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Restaurant manager accused of enslaving black cook for 5 years
Hard to believe a restaurant manager had that much power over the guy, but we'll see. Keep us posted, interesting story.

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(10-13-2017 06:08 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Hard to believe a restaurant manager had that much power over the guy, but we'll see. Keep us posted, interesting story.

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that's muh take....

'course the accused does have that three name redneck thingy working against him.....

in best redneck voice, "hi, I'm bobby paul edwards and I own me some slaves"

this one is quite strange to yield an indictment in today's world....sounds like some serious uneducated feelings got hurt and a young fed deputy dog is looking to move up in the hierarchy.....
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I call fabrics.
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Well there are illegal immigrants who have been all but held in slavery in the US, women, especially illegal immigrants, forced to be prostitutes. There are some pretty nasty people out there.
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dude must have been a hell of a good cook!
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Real story. Appears that the cook was mentally disabled. He lived in a roach infested apartment behind the restaurant, working 18 hour days for $1000/quarter and getting regular beatings. Awful!
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(10-14-2017 12:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Real story. Appears that the cook was mentally disabled. He lived in a roach infested apartment behind the restaurant, working 18 hour days for $1000/quarter and getting regular beatings. Awful!

So it was roach-infested, huh....
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(10-14-2017 12:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Real story. Appears that the cook was mentally disabled. He lived in a roach infested apartment behind the restaurant, working 18 hour days for $1000/quarter and getting regular beatings. Awful!

Sounds like he was bullied and assaulted..not enslaved. Report says he was "intellectually disabled". I guess he was just not that bright? WTF does this mean? In any rate the owner is horrible person and I hope the gets punished appropriately. Ive been by that place many times on my way to MB. Never had the inclination to eat there..and now never will.
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(10-14-2017 12:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Real story. Appears that the cook was mentally disabled. He lived in a roach infested apartment behind the restaurant, working 18 hour days for $1000/quarter and getting regular beatings. Awful!

So this has nothing to do with him being Black. Its mistreatment of the disabled.
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(10-14-2017 11:31 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 12:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Real story. Appears that the cook was mentally disabled. He lived in a roach infested apartment behind the restaurant, working 18 hour days for $1000/quarter and getting regular beatings. Awful!

So this has nothing to do with him being Black. Its mistreatment of the disabled.

Im not sure being "intellectually disabled" means anything. Sounds like some psychobabble IMO. Ive worked with a ton of people I could have called that. Instead I just call them dummies.
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(10-14-2017 11:28 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 12:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Real story. Appears that the cook was mentally disabled. He lived in a roach infested apartment behind the restaurant, working 18 hour days for $1000/quarter and getting regular beatings. Awful!

Sounds like he was bullied and assaulted..not enslaved. Report says he was "intellectually disabled". I guess he was just not that bright? WTF does this mean? In any rate the owner is horrible person and I hope the gets punished appropriately. Ive been by that place many times on my way to MB. Never had the inclination to eat there..and now never will.

If you beat somebody, make them work 18 hours days and pay them $1000/quarter that's pretty much enslavement.
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(10-14-2017 11:31 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 12:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Real story. Appears that the cook was mentally disabled. He lived in a roach infested apartment behind the restaurant, working 18 hour days for $1000/quarter and getting regular beatings. Awful!

So this has nothing to do with him being Black. Its mistreatment of the disabled.

I believe that he is still black.
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(10-14-2017 11:39 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 11:28 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 12:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Real story. Appears that the cook was mentally disabled. He lived in a roach infested apartment behind the restaurant, working 18 hour days for $1000/quarter and getting regular beatings. Awful!

Sounds like he was bullied and assaulted..not enslaved. Report says he was "intellectually disabled". I guess he was just not that bright? WTF does this mean? In any rate the owner is horrible person and I hope the gets punished appropriately. Ive been by that place many times on my way to MB. Never had the inclination to eat there..and now never will.

If you beat somebody, make them work 18 hours days and pay them $1000/quarter that's pretty much enslavement.

What is described is cruel and inhumane and the abuser should be punished severely, however it's only enslavement if the cook was held against his will and not allowed to leave.
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(10-14-2017 12:00 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 11:39 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 11:28 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 12:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Real story. Appears that the cook was mentally disabled. He lived in a roach infested apartment behind the restaurant, working 18 hour days for $1000/quarter and getting regular beatings. Awful!

Sounds like he was bullied and assaulted..not enslaved. Report says he was "intellectually disabled". I guess he was just not that bright? WTF does this mean? In any rate the owner is horrible person and I hope the gets punished appropriately. Ive been by that place many times on my way to MB. Never had the inclination to eat there..and now never will.

If you beat somebody, make them work 18 hours days and pay them $1000/quarter that's pretty much enslavement.

What is described is cruel and inhumane and the abuser should be punished severely, however it's only enslavement if the cook was held against his will and not allowed to leave.

Yes in the article, physical restraint was involved.
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(10-14-2017 12:00 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 11:39 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 11:28 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 12:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Real story. Appears that the cook was mentally disabled. He lived in a roach infested apartment behind the restaurant, working 18 hour days for $1000/quarter and getting regular beatings. Awful!

Sounds like he was bullied and assaulted..not enslaved. Report says he was "intellectually disabled". I guess he was just not that bright? WTF does this mean? In any rate the owner is horrible person and I hope the gets punished appropriately. Ive been by that place many times on my way to MB. Never had the inclination to eat there..and now never will.

If you beat somebody, make them work 18 hours days and pay them $1000/quarter that's pretty much enslavement.

What is described is cruel and inhumane and the abuser should be punished severely, however it's only enslavement if the cook was held against his will and not allowed to leave.

That's not necessarily true. Admittedly, they are using slavery pretty loosely, but peonage and forced labor are covered in the same law. It doesn't mean you're not allowed to leave by physically being locked up or something.

Quote:§1589. Forced labor
(a) Whoever knowingly provides or obtains the labor or services of a person by any one of, or by any combination of, the following means—
(1) by means of force, threats of force, physical restraint, or threats of physical restraint to that person or another person;
(2) by means of serious harm or threats of serious harm to that person or another person;
(3) by means of the abuse or threatened abuse of law or legal process; or
(4) by means of any scheme, plan, or pattern intended to cause the person to believe that, if that person did not perform such labor or services, that person or another person would suffer serious harm or physical restraint,
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(10-14-2017 02:12 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 12:00 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 11:39 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 11:28 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(10-14-2017 12:48 AM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  Real story. Appears that the cook was mentally disabled. He lived in a roach infested apartment behind the restaurant, working 18 hour days for $1000/quarter and getting regular beatings. Awful!

Sounds like he was bullied and assaulted..not enslaved. Report says he was "intellectually disabled". I guess he was just not that bright? WTF does this mean? In any rate the owner is horrible person and I hope the gets punished appropriately. Ive been by that place many times on my way to MB. Never had the inclination to eat there..and now never will.

If you beat somebody, make them work 18 hours days and pay them $1000/quarter that's pretty much enslavement.

What is described is cruel and inhumane and the abuser should be punished severely, however it's only enslavement if the cook was held against his will and not allowed to leave.

That's not necessarily true. Admittedly, they are using slavery pretty loosely, but peonage and forced labor are covered in the same law. It doesn't mean you're not allowed to leave by physically being locked up or something.

Quote:§1589. Forced labor
(a) Whoever knowingly provides or obtains the labor or services of a person by any one of, or by any combination of, the following means—
(1) by means of force, threats of force, physical restraint, or threats of physical restraint to that person or another person;
(2) by means of serious harm or threats of serious harm to that person or another person;
(3) by means of the abuse or threatened abuse of law or legal process; or
(4) by means of any scheme, plan, or pattern intended to cause the person to believe that, if that person did not perform such labor or services, that person or another person would suffer serious harm or physical restraint,

Like a lot of words...What constitutes slavery has been expanded from its initial definition. If the owner did what is alleged?... I have no problem with it being called Slavery and him being punished for it. It is however not what we generally think of when slavery is mentioned. With the addition of actual violence, this seems to be a similar thing that happened to blacks after emancipation. Many were given housing by employers... paid very little and "controlled" through intimidation, economic and class discrimination during the Jim Crow era. It was a form of "soft" slavery.
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