Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
OT- US out of World Cup
Author Message
stever20 Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 28,562
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 266
I Root For: College Sports
Location:
Post: #11
RE: OT- US out of World Cup
(10-11-2017 11:02 AM)RutgersGuy Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 09:47 AM)stever20 Wrote:  US loses last night and is eliminated from the World Cup qualification.

Brutal news for Fox. Not just next years World Cup, but it also stunts development of soccer in this country. Given Fox has put a lot of their eggs in the soccer basket, that's huge.

Saw somewhere that this was a 200 million dollar loss for Fox.

Did Fox sleep with your wife or something? You really seem to take delight in their failures.

like folks don't do the same with ESPN?

This is devastating for Fox. No other way to spin it.
10-11-2017 11:10 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Frank the Tank Online
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 10,607
Joined: Jun 2008
Reputation: 457
I Root For: Illinois/DePaul
Location: Chicago
Post: #12
RE: OT- US out of World Cup
This isn't good for Fox, but it's not a complete disaster. The World Cup has drawn pretty good ratings for rounds even without the US since it has become almost a quasi-Olympics-type event for US viewers. (Of course, the World Cup is more important than the Olympics for most other countries.) Mexico is honestly as big of a draw from a TV standpoint in the US (albeit a lot of those viewers will be siphoned off by Telemundo's coverage). Fox losing 3 group stage games that would have featured the US certainly hurts, but this isn't tanking the overall long-term investment in soccer. The fact that so many sports fans are now paying attention to the USMNT qualifiers in the first place is quite a sea change from a decade ago.
10-11-2017 11:14 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Frank the Tank Online
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 10,607
Joined: Jun 2008
Reputation: 457
I Root For: Illinois/DePaul
Location: Chicago
Post: #13
RE: OT- US out of World Cup
Also, note that the fallout from the 2022 World Cup Qatar scandal with FIFA meant that Fox got the 2026 World Cup rights without having to bid for them. 2022 was always going to be rough with the winter timing, but 2026 will be a monster since it's going to be US/Canada/Mexico-based (meaning that the USMNT will be there regardless of the qualifiers and the US time zones will dictate TV coverage). It will all even out in the end - there's just going to be short-term pain for Fox here.
10-11-2017 11:22 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
stever20 Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 28,562
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 266
I Root For: College Sports
Location:
Post: #14
RE: OT- US out of World Cup
(10-11-2017 11:22 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Also, note that the fallout from the 2022 World Cup Qatar scandal with FIFA meant that Fox got the 2026 World Cup rights without having to bid for them. 2022 was always going to be rough with the winter timing, but 2026 will be a monster since it's going to be US/Canada/Mexico-based (meaning that the USMNT will be there regardless of the qualifiers and the US time zones will dictate TV coverage). It will all even out in the end - there's just going to be short-term pain for Fox here.

but that's assuming Fox gets there. 9 years from now, we have no clue what TV will look like. In today's world, it'd be big, but 9 years from now who knows.
10-11-2017 11:46 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
dbackjon Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,118
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 183
I Root For: NAU/Illini
Location:
Post: #15
RE: OT- US out of World Cup
Anyone else think that once Mexico and Costa Rica saw the US score at half-time, and realized that the US could be eliminated, they went into tank mode? Both were leading at the half, then each gave up two goals and didn't score themselves.
10-11-2017 11:46 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
stever20 Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 28,562
Joined: Nov 2011
Reputation: 266
I Root For: College Sports
Location:
Post: #16
RE: OT- US out of World Cup
(10-11-2017 11:46 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Anyone else think that once Mexico and Costa Rica saw the US score at half-time, and realized that the US could be eliminated, they went into tank mode? Both were leading at the half, then each gave up two goals and didn't score themselves.

definitely think that this happened.
10-11-2017 11:48 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Wedge Offline
Moderator
*

Posts: 12,615
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 377
I Root For: California
Location: Bear Territory
Post: #17
RE: OT- US out of World Cup
(10-11-2017 10:52 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  That's not true. It is unlikely Arena will take the US into the next qualifying cycle. I wasn't a fan of his hire because it was clear he was hired to patch this qualifier and not be the guy who built US Soccer for 2022. He was John L Smith hired to interim Arkansas after Petrino.

Arena was hired because the current USMNT is a mess. There has been a long term failure to identify and integrate more talent that is at Pulisic's level and in his age bracket. The team is too reliant on 30-something guys who are at least a few years past their prime. Arena was thought to be the right guy to make the best of this limited team because his career M.O. is to ride or die with older veterans.

Will this be the wake-up call that motivates a long term fix to this mess? Given the resources available to the USMNT, the goal should not be barely qualifying for a World Cup instead of barely missing out on qualifying.
10-11-2017 11:49 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Frank the Tank Online
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 10,607
Joined: Jun 2008
Reputation: 457
I Root For: Illinois/DePaul
Location: Chicago
Post: #18
RE: OT- US out of World Cup
(10-11-2017 11:48 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:46 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Anyone else think that once Mexico and Costa Rica saw the US score at half-time, and realized that the US could be eliminated, they went into tank mode? Both were leading at the half, then each gave up two goals and didn't score themselves.

definitely think that this happened.

Wouldn't shock me at all. Granted, if the US can't even tie Trinidad and Tobago (much less beat them), they have no one to blame other than themselves.
10-11-2017 12:00 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
dbackjon Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 5,118
Joined: May 2010
Reputation: 183
I Root For: NAU/Illini
Location:
Post: #19
RE: OT- US out of World Cup
(10-11-2017 12:00 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:48 AM)stever20 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:46 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Anyone else think that once Mexico and Costa Rica saw the US score at half-time, and realized that the US could be eliminated, they went into tank mode? Both were leading at the half, then each gave up two goals and didn't score themselves.

definitely think that this happened.

Wouldn't shock me at all. Granted, if the US can't even tie Trinidad and Tobago (much less beat them), they have no one to blame other than themselves.

Very true - all the US needed was one of three things to happen:
1) At least TIE T&T
2) Have Honduras and Panama (playing the top two teams) tie or lose.

No excuse to at least not tie T&T
10-11-2017 12:02 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
arkstfan Away
Sorry folks
*

Posts: 20,272
Joined: Feb 2004
Reputation: 569
I Root For: Fresh Starts
Location:
Post: #20
RE: OT- US out of World Cup
(10-11-2017 11:49 AM)Wedge Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 10:52 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  That's not true. It is unlikely Arena will take the US into the next qualifying cycle. I wasn't a fan of his hire because it was clear he was hired to patch this qualifier and not be the guy who built US Soccer for 2022. He was John L Smith hired to interim Arkansas after Petrino.

Arena was hired because the current USMNT is a mess. There has been a long term failure to identify and integrate more talent that is at Pulisic's level and in his age bracket. The team is too reliant on 30-something guys who are at least a few years past their prime. Arena was thought to be the right guy to make the best of this limited team because his career M.O. is to ride or die with older veterans.

Will this be the wake-up call that motivates a long term fix to this mess? Given the resources available to the USMNT, the goal should not be barely qualifying for a World Cup instead of barely missing out on qualifying.

Arena was a patch job hired to do a patch job because USSF was afraid to do what needed to be done and rebuild. The leadership was afraid we wouldn't qualify if we started a rebuild. Well we didn't qualify and we are going to do a rebuild, we are just going to start a year later on it.
10-11-2017 12:27 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2017 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2017 MyBB Group.