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A&M has money but do they have enough to entice Franklin away from PSU?

He's pushed Penn State to the top of the B1G but Alabama is would be a bigger obstacle to overcome.

I bet this is news to Sumlin. Who's team is currently 4-2 and stands a solid chance to beat Florida today.

Doubt Franklin would leave Penn State unless he has strong ties down there somewhere.

Your asking if f a&m has enough money for Franklin ?, hmmmmm, let me think about this...

(10-14-2017 09:02 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I bet this is news to Sumlin. Who's team is currently 4-2 and stands a solid chance to beat Florida today.

4-2 with the Alabama loss (by a TD) out of the way. What a way to treat a coach...

Franklin will stay at Penn St. Saban factor.

I hope they understand that James Franklin is actually from Pennsylvania....

(10-14-2017 09:43 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 09:02 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I bet this is news to Sumlin. Who's team is currently 4-2 and stands a solid chance to beat Florida today.

4-2 with the Alabama loss (by a TD) out of the way. What a way to treat a coach...

Franklin will stay at Penn St. Saban factor.

He should bolt the next chances he gets.

(10-14-2017 09:57 AM)Maize Wrote:  I hope they understand that James Franklin is actually from Pennsylvania....

Exactly. It's his dream job. Penn State can match anything A&M offers, the question is, why would Franklin leave Happy Valley for College Station? It's not even a lateral move. It's a demotion.

(10-14-2017 08:37 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  Link

A&M has money but do they have enough to entice Franklin away from PSU?

He's pushed Penn State to the top of the B1G but Alabama is would be a bigger obstacle to overcome.

Just say no. Franklin is a PA guy who played college football in PA and who is staying home at Penn State. Yes he coached Vandy in the SEC but took the step up in talent, pay, and ability to win a conference title and play in the Rose Bowl on the way to the CFP. He is in a good place right now right where he is at. Don't see him leaving Penn State unless he is forced out after a couple of bad seasons. Penn State will match anything A&M throws up to keep him. Besides if Sumlin wins out and wins a bowl game, he gets another year on the hot seat.

I had no idea that Texas A&M was a destination job over a Blue Blood football program like Penn State.

(10-14-2017 08:37 AM)Wolfman Wrote:  Link

A&M has money but do they have enough to entice Franklin away from PSU?

He's pushed Penn State to the top of the B1G but Alabama is would be a bigger obstacle to overcome.

The word down here by those in the know is that this story was released by Franklin's agent, most likely to be able to demand a raise at Penn State. Officials at A&M deny that they are pursuing him.

Given the nature of sports agents, this is one of the oldest and most irritating tricks of the trade.

So, I'd say this is a contrived story the timing of which was selected because of Penn State's positioning in the season. Their toughest games are coming up and donors generally feel the need to act if a great season looks to be distracted. And since agents get a % of the raise they concoct junk like this to line not only the Coach's pocket but their own as well.

(10-14-2017 09:43 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 09:02 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I bet this is news to Sumlin. Who's team is currently 4-2 and stands a solid chance to beat Florida today.

4-2 with the Alabama loss (by a TD) out of the way. What a way to treat a coach...

SEC SEC SEC

This is the conference in which a university president, athletic director, and at least two members of the school's board of trustees flew to another city during the football season to take a secret meeting with another team's head coach about replacing a head coach who hadn't been fired.

Seems that if you're a head football coach in the SEC, you're probably making $5 million a year, but somebody is always holding a knife only a few inches behind your back.

(10-14-2017 11:47 AM)Wedge Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 09:43 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 09:02 AM)hawghiggs Wrote:  I bet this is news to Sumlin. Who's team is currently 4-2 and stands a solid chance to beat Florida today.

4-2 with the Alabama loss (by a TD) out of the way. What a way to treat a coach...

SEC SEC SEC

This is the conference in which a university president, athletic director, and at least two members of the school's board of trustees flew to another city during the football season to take a secret meeting with another team's head coach about replacing a head coach who hadn't been fired.

Seems that if you're a head football coach in the SEC, you're probably making $5 million a year, but somebody is always holding a knife only a few inches behind your back.

It Just Means More!

(10-14-2017 11:33 AM)Sparty84 Wrote:  I had no idea that Texas A&M was a destination job over a Blue Blood football program like Penn State.

They raped underprivileged boys for years. I wouldn't go around bragging about their so called elitism.

(10-14-2017 04:02 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 11:33 AM)Sparty84 Wrote:  I had no idea that Texas A&M was a destination job over a Blue Blood football program like Penn State.

They raped underprivileged boys for years. I wouldn't go around bragging about their so called elitism.

What people truly forget is that Penn State started being considered upper tier under Paterno. They could not be a destination school for coaches because they only had 1 in their rise to any kind of notoriety. It's exactly like Florida State. They were nothing until Bobby Bowden and really Jimbo, like Franklin, is the first coach since the founder to have any success. So to call either a destination job is premature. When there have been a long line of coaches who have succeeded and retired from the positions then they will be able to claim to be a destination job, which implies that when one goes there they don't leave unless they fail. Penn State in the mid 60's was what young guys can identify with as the Boise State of yesteryear.

(10-14-2017 09:32 AM)JHS55 Wrote:  Your asking if f a&m has enough money for Franklin ?, hmmmmm, let me think about this...

No. I said they had money. Franklin makes $8.9 million now. If you figure it takes $3-4 million to get him to move. That puts him at $13 million. PSU may go another $3-4 million. That puts him at $17 million. I question whether A&M could/would go there.

(10-14-2017 04:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 04:02 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 11:33 AM)Sparty84 Wrote:  I had no idea that Texas A&M was a destination job over a Blue Blood football program like Penn State.

They raped underprivileged boys for years. I wouldn't go around bragging about their so called elitism.

What people truly forget is that Penn State started being considered upper tier under Paterno. They could not be a destination school for coaches because they only had 1 in their rise to any kind of notoriety. It's exactly like Florida State. They were nothing until Bobby Bowden and really Jimbo, like Franklin, is the first coach since the founder to have any success. So to call either a destination job is premature. When there have been a long line of coaches who have succeeded and retired from the positions then they will be able to claim to be a destination job, which implies that when one goes there they don't leave unless they fail. Penn State in the mid 60's was what young guys can identify with as the Boise State of yesteryear.

good input

(10-14-2017 04:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 04:02 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 11:33 AM)Sparty84 Wrote:  I had no idea that Texas A&M was a destination job over a Blue Blood football program like Penn State.

They raped underprivileged boys for years. I wouldn't go around bragging about their so called elitism.

What people truly forget is that Penn State started being considered upper tier under Paterno. They could not be a destination school for coaches because they only had 1 in their rise to any kind of notoriety. It's exactly like Florida State. They were nothing until Bobby Bowden and really Jimbo, like Franklin, is the first coach since the founder to have any success. So to call either a destination job is premature. When there have been a long line of coaches who have succeeded and retired from the positions then they will be able to claim to be a destination job, which implies that when one goes there they don't leave unless they fail. Penn State in the mid 60's was what young guys can identify with as the Boise State of yesteryear.

JR. I was thinking about your line of thought here. I agree that one coach does not make a dynasty. But I do think that one coach can make a program elite and therefore a destination job based on the power and influence of the program he built.

I am just curious using your "long line of coaches" thinking what program has a destination job? I would think that there are very few if any programs that can claim that title. Maybe Ohio State? Notre Dame??

(10-15-2017 08:27 AM)Sparty84 Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 04:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 04:02 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 11:33 AM)Sparty84 Wrote:  I had no idea that Texas A&M was a destination job over a Blue Blood football program like Penn State.

They raped underprivileged boys for years. I wouldn't go around bragging about their so called elitism.

What people truly forget is that Penn State started being considered upper tier under Paterno. They could not be a destination school for coaches because they only had 1 in their rise to any kind of notoriety. It's exactly like Florida State. They were nothing until Bobby Bowden and really Jimbo, like Franklin, is the first coach since the founder to have any success. So to call either a destination job is premature. When there have been a long line of coaches who have succeeded and retired from the positions then they will be able to claim to be a destination job, which implies that when one goes there they don't leave unless they fail. Penn State in the mid 60's was what young guys can identify with as the Boise State of yesteryear.

JR. I was thinking about your line of thought here. I agree that one coach does not make a dynasty. But I do think that one coach can make a program elite and therefore a destination job based on the power and influence of the program he built.

I am just curious using your "long line of coaches" thinking what program has a destination job? I would think that there are very few if any programs that can claim that title. Maybe Ohio State? Notre Dame??

Well, first a modern era caveat, they have to pay very well. But Southern California, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State, Texas, Oklahoma, and in the past U.C.L.A. were all destination jobs. The coaches that succeeded at those locations usually retired out of the job.

Next rung positions would be Penn State, Florida State, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Michigan State, Washington, L.S.U., Iowa, Clemson and a few others.

Virginia Tech is one I left out that could be in this camp or in the same classification as Penn State and Florida State, thanks of course to Beamer.

To state that a job is a destination job or not only one question needs to be asked. "Would a coach at this school leave to take a job at Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, Notre Dame, Southern Cal, Texas, or Oklahoma? If the answer is yes, then it is not a destination school.

Bobby Bowden and Joe Paterno and Frank Beamer would not leave. Would Fisher, Franklin, or Fuente leave for one of those schools mentioned above? I think all three would.

(10-14-2017 04:16 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 04:02 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(10-14-2017 11:33 AM)Sparty84 Wrote:  I had no idea that Texas A&M was a destination job over a Blue Blood football program like Penn State.

They raped underprivileged boys for years. I wouldn't go around bragging about their so called elitism.

What people truly forget is that Penn State started being considered upper tier under Paterno. They could not be a destination school for coaches because they only had 1 in their rise to any kind of notoriety. It's exactly like Florida State. They were nothing until Bobby Bowden and really Jimbo, like Franklin, is the first coach since the founder to have any success. So to call either a destination job is premature. When there have been a long line of coaches who have succeeded and retired from the positions then they will be able to claim to be a destination job, which implies that when one goes there they don't leave unless they fail. Penn State in the mid 60's was what young guys can identify with as the Boise State of yesteryear.

Yeah but if the coach never leaves there is never to opportunity to prove its a destination school by hiring a new coach.