word. Anyway. That actually might explain the overthrows. He is trying too hard to throw it high so they can just go up and get it but he's in his own head worried about getting picked... maybe now that he's had a game with 4 picks he can just throw the ball and trust his WR to make the play physically.

That route statement is also something I noticed with my untrained eye. It's either the QB or the WRs but they're def not on the same page with the routes.

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Not so sure I agree that he moves the ball any better completing 4 out of every 10 passes he throws. If you look at the numbers even further as you are a number person, he only completes 37% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of the game. His percentage only goes up in the 4th quarter when he is playing against backups.

I think we moved the ball due to our run game. Against Marshal 10 rushes 2 passes on the first drive for example. The run game can set up BL to be successful through the play action pass.

(10-19-2017 07:24 AM)cmett003 Wrote:  

(10-19-2017 06:28 AM)ODUODUODU Wrote:  

(10-18-2017 05:36 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Good news, the fog horn is going to be back for the WKU game and every game after;
https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...e.amp.html

I hope we get to hear it.... Good chance it remains silent...

Im good with this, its unique and loud. Also probably less annoying to neighbors than the cannon although I dont really care if we annoy the neighbors.

This is awesome, I loved how it was donated to ODU so we can use it how we see fit. The fact that it is portable and its volume is adjustable makes it even better and as a staple for ODU sports

Back to the game...WKU 35 ODU 10. Being realistic about the current state of our offense against their defense. We have been close to WKU.

(10-20-2017 11:52 AM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  [quote='Gilesfan' pid='14695383' dateline='1508510458']

Not so sure I agree that he moves the ball any better completing 4 out of every 10 passes he throws. If you look at the numbers even further as you are a number person, he only completes 37% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of the game. His percentage only goes up in the 4th quarter when he is playing against backups.

I think we moved the ball due to our run game. Against Marshal 10 rushes 2 passes on the first drive for example. The run game can set up BL to be successful through the play action pass.

We can't run with BL behind center because teams aren't honoring the read option or respecting his ability to pass. SW has been all over the place, but he at least forces teams to have to cover downfield and has the threat of running.

(10-20-2017 01:11 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 11:52 AM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  [quote='Gilesfan' pid='14695383' dateline='1508510458']

Not so sure I agree that he moves the ball any better completing 4 out of every 10 passes he throws. If you look at the numbers even further as you are a number person, he only completes 37% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of the game. His percentage only goes up in the 4th quarter when he is playing against backups.

I think we moved the ball due to our run game. Against Marshal 10 rushes 2 passes on the first drive for example. The run game can set up BL to be successful through the play action pass.

We can't run with BL behind center because teams aren't honoring the read option or respecting his ability to pass. SW has been all over the place, but he at least forces teams to have to cover downfield and has the threat of running.

By "teams" you mean FAU. They are the only team that didn't stack the box. Even Marshall did after the 2nd series.

(10-20-2017 01:30 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 01:11 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 11:52 AM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  [quote='Gilesfan' pid='14695383' dateline='1508510458']

Not so sure I agree that he moves the ball any better completing 4 out of every 10 passes he throws. If you look at the numbers even further as you are a number person, he only completes 37% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of the game. His percentage only goes up in the 4th quarter when he is playing against backups.

I think we moved the ball due to our run game. Against Marshal 10 rushes 2 passes on the first drive for example. The run game can set up BL to be successful through the play action pass.

We can't run with BL behind center because teams aren't honoring the read option or respecting his ability to pass. SW has been all over the place, but he at least forces teams to have to cover downfield and has the threat of running.

By "teams" you mean FAU. They are the only team that didn't stack the box. Even Marshall did after the 2nd series.

What are you saying that is different that what I said?

(10-20-2017 01:33 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 01:30 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 01:11 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 11:52 AM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  [quote='Gilesfan' pid='14695383' dateline='1508510458']

Not so sure I agree that he moves the ball any better completing 4 out of every 10 passes he throws. If you look at the numbers even further as you are a number person, he only completes 37% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of the game. His percentage only goes up in the 4th quarter when he is playing against backups.

I think we moved the ball due to our run game. Against Marshal 10 rushes 2 passes on the first drive for example. The run game can set up BL to be successful through the play action pass.

We can't run with BL behind center because teams aren't honoring the read option or respecting his ability to pass. SW has been all over the place, but he at least forces teams to have to cover downfield and has the threat of running.

By "teams" you mean FAU. They are the only team that didn't stack the box. Even Marshall did after the 2nd series.

What are you saying that is different that what I said?

I am saying that we cannot run no matter who is behind center.

(10-20-2017 01:11 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 11:52 AM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  [quote='Gilesfan' pid='14695383' dateline='1508510458']

Not so sure I agree that he moves the ball any better completing 4 out of every 10 passes he throws. If you look at the numbers even further as you are a number person, he only completes 37% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of the game. His percentage only goes up in the 4th quarter when he is playing against backups.

I think we moved the ball due to our run game. Against Marshal 10 rushes 2 passes on the first drive for example. The run game can set up BL to be successful through the play action pass.

We can't run with BL behind center because teams aren't honoring the read option or respecting his ability to pass. SW has been all over the place, but he at least forces teams to have to cover downfield and has the threat of running.

SW averages 2.3 yards per rush and BL averages 4.3 with both having long rushes of just over 20 yards. BL was 4-6 when he got pulled against UNC knowing he was going to have to deal with platooning with Hoy. I'd like to see us give him the opportunity to play without looking over his shoulder to see if he is about to come out. I don't think we have a large enough sample to say teams aren't honoring the read option or his ability to pass.

Weren't we going to run tight end sets coming into the season? To throw all the practices from summer out the window for a different offensive philosophy witht a 17 year old QB seems crazy. Our strength is our running backs and we need to use them. We need to use our RB's like NC State uses Hines and Samuels. To have SW keep throwing the ball is the definition of insanity.

Want some easy reading to get you ready for the game tonight? I just posted an article I did with WKU beat writer, Joe londergan on https://satchelaziffer.wixsite.com/monarchmadness! It's a great outlook, we can win this if our D-Line can penetrate and make White throw the ball fast!

(10-20-2017 02:15 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 01:11 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 11:52 AM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  [quote='Gilesfan' pid='14695383' dateline='1508510458']

Not so sure I agree that he moves the ball any better completing 4 out of every 10 passes he throws. If you look at the numbers even further as you are a number person, he only completes 37% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of the game. His percentage only goes up in the 4th quarter when he is playing against backups.

I think we moved the ball due to our run game. Against Marshal 10 rushes 2 passes on the first drive for example. The run game can set up BL to be successful through the play action pass.

We can't run with BL behind center because teams aren't honoring the read option or respecting his ability to pass. SW has been all over the place, but he at least forces teams to have to cover downfield and has the threat of running.

SW averages 2.3 yards per rush and BL averages 4.3 with both having long rushes of just over 20 yards. BL was 4-6 when he got pulled against UNC knowing he was going to have to deal with platooning with Hoy. I'd like to see us give him the opportunity to play without looking over his shoulder to see if he is about to come out. I don't think we have a large enough sample to say teams aren't honoring the read option or his ability to pass.

Weren't we going to run tight end sets coming into the season? To throw all the practices from summer out the window for a different offensive philosophy witht a 17 year old QB seems crazy. Our strength is our running backs and we need to use them. We need to use our RB's like NC State uses Hines and Samuels. To have SW keep throwing the ball is the definition of insanity.

What do you think we did vs. Marshall?

(10-20-2017 02:25 PM)LeftUprightAndIn Wrote:  Want some easy reading to get you ready for the game tonight? I just posted an article I did with WKU beat writer, Joe londergan on https://satchelaziffer.wixsite.com/monarchmadness! It's a great outlook, we can win this if our D-Line can penetrate and make White throw the ball fast!

https://satchelaziffer.wixsite.com/monarchmadness

(10-20-2017 02:33 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 02:15 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 01:11 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 11:52 AM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  [quote='Gilesfan' pid='14695383' dateline='1508510458']

Not so sure I agree that he moves the ball any better completing 4 out of every 10 passes he throws. If you look at the numbers even further as you are a number person, he only completes 37% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of the game. His percentage only goes up in the 4th quarter when he is playing against backups.

I think we moved the ball due to our run game. Against Marshal 10 rushes 2 passes on the first drive for example. The run game can set up BL to be successful through the play action pass.

We can't run with BL behind center because teams aren't honoring the read option or respecting his ability to pass. SW has been all over the place, but he at least forces teams to have to cover downfield and has the threat of running.

SW averages 2.3 yards per rush and BL averages 4.3 with both having long rushes of just over 20 yards. BL was 4-6 when he got pulled against UNC knowing he was going to have to deal with platooning with Hoy. I'd like to see us give him the opportunity to play without looking over his shoulder to see if he is about to come out. I don't think we have a large enough sample to say teams aren't honoring the read option or his ability to pass.

Weren't we going to run tight end sets coming into the season? To throw all the practices from summer out the window for a different offensive philosophy witht a 17 year old QB seems crazy. Our strength is our running backs and we need to use them. We need to use our RB's like NC State uses Hines and Samuels. To have SW keep throwing the ball is the definition of insanity.

What do you think we did vs. Marshall?

For the first 2 series'. Then Marshall adjusted

(10-20-2017 02:33 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 02:15 PM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 01:11 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(10-20-2017 11:52 AM)SettleDownFolks Wrote:  [quote='Gilesfan' pid='14695383' dateline='1508510458']

Not so sure I agree that he moves the ball any better completing 4 out of every 10 passes he throws. If you look at the numbers even further as you are a number person, he only completes 37% of his passes in the first 3 quarters of the game. His percentage only goes up in the 4th quarter when he is playing against backups.

I think we moved the ball due to our run game. Against Marshal 10 rushes 2 passes on the first drive for example. The run game can set up BL to be successful through the play action pass.

We can't run with BL behind center because teams aren't honoring the read option or respecting his ability to pass. SW has been all over the place, but he at least forces teams to have to cover downfield and has the threat of running.

SW averages 2.3 yards per rush and BL averages 4.3 with both having long rushes of just over 20 yards. BL was 4-6 when he got pulled against UNC knowing he was going to have to deal with platooning with Hoy. I'd like to see us give him the opportunity to play without looking over his shoulder to see if he is about to come out. I don't think we have a large enough sample to say teams aren't honoring the read option or his ability to pass.

Weren't we going to run tight end sets coming into the season? To throw all the practices from summer out the window for a different offensive philosophy witht a 17 year old QB seems crazy. Our strength is our running backs and we need to use them. We need to use our RB's like NC State uses Hines and Samuels. To have SW keep throwing the ball is the definition of insanity.

What do you think we did vs. Marshall?

You can look it up can't you? It was a 7-3 game at half and then 1st possession 2nd half 2 passes 1 run, next possession 2 passes 1 run, next possession 2 runs 1 pass, next possession 3 passes, next possession 3 passes. Notice they were all 3 and outs?

20in until kickoff this place is dead.

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Ugh first home game I can't make and it's on CBS sports. Lame.

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what channel is this game on verizon fios?

Like 590something maybe?

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