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Library Renovation Photo
New completed renovation photo with landscaping (UT photo).

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10-11-2017 02:29 AM
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I could not find a photo of the same angle, but this building was very unsightly in my opinion compared to the overall architecture on our campus. The new entrance with outdoor rooftop area over it is probably a nice place to study or read a book plus all the natural light inside. It would be great to see the inside improvements too. Its a big improvement.

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10-11-2017 04:52 AM
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I ran by the building over the weekend before tailgating and going to the game. The area around the library, the student union, Snyder Memorial, and the torn down annex looks great. The campus as a whole looks so much better than when I was getting my masters there (2008).

Also, after seeing campus with the new master plan in the back of my mind, I think the proposed changes at Rocket Hall and the Carter Hall buildings would be huge. Both areas still feel a little like outliers, but with a lot of potential.
10-11-2017 07:35 AM
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My original opinion still stands.

I could think of hundreds of better uses of that type money on a college campus. If it was a private donator that decided they wanted to put a glass wall on the library so people could look out at a wall, their business but a wise university might have said "no thanks, here's how we might direct the money towards your goals." Though construction has a lot of political and economic pull some leaders don't have the will to say "no" to, or encourage wiser stewardship.

Given a great desire to put a glass wall in the library, there were three other directions that actually would have spectacular views, towards U-Hall, campus green along the river or the Glass Bowl. Two of those would have avoided evening Summer sun. How or why they chose this direction or started the remodel without pre-construction public notice of invite of opinion, again, who knows?

Now a 360 roof top thing? That I can see. Good hosting place. Nice study option. And just in time for Autumn, which should be spectacular.
10-11-2017 03:09 PM
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(10-11-2017 03:09 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  My original opinion still stands.

I could think of hundreds of better uses of that type money on a college campus. If it was a private donator that decided they wanted to put a glass wall on the library so people could look out at a wall, their business but a wise university might have said "no thanks, here's how we might direct the money towards your goals." Though construction has a lot of political and economic pull some leaders don't have the will to say "no" to, or encourage wiser stewardship.

Given a great desire to put a glass wall in the library, there were three other directions that actually would have spectacular views, towards U-Hall, campus green along the river or the Glass Bowl. Two of those would have avoided evening Summer sun. How or why they chose this direction or started the remodel without pre-construction public notice of invite of opinion, again, who knows?

Now a 360 roof top thing? That I can see. Good hosting place. Nice study option. And just in time for Autumn, which should be spectacular.

Not sure about the direction of the glass wall or if we want people on the roof, but quite a bit of the project was repairing the crumbling walls and upper walkways that were a mess.
10-12-2017 03:55 AM
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(10-12-2017 03:55 AM)DetroitRocket Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 03:09 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  My original opinion still stands.

I could think of hundreds of better uses of that type money on a college campus.

Not sure about the direction of the glass wall or if we want people on the roof, but quite a bit of the project was repairing the crumbling walls and upper walkways that were a mess.

Not to doubt except to think what "quite a bit" might mean? Perhaps those walls and walkways were that side were "crumbling," but then I'd wonder, why? Why not other sides also? Is there a bigger problem?

My impression remains this was a cosmetic feature. If walls are crumbling to the point an entire side of a structure needs redone, I'd be concerned the other sides also. If it is cosmetic, at the risk of imitating the southern school, plaster a mural up there would have been a lot cheaper, just as nice.

But, what's done is done, for whatever mysterious reason. Don't imagine they owe anyone an explanation. People aren't generally going to look up at that or out that and wonder "how much did this cost?"
10-12-2017 04:39 PM
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(10-11-2017 03:09 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  My original opinion still stands.

I could think of hundreds of better uses of that type money on a college campus. If it was a private donator that decided they wanted to put a glass wall on the library so people could look out at a wall, their business but a wise university might have said "no thanks, here's how we might direct the money towards your goals." Though construction has a lot of political and economic pull some leaders don't have the will to say "no" to, or encourage wiser stewardship.

Given a great desire to put a glass wall in the library, there were three other directions that actually would have spectacular views, towards U-Hall, campus green along the river or the Glass Bowl. Two of those would have avoided evening Summer sun. How or why they chose this direction or started the remodel without pre-construction public notice of invite of opinion, again, who knows?

Now a 360 roof top thing? That I can see. Good hosting place. Nice study option. And just in time for Autumn, which should be spectacular.

it was state capital budget funded and stage 3 of extensive renovations in Carlson done over the last several years including improving natural lighting, energy efficiencies, more study spaces, technology improvements to update and modernize both the inside and outside spaces
10-13-2017 04:51 PM
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(10-13-2017 04:51 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 03:09 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  My original opinion still stands.

I could think of hundreds of better uses of that type money on a college campus. If it was a private donator that decided they wanted to put a glass wall on the library so people could look out at a wall, their business but a wise university might have said "no thanks, here's how we might direct the money towards your goals." Though construction has a lot of political and economic pull some leaders don't have the will to say "no" to, or encourage wiser stewardship.

Given a great desire to put a glass wall in the library, there were three other directions that actually would have spectacular views, towards U-Hall, campus green along the river or the Glass Bowl. Two of those would have avoided evening Summer sun. How or why they chose this direction or started the remodel without pre-construction public notice of invite of opinion, again, who knows?

Now a 360 roof top thing? That I can see. Good hosting place. Nice study option. And just in time for Autumn, which should be spectacular.

it was state capital budget funded and stage 3 of extensive renovations in Carlson done over the last several years including improving natural lighting, energy efficiencies, more study spaces, technology improvements to update and modernize both the inside and outside spaces

a bunch of words for "fancy unneeded glass wall" and "pork."

When are they going to knock down a wall of U-Hall to add some "natural lighting?"
10-13-2017 05:49 PM
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So what improvements should the university have made using funding that was allocated for improvements to buildings on campus?
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10-15-2017 11:43 PM
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RE: Library Renovation Photo
(10-13-2017 05:49 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(10-13-2017 04:51 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 03:09 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  My original opinion still stands.

I could think of hundreds of better uses of that type money on a college campus. If it was a private donator that decided they wanted to put a glass wall on the library so people could look out at a wall, their business but a wise university might have said "no thanks, here's how we might direct the money towards your goals." Though construction has a lot of political and economic pull some leaders don't have the will to say "no" to, or encourage wiser stewardship.

Given a great desire to put a glass wall in the library, there were three other directions that actually would have spectacular views, towards U-Hall, campus green along the river or the Glass Bowl. Two of those would have avoided evening Summer sun. How or why they chose this direction or started the remodel without pre-construction public notice of invite of opinion, again, who knows?

Now a 360 roof top thing? That I can see. Good hosting place. Nice study option. And just in time for Autumn, which should be spectacular.

it was state capital budget funded and stage 3 of extensive renovations in Carlson done over the last several years including improving natural lighting, energy efficiencies, more study spaces, technology improvements to update and modernize both the inside and outside spaces

a bunch of words for "fancy unneeded glass wall" and "pork."

When are they going to knock down a wall of U-Hall to add some "natural lighting?"

Maybe you should submit all your suggestions (approval and disapproval) to the powers that be ...
10-16-2017 06:50 AM
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