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(10-12-2017 07:21 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  You guys might want to note that the teams advancing to the World Cup ahead of us are full of MLS players. This isn't solely an "MLS thing", it's an American thing.

I don't like MLS. Soccer in America should be built upon independent local clubs, not rich entitled jerkoffs like Dan Gilbert. People like Gilbert are why US soccer sucks.

Detroit needs a MLS team like brovol needs another...never mind.
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(10-12-2017 09:07 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(10-12-2017 07:21 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  You guys might want to note that the teams advancing to the World Cup ahead of us are full of MLS players. This isn't solely an "MLS thing", it's an American thing.

I don't like MLS. Soccer in America should be built upon independent local clubs, not rich entitled jerkoffs like Dan Gilbert. People like Gilbert are why US soccer sucks.

Detroit needs a MLS team like brovol needs another...never mind.

Agree. MLS is an abomination. Gilbert sucks. So does ....
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MLS is bad, but it's not because of "rich owners". Most of these DCFC types whining about rich owners also watch EPL and support some team owned by one of the richest people on the planet. This idea that some grassroots early 1900s working class club effort is the future of soccer in the US is a fantasy.

Any successful professional league is going to be propped up by rich peoples' money. It's how sports work these days. That the current people running MLS are doing a horrible job of it doesn't change that reality.
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(10-12-2017 09:07 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(10-12-2017 07:21 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  You guys might want to note that the teams advancing to the World Cup ahead of us are full of MLS players. This isn't solely an "MLS thing", it's an American thing.

I don't like MLS. Soccer in America should be built upon independent local clubs, not rich entitled jerkoffs like Dan Gilbert. People like Gilbert are why US soccer sucks.

Detroit needs a MLS team like brovol needs another...never mind.
There you go Mr antagonist.

Shouldn't you be reporting to your PO?
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(10-12-2017 09:50 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  MLS is bad, but it's not because of "rich owners". Most of these DCFC types whining about rich owners also watch EPL and support some team owned by one of the richest people on the planet. This idea that some grassroots early 1900s working class club effort is the future of soccer in the US is a fantasy.

Any successful professional league is going to be propped up by rich peoples' money. It's how sports work these days. That the current people running MLS are doing a horrible job of it doesn't change that reality.

DCFC deserves your support, not your derision. They actually do good things for Detroit, unlike what Dan Gilbert would do except for extort as much money as possible from taxpayers and consumers. The entire franchise model of professional sports in the US is a total racket.

Gilbert is going to rip the city off for the jail site. Why should anyone support that? The Illitches already ripped the city off for the Oven. Enough already.

There is soccer in Detroit. It's just not perverted by American consumerism.
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(10-13-2017 04:59 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(10-12-2017 09:50 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  MLS is bad, but it's not because of "rich owners". Most of these DCFC types whining about rich owners also watch EPL and support some team owned by one of the richest people on the planet. This idea that some grassroots early 1900s working class club effort is the future of soccer in the US is a fantasy.

Any successful professional league is going to be propped up by rich peoples' money. It's how sports work these days. That the current people running MLS are doing a horrible job of it doesn't change that reality.

DCFC deserves your support, not your derision. They actually do good things for Detroit, unlike what Dan Gilbert would do except for extort as much money as possible from taxpayers and consumers. The entire franchise model of professional sports in the US is a total racket.

Gilbert is going to rip the city off for the jail site. Why should anyone support that? The Illitches already ripped the city off for the Oven. Enough already.

There is soccer in Detroit. It's just not perverted by American consumerism.

That's fine. I have nothing against DCFC or minor league sports (although NGS is pretty embarrassing) and I'd encourage you to keep supporting them. I'm just speaking in reality. Any respectable/competitive top level league will involve rich people's money for better or worse. Doesn't compel you to support it. I've preferred attending minor league sports for years and don't follow any major leagues except the NHL anymore (and even then less than I used to).

Nonetheless, the idea that top level soccer in the US will ever be grassroots independent clubs is a fantasy. Flew the coop decades ago.
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What's wrong with NGS?
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Proud NGS member here. A lot of people are put off by the crass chants, but the NGS does a lot for the community and DCFC.

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(10-13-2017 05:19 PM)SilentStryk09 Wrote:  Proud NGS member here. A lot of people are put off by the crass chants, but the NGS does a lot for the community and DCFC.

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Good for you! People who hate on DCFC and NGS are bitter, hateful, shallow hacks.
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(10-13-2017 05:11 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  What's wrong with NGS?

That's what you took from that post?
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