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RE: Game 7- James Madison
This game reminds me of UNCW in the CAA playoffs last year. Sometimes the other team is just better. We needed to be pretty close to perfect to have a chance in this game (like most of JMU's opponents this year) and we weren't. I give the coaches credit for switching QBs. It didn't work and it doesn't fit a long term development plan, but we're not playing a video game here. The coaches saw that we weren't moving the ball and tried to do something about it. That's their job. I have a hard time thinking Shon's confidence will be irreparably broken by getting pulled in a game where we couldn't get anything going against the #1 team.
10-24-2017 10:05 AM
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Barta and Wimmer left the game with injuries. How are they now?
10-24-2017 05:25 PM
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(10-24-2017 05:25 PM)Zorch Wrote:  Barta and Wimmer left the game with injuries. How are they now?

They both looked like they were cramping. At least that’s what I keep telling myself.
10-24-2017 09:03 PM
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From the JMU board:

The tribe will continue to be mediocre at best as long as laycock is still there. It’s to our benefit that he’s allowed to retire when he wants and not “retire” very suddenly.
10-25-2017 09:06 AM
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(10-25-2017 09:06 AM)Herm61 Wrote:  From the JMU board:

The tribe will continue to be mediocre at best as long as laycock is still there. It’s to our benefit that he’s allowed to retire when he wants and not “retire” very suddenly.

Well most JMU posters are morons
10-25-2017 09:20 AM
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(10-25-2017 09:06 AM)Herm61 Wrote:  From the JMU board:

The tribe will continue to be mediocre at best as long as laycock is still there. It’s to our benefit that he’s allowed to retire when he wants and not “retire” very suddenly.
Similar posts in the past on the UR board, despite the fact that we beat JMU two years ago and UR last year. Think they revisit that comment in a year when Houston has moved on and the tide has turned in the normal ebb and flow. Otherwise, hats off to a very good JMU team the last two years.

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10-25-2017 09:23 AM
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Game 7- James Madison
I don't know why anyone gives a **** what JMU or UR fans think of our coach. It honestly stumps me.

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10-25-2017 10:06 AM
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(10-25-2017 10:06 AM)Tribal Wrote:  I don't know why anyone gives a **** what JMU or UR fans think of our coach. It honestly stumps me.

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I would agree. Might as well let the JMU and UR message boards make the next hire when the time comes. The reality is that in the current times coaches like Frank Beamer, George Welsh, Coach Laycock and countless successful college basketball coaches would never have had the careers they had in the current climate. People have very short memories and no willingness to look at a patient approach on anything. The wolves are restless because the offense is terrible and unwatchable this season. I do not think we have been overmatched in general against UR or JMU on a consistent basis in the last 10 years. We were definitely overmatched when our offense faced JMU's defense on Saturday. But less than 2 seasons ago this week, we took down JMU in an exciting contest scoring 44 points on our way to a share of the conference title. That season, we beat 3 of the teams that had defeated the season before(losing only to the hated Spiders twice).
JMU is very good and has been the last 3 years. We were equally good with them in 2015. I would not classify them as significant better than us over the last 10 years. But, they do have 2 national titles and we have none. Richmond has won more than we have recently and we did have the painful ("win and in") losses 3 straight years against them. But, there are ebbs and flows with that series as well. Richmond got a national title with London and then had success under Rocco. JMU had success with Withers and then more with Houston(who seems to be an excellent coach). So, some believe a switch would lead to greater success. I would love to be in the stands when Coach Laycock leads our team to Frisco, or when Coach Shaver leads the Tribe into the NCAA tournament. But, I am proud of the way they have represented the Tribe over so many years and the school as a whole. I might be in the minority at times on that, but I feel strongly about it.

If the offense has as much improvement between now and next season and the defense did from last year to now(go back and look at the posts from last season on the run defense), we will have a real shot at the top of the standings.(with a kicker and good special teams as well).
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10-25-2017 05:23 PM
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Game 7- James Madison
You have to pick what matters most. Just 10 months ago, JMU's current coach suspended 7 players on the eve of their NC. At least one of those players had already been dismissed from an FBS program.

Win at all cost or maintain our dignity?

We've had our bad apples for sure but it's rare and mostly isolated to a single player. I'm glad JL doesn't lay the welcome mat for any and all FBS players. I'm glad he upholds W&M standards on and off the field.

JMU is a fine school. I know a lot of Dukes grads who are good people. But, like Towson and SHSU, they place a special value on athletics...I'll just leave it at that.

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(10-25-2017 06:55 PM)Tribal Wrote:  You have to pick what matters most. Just 10 months ago, JMU's current coach suspended 7 players on the eve of their NC. At least one of those players had already been dismissed from an FBS program.

Win at all cost or maintain our dignity?

We've had our bad apples for sure but it's rare and mostly isolated to a single player. I'm glad JL doesn't lay the welcome mat for any and all FBS players. I'm glad he upholds W&M standards on and off the field.

JMU is a fine school. I know a lot of Dukes grads who are good people. But, like Towson and SHSU, they place a special value on athletics...I'll just leave it at that.

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Don't think it's quite as simple as that. Mrs. Ribe consults on psych-academic matters for the JMU athletic department. She raves--and I mean literally raves--about the academic support that JMU provides its athletes.

There's no doubt that JMU's emphasis is somewhat different from ours, and I'm pretty comfortable with the decisions we've made. But it's also plain that JMU works hard to turn out quality people with a quality education.

My absolute worst day as a Tribe fan was when we lost the 1983 ECAC-South title game to JMU. I was cussing JMU's admissions standards and getting all holier-than-thou about how we do things the "right way." A Tribe athlete was riding back to Williamsburg with (the future) Mrs. Ribe and me, and she scolded me. She said, "We make the decisions that are right for us, and they make the decisions that are right for them, but when the game starts none of that matters. You go on the floor and the better team wins. No excuses." That has stuck with me to this day.

So when they whoop us, I say we give them their due, and then we get back to work making ourselves better.
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10-25-2017 09:33 PM
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(10-25-2017 06:55 PM)Tribal Wrote:  You have to pick what matters most. Just 10 months ago, JMU's current coach suspended 7 players on the eve of their NC. At least one of those players had already been dismissed from an FBS program.

Win at all cost or maintain our dignity?

We've had our bad apples for sure but it's rare and mostly isolated to a single player. I'm glad JL doesn't lay the welcome mat for any and all FBS players. I'm glad he upholds W&M standards on and off the field.

JMU is a fine school. I know a lot of Dukes grads who are good people. But, like Towson and SHSU, they place a special value on athletics...I'll just leave it at that.

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They do their thing. Fine by me. I’d rather go about it without taking a bunch of fbs transfers. Not because they all (or even most) have become former fbs players for bad reasons. I know for a fact that the Marshall kid from GT is a great kid. My reasoning is I’d rather recruit, then develop and take care of our own players than recruit juniors over them. If I were a recruited athlete I wouldn’t believe a word their coaches said about depth charts or plans they have for me or my cohort while, at the same time, I know they are back filling with transfers.
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