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(10-11-2017 02:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Trayvon was straight up murdered by Zimmerman.

And the evidence to support that claim is????

You're stating what your emotions tell you. I'm stating what the law tells me.

If you truly think that Zimmerman murdered Trayvon, then you should have supported holding off on arresting him until sufficient evidence had been gathered to support a murder conviction. I don't know whether we would have that evidence today or not if we had waited. I know that we don't now, and we certainly did not at the time of trial. So he walked. I think they could have gotten a conviction for negligent homicide, based upon the act of leaving the car being negligent. Maybe even manslaughter if you could prove it was more reckless than negligent. But that's as far as things could have gotten on what we know now.
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(10-11-2017 02:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 01:40 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 01:16 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 12:42 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 10:14 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Yep. The entire point is that black people can be murdered without consequence for doing nothing using 'stand your ground' rules and black people cannot stand their ground ever against even white Nazis. All these stand your ground and 2nd Amendment "freedoms" are really not applicable to black males.

Care to name one black person who was "murdered without consequence for doing nothing using 'stand your ground' rules"?

Note that four elements are required:
1) murdered, meaning killed intentionally;
2) without consequence;
3) for doing nothing; and
4) using 'stand your ground' rules.

Trayvon Martin

Nope.

No proof (or even indication) of the requisite intent.
Being arrested and tried for murder is hardly without consequence.
Maybe he was doing nothing, maybe not; that's the whole problem, you can't get a conviction for anything without a definite resolution of this specific issue.
The Fifth Amendment had far more to do with this result than SYG.

So, 0 for 4 on the specific elements. But keep going, it's a nice charade. And George Zimmerman is an a-hole who deserve punishment, at least you have that going for you.

Personally, I think you could use getting out of the car as sufficiently negligent to get negligent homicide, and possibly even sufficiently reckless to get manslaughter. But that's as far as the evidence would support. If the rabble-rousers had been willing to accept that, Zimmerman could be in prison where he belongs today. And if the rabble-rousers had been willing to allow the prosecutor to wait until the case could be made before moving forward, he might even be doing that time for murder.

Shooting an unarmed black male in a traffic stop? No jail. How about a man in a wheelchair? No jail. 12 year old kid in a park? No jail.

Trayvon was straight up murdered by Zimmerman.

Millions of people thought OJ was guilty of murder. But only the opinions of 12 people mattered.

Did they know better than the rest of us? Assuredly so.
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(10-11-2017 03:18 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  Millions of people thought OJ was guilty of murder. But only the opinions of 12 people mattered.
Did they know better than the rest of us? Assuredly so.

Same problem for OJ as for George Zimmerman. No matter what you believe did or did not happen, the prosecutors simply did not put forth in court sufficient evidence to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, so in both cases the not guilty verdict was the only possible one based on the evidence.
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(10-11-2017 02:00 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Shooting an unarmed black male in a traffic stop? No jail. How about a man in a wheelchair? No jail. 12 year old kid in a park? No jail.
Trayvon was straight up murdered by Zimmerman.

None of those states a cause of action for murder. They simply don't.
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(10-11-2017 10:14 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 10:00 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 09:47 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 09:30 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 09:28 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Remember, stand your ground, like the 2nd Amendment, only applies to white people who are attacking black persons, apparently.

He went up and hit someone with a flashlight. Not exactly stand your ground. Nobody was threatening him specifically. Try reading the story before putting out inane nonsense.

And Trayvon was walking home with Skittles and Arizona Ice Tea.

Not Guilty, 03-lmfao

Yep. The entire point is that black people can be murdered without consequence for doing nothing using 'stand your ground' rules and black people cannot stand their ground ever against even white Nazis. All these stand your ground and 2nd Amendment "freedoms" are really not applicable to black males.

You know... come to think of it, I have never seen TomInLazybrook and CUSA in the same room together.
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(10-10-2017 12:20 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  there is a video of him attacking people before others jumped him

Wooops.
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(10-11-2017 10:00 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 09:47 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 09:30 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 09:28 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Remember, stand your ground, like the 2nd Amendment, only applies to white people who are attacking black persons, apparently.

He went up and hit someone with a flashlight. Not exactly stand your ground. Nobody was threatening him specifically. Try reading the story before putting out inane nonsense.

And Trayvon was walking home with Skittles and Arizona Ice Tea.

Not Guilty, 03-lmfao

Hispanic guy.

Pretty sure we've been over all this. 07-coffee3
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(10-11-2017 09:47 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 09:30 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 09:28 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Remember, stand your ground, like the 2nd Amendment, only applies to white people who are attacking black persons, apparently.

He went up and hit someone with a flashlight. Not exactly stand your ground. Nobody was threatening him specifically. Try reading the story before putting out inane nonsense.

And Trayvon was walking home with Skittles and Arizona Ice Tea.

Then physically assaulted someone. You forgot that.
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...derailed

Do we really have to revisit reading comp. 101?
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New video of this racist man, being beating down by a white man and a white woman wearing black hitting this guy n the head with a blunt object after he and his buddies brutally beaten this black man. The racist is making excuses for his actions and blamed it on others.
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