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RE: Progressives have officially killed Boy Scouts
(10-11-2017 02:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 02:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Trail Life is the new boy scouts. Democrats destroyed boy scouts years ago.

The "Culture War" has been going on for nearly 40 years. I fought for what I thought were American values and what was morally right for much of my working life. What I found to be the main problem was that most Americans were so convinced of the correctness of their position that they did nothing to stop the fringe groups when they first started pushing agendas.

Now when headline after headline defies all reason and logic people are wringing their hands. All I want to know is where the hell were you 40 years ago? Apathy lost this fight and it was assisted by those too busy to take the time to stand up and be counted.

The "Culture War" wasn't won by the plaintiffs. It was forfeited by those who claim most to be moral. And they were helped in large part by churches that wanted no part of getting embroiled in controversial issues which might cost them a buck.

Shame on us! Shame on all of us!

JR, the problem is that Progressives infiltrate all organizations. I could start a conservative non profit today, and within 5 years the progs will get in there somehow.
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"Much of the social history of the Western world over the past three decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good.'

- Thomas Sowell
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(10-11-2017 02:40 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Girl Scouts will sue. There will be less girls selling cookies.

Just merge them together into "The Scouts" and be done with it.
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(10-11-2017 03:09 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 02:40 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Girl Scouts will sue. There will be less girls selling cookies.

Just merge them together into "The Scouts" and be done with it.

salary reduction due to attrition????......I don't think so.....

there's more involved than face value tactics.....
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(10-11-2017 03:09 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 02:40 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Girl Scouts will sue. There will be less girls selling cookies.

Just merge them together into "The Scouts" and be done with it.

then have more abortions due to kids not keeping their pants on? yeah, I dont think so.
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(10-11-2017 02:40 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Girl Scouts will sue. There will be less girls selling cookies.

those "cookies" will get stolen......

shite like this disgusts me.....
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Another reason my son won't be in the Boy Scouts.
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(10-11-2017 03:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 02:19 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 02:06 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Trail Life is the new boy scouts. Democrats destroyed boy scouts years ago.

The "Culture War" has been going on for nearly 40 years. I fought for what I thought were American values and what was morally right for much of my working life. What I found to be the main problem was that most Americans were so convinced of the correctness of their position that they did nothing to stop the fringe groups when they first started pushing agendas.

Now when headline after headline defies all reason and logic people are wringing their hands. All I want to know is where the hell were you 40 years ago? Apathy lost this fight and it was assisted by those too busy to take the time to stand up and be counted.

The "Culture War" wasn't won by the plaintiffs. It was forfeited by those who claim most to be moral. And they were helped in large part by churches that wanted no part of getting embroiled in controversial issues which might cost them a buck.

Shame on us! Shame on all of us!

JR, the problem is that Progressives infiltrate all organizations. I could start a conservative non profit today, and within 5 years the progs will get in there somehow.

Nope, I lived it. The problem was total apathy when it came to putting resources into legal fights. Nobody wanted to put their money where their mouth was. In a Republic, and that is what we are, if you aren't involved in the legal process and the legislative process, if you don't display the political power of your side then you are toast.

To give the progressives some kudos, they put the time and sweat into their push. And initially they had some very valid issues to push. The problem was for those with more traditional views is that while we understood their initial agenda with equal pay for equal work, proper representation, civil rights, and labor laws, we went to sleep at the wheel over the truly fringe issues. That silence to politicians may have well have been consent. When organizations that were expected to voice opposition to some of the more fringe elements remained silent, in part over LBJ's Senatorial legislation (early to mid 50's) relating to non profit tax exempt status as it pertains to expressing a political agenda, there was no structure around which to build opposition. Face it. If your church or synagogue won't stand with you then you appear to be only a disorganized and disgruntled rabble.

I meant what I said. It was silence from all quarters except for the evangelical right which as always took their stances so far right, mostly to garner donations, that they lost the support of the secular people who probably would have sided with them if their opposition had remained focused on the particular issue at hand.

The same lack of focus still plagues the Right today. They always tend to turn a single issue into a soapbox for blasting everything they don't like. You don't win political battles that way.

But even if they had kept a focus and had rallied the center, particularly the secular center, it would have been tough to maintain any kind of constant effort to keep the struggle up long enough to win. The apathy in this country is just too pervasive to sustain any time consuming struggle. So the Left wins by being relentless.

Where the left is vulnerable is precisely now. They have gotten so outrageous in their claims and in what they have forced upon the mainstream public that it wouldn't take as much now to start reversing some of this. But it will take a honed focus on what to attack, a constant drumbeat of information before the public, and that costs money, requires volunteers, and needs boots on the ground in areas where the vote would be contested.

The middle class is having to work too long and hard to find enough folks to push that on a volunteer basis, the cost of living has risen against incomes by incremental but steady advances so you can't count on their donations either.

The Left by comparison can garner outside contributions by those with a desire to undermine the nature of our freedoms and to create social chaos. They have plenty of unemployed volunteers most of who are subsidized by those with the agenda.

Many of the demonstrations are just paid protesters. I know I've been there too, just not on their side.

So shame on us is what I said and what I meant. If we don't defend our way of life on the minutest of fronts, then we won't defend our way of life against the mid-level or high level threats either. And that's where we are and anything else that is said about it is either excuse making or a defeatist take on things.

If progressives can infiltrate and subvert a non profit it is because we aren't equally dedicated and vigilant.
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(10-11-2017 02:24 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  watch them turn this around once they start losing memberships

No, the progs are in control. Its over.
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(10-11-2017 02:40 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Girl Scouts will sue. There will be less girls selling cookies.

Girl Scout cookies > Boy Scout popcorn.
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