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Only thing with the trade was he was going to be a free agent after next year anyways. They get a guy in return who could be the Pirates long term answer in cf, and a pretty good relief pitcher. Pretty good haul for a 1 year rental. If guys aren't going to resign, you have to get something back in return.
01-17-2018 02:27 PM
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Nah.... Cutch would've signed. The Pirates never attempted to make an offer. His wife is from Pittsburgh and they named their child Steel.
01-17-2018 02:29 PM
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And he is 31 right now, and will be 32 by end of next year. Better to get rid of a guy like that a smidge too early than it is to keep him too long and get stuck with a bad contract.
01-17-2018 02:47 PM
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(01-17-2018 02:01 PM)stever20 Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 01:49 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  **** the Pirates. If I'm any big market team, I'd instantly want to get rid of revenue sharing. The Pirates are pocketing $50M as opposed to investing in players. Nutting is literally stealing from the Yankees.

The second I saw your name on this post, I knew what the post was going to be.

Just sucks right now. All the big market teams starting to dominate again. And it still blows my mind when you have idiot teams like Atlanta flipping HELPING LA get under the tax threshold so they can reset their tax penalties.

The Braves are owned by a media conglomerate. While that is the source of many of my frustrations with them, I'd be willing to bet there was some quid pro quo with that LA tax deal.

Liberty Media does not care in the least whether the Braves are actually competitive. As long as the Braves are making money, that's all they care about.
01-17-2018 04:59 PM
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(01-17-2018 04:59 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  ...I'd be willing to bet there was some quid pro quo with that LA tax deal.

Curious to know what you mean by this. I mean, it was a trade...
01-17-2018 05:51 PM
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(01-17-2018 05:51 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(01-17-2018 04:59 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  ...I'd be willing to bet there was some quid pro quo with that LA tax deal.

Curious to know what you mean by this. I mean, it was a trade...

I'm not saying I know anything that went on behind closed doors. I'm just saying the Liberty Media group are not primarily running a baseball operation. The vast majority of the moves the Braves have made the last few years were about cost-cutting and not necessarily improving the on-field product.

Somewhere along the line, some other consideration could have been made...maybe some favor exchanged that would have encouraged Liberty Media to help out the LA owners.

I could be wrong. I'm just sayin'
01-17-2018 06:09 PM
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(01-17-2018 02:09 PM)ClairtonPanther Wrote:  Per Forbes, the Pirates are worth 1.25B, with a market size that's relative to St. Louis.

Would be interesting to know what the annual cash flow is. I'd be very surprised if the Pirates have as much annual revenue as the Cardinals.
01-17-2018 06:30 PM
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one thing- while yes the actual market is similar between Pittsburgh and St Louis(St Louis 21, Pittsburgh 24)- the surrounding area is a whole hell of a lot different in favor of St Louis.
01-17-2018 06:43 PM
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I see that ARod will be coming over to ESPN to call Sunday Night Baseball games along with holdover Jessica Mendoza and new play by play man Matt Vasgersian. Arod will continue to work the postseason with Fox. Nice move and should be a really good booth I would think.
01-23-2018 12:53 PM
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i understand what jeter is doing, but it's still funny. same old marlins. successful or failure; rebuild
01-25-2018 09:28 PM
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