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RE: Today is Coming Out Day
(10-11-2017 11:37 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:27 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Here's how Trump has supported the LGBT community since taking office

1) Refused to publicly condemn or even criticize (much less punish) Russia, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, and Egypt as they murder and jail LGBT persons for the crime of existing. Concentration camps for Gay persons? No problem, according to Trump and his SecState.

2) Supported a license to discriminate against every LGBT person, including support for the denial of health care access for LGBT persons.

3) Appointment of advocates of jailing Gay persons in the USA to prominent positions including the AG, and Federal Judges.

4) Trying to throw all Transpersons out of the military without consultation with their military leaders. Our first responders and military are to be venerated by Trumpers, so long as they're white, cisgendered, straight, etc. The rationale Trump used was that it was too expensive, but of course the military has spent millions more training those soldiers and the medical costs are less than Trump has spent on his golf trips or that the military has spent on viagara since he took office.

5) Blocked visas for persons fleeing literal death camps

6) Removed a Gay flag from the Natl Park Service's Stonewall monument (how friggin' petty can you be?). Meanwhile Confederate flags fly on Federal Property.

7) Voted in opposition to the death penalty for being Gay. No alternative resolution was proposed condemning and punishing nations that criminalize being Gay

8) On Friday, Trump will speak at (and implicitly endorse) a vicious hate group at a meeting in DC.

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Now on the not so genocidal/awful side.....Trump did appoint two rich Gay men to meaningless positions (neither have been confirmed and neither will be able to do anything pro-Gay in those positions). And he didn't remove existing non-discrimination protections for Federal workers (which is pointless since he's refusing to appoint any real amount of LGBT persons to anything). Meanwhile, anti-Gay homophobes are being appointed left and right to positions specifically for the purpose of harming LGBT persons.


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Trump is a vicious hater of LGBT persons who runs an administration seeking to harm the LGBT community.

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If there's a rational for anyone who doesn't hate the LGBT community to support Trump, I can't find it.

Huh. I thought you'd be in one of those FEMA internment camps by now.

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RE: Today is Coming Out Day
(10-11-2017 11:55 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What do LGBT people have to celebrate today in Trump's America?

let's see.......... hmmmm.................. being able to get married, have kids, own a home, work a job, and retire in comfort to enjoy your sunset years taking care of your grand-kids and not having to worry about being thrown off buildings or being stoned?

It's the little things, right? 03-lmfao
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RE: Today is Coming Out Day
(10-11-2017 11:27 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  4) Trying to throw all Transpersons out of the military without consultation with their military leaders. Our first responders and military are to be venerated by Trumpers, so long as they're white, cisgendered, straight, etc. The rationale Trump used was that it was too expensive, but of course the military has spent millions more training those soldiers and the medical costs are less than Trump has spent on his golf trips or that the military has spent on viagara since he took office.


Serious question regarding transgender: isn't there still discussion as to whether this is a psychological issue?
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RE: Today is Coming Out Day
(10-11-2017 12:03 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:55 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What do LGBT people have to celebrate today in Trump's America?

let's see.......... hmmmm.................. being able to get married, have kids, own a home, work a job, and retire in comfort to enjoy your sunset years taking care of your grand-kids and not having to worry about being thrown off buildings or being stoned?

It's the little things, right? 03-lmfao

What's sad though is that to this day there are posters on this board who openly advocate for the removal of some of the things you've listed above from LGBT persons.
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RE: Today is Coming Out Day
(10-11-2017 11:55 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:52 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Did you just hijack an LGBT holiday to make a political attack? I thought this was going to be a genuine celebration thread but oh well.

I'm probably one of the very few LGBT people they haven't run off yet.

What do LGBT people have to celebrate today in Trump's America?

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Not really interested in watching a video from Kylie Minogue today. Maybe I could run down to the Stonewall Inn for a celebration....oh wait...Trump decided to cancel that last night.

...what?!?

We are finally coming to point of societal acceptance, where people can just be who they are. On YT you can see a diverse group of people (including those evil conservatives you run on about) discuss their life stories free from persecution. Things have gotten better, and they will continue to get better.

This is a day of happiness and understanding. This isn't about our President.
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RE: Today is Coming Out Day
(10-11-2017 12:06 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 12:03 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:55 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What do LGBT people have to celebrate today in Trump's America?

let's see.......... hmmmm.................. being able to get married, have kids, own a home, work a job, and retire in comfort to enjoy your sunset years taking care of your grand-kids and not having to worry about being thrown off buildings or being stoned?

It's the little things, right? 03-lmfao

What's sad though is that to this day there are posters on this board who openly advocate for the removal of some of the things you've listed above from LGBT persons.

Yes, unfortunately. But the reality is those are not real concerns for today's American LGBTQ community.
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RE: Today is Coming Out Day
(10-11-2017 12:03 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:55 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What do LGBT people have to celebrate today in Trump's America?

let's see.......... hmmmm.................. being able to get married, have kids, own a home, work a job, and retire in comfort to enjoy your sunset years taking care of your grand-kids and not having to worry about being thrown off buildings or being stoned?

It's the little things, right? 03-lmfao

The right to get married on Sunday and then fired on Monday and thrown out of your home on Tuesday. And now. the right to get denied all healthcare in Mississippi because you're married.

The right to a job? Trump has been in the process of supporting discrimination against LGBT persons with his removal of support for non-discrimination last week. He wants to take pretty much all federal funding for education, health care, and social work and funnel that funding to agencies that don't hire LGBT persons or don't pay them equal wages.

Worry about being stoned or thrown off a building? How is Trump's refusal to oppose the death penalty for being Gay helpful in that regard? How is Trump/Tillerson's refusal to even criticize nations that ramp up deaths and jailings of LGBT persons helpful? Exactly how is Trump protecting us from anything, including Islamic violence? He's not.
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RE: Today is Coming Out Day
(10-11-2017 12:08 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 12:06 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 12:03 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:55 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  What do LGBT people have to celebrate today in Trump's America?

let's see.......... hmmmm.................. being able to get married, have kids, own a home, work a job, and retire in comfort to enjoy your sunset years taking care of your grand-kids and not having to worry about being thrown off buildings or being stoned?

It's the little things, right? 03-lmfao

What's sad though is that to this day there are posters on this board who openly advocate for the removal of some of the things you've listed above from LGBT persons.

Yes, unfortunately. But the reality is those are not real concerns for today's American LGBTQ community.

Actually, those Obama era gains are under attack by the Trump administration. The opposition of the LGBT community to Trump is also very much POLICY based.
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RE: Today is Coming Out Day
(10-11-2017 11:55 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:52 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Did you just hijack an LGBT holiday to make a political attack? I thought this was going to be a genuine celebration thread but oh well.

I'm probably one of the very few LGBT people they haven't run off yet.

What do LGBT people have to celebrate today in Trump's America?

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Not really interested in watching a video from Kylie Minogue today. Maybe I could run down to the Stonewall Inn for a celebration....oh wait...Trump decided to cancel that last night.

Not being thrown off rooftops. Not being tossed in jail. Not being set on fire. Not being shot in the head. Not being beheaded.

You should count yourself fortunate to be in the US.
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RE: Today is Coming Out Day
(10-11-2017 12:02 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:57 AM)Dasville Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:52 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Did you just hijack an LGBT holiday to make a political attack? I thought this was going to be a genuine celebration thread but oh well.

Straight people are not invited. The election of Donald Trump was a faglash.

Actually straight persons are welcome to support our community's goals of inclusion and non-discrimination.

You're welcome to try to argue how Trump and his supporters have helped those goals. But then you'd probably have to support non-discrimination and inclusion for the LGBT community. From the language in your previous comment, I'd be surprised if you did.

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I guess some argue Health care doesn't belong in that group but certainly access does.
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