RE: This is why you don't wait to fire bad coaches (Tubberville)
It is also good that we do not let message board posters hire and fire coaches. Currently in the 2018 recruiting cycle, we are number one amongst g5s. There are only 30 to 40 programs rated better. Fickel is etting a foundation. To compare him to Flubbs is universally unfair on so many levels. That guy never checked in for ten sconds on this job.
Right now, his organization and on field coaching is terrible, but is there anything to lead us to believe that this will not change. Have a little faith in the process. If we lose the last three games, than push the panic button. In the meantime, get satisfaction by watching the young guys grow and make plays.
RE: This is why you don't wait to fire bad coaches (Tubberville)
Calm down. Fickell deserves a Year Zero, but the knock on him coming in was that he was gonna be a great recruiter and a meh game coach. Ergo, he's gonna hafta get better players then everybody else. He's off to a decent start, but that Gibson transfer falling through hurts sooooooo much.
also: I haven't decided how I feel about how they're handling the Alex Thomas situation. I've heard that they're contemplating a dismissal or plea deal (for an unlicensed pistol) due to lack of witnesses. Bad as this defensive backfield was and projected to be, most programs would've let him play pending adjudication (or at least bonded him out). Fickell set a precedent and I wonder how that goes down the line.
RE: This is why you don't wait to fire bad coaches (Tubberville)
(10-08-2017 12:52 PM)blackcattitude Wrote: Calm down. Fickell deserves a Year Zero, but the knock on him coming in was that he was gonna be a great recruiter and a meh game coach. Ergo, he's gonna hafta get better players then everybody else. He's off to a decent start, but that Gibson transfer falling through hurts sooooooo much.
also: I haven't decided how I feel about how they're handling the Alex Thomas situation. I've heard that they're contemplating a dismissal or plea deal (for an unlicensed pistol) due to lack of witnesses. Bad as this defensive backfield was and projected to be, most programs would've let him play pending adjudication (or at least bonded him out). Fickell set a precedent and I wonder how that goes down the line.
Torrance Gibson is an apparent head case who has now washed out at three schools ( tO$U, Cincinnati State, and MGCCC). Not sure why it hurts at all.
RE: This is why you don't wait to fire bad coaches (Tubberville)
(10-08-2017 12:07 PM)rosewater Wrote: It is also good that we do not let message board posters hire and fire coaches. Currently in the 2018 recruiting cycle, we are number one amongst g5s. There are only 30 to 40 programs rated better. Fickel is etting a foundation. To compare him to Flubbs is universally unfair on so many levels. That guy never checked in for ten sconds on this job.
Right now, his organization and on field coaching is terrible, but is there anything to lead us to believe that this will not change. Have a little faith in the process. If we lose the last three games, than push the panic button. In the meantime, get satisfaction by watching the young guys grow and make plays.
Guy in front of us was beside himself over someone getting hit with a penalty or two and not having to sit. He also couldn't believe, as we all don't, how many guys on defense were so out of position. Now he was quick to blame the coaching staff for all of this and I agreed. HOWEVER, this defensive secondary had trouble with Austin P. Navy burned them for 600+, Marshall moved the ball as they liked, and we all saw what happened last night. Not to pick on one individual but I have a picture burned in my mind of Carter Jacobs chasing a Navy player into the end zone having let him get behind him for an easy td pass. Come on guys - do you really believe the coaching staff doesn't see this - isn't working their tails off to try to correct it.
You can say you couldn't can TT before we did because he won some games over his first couple of years, but. and it's an old expression, he did it with someone else's players. His staffs were a constant mess and he didn't do much of anything. He came here to retire (wife's family nearby). By the time he had to play the games with his "own" players we all saw what happened over the last 2 years. I don't know if Fickell and his staff are as incompetent as many believe - it's a small sample with a roster of players many of whom shouldn't be playing regularly for a division 1 program. At my age I hate like hel_ to say we need to take a breath and wait, but I'll keep my seats as long as I can get to the Nip and maybe this thing gets turned around over the next couple of seasons - it sure as hel_ can't get much worse!
RE: This is why you don't wait to fire bad coaches (Tubberville)
(10-07-2017 08:54 PM)Bearcatbdub Wrote: I blame Mike Thomas and Nancy Zimpher.
I was not comfy with TT's handling of QB Gunner Kiel during his tenure. Kiel had some good season stats that appeared that Tommy wanted his own guy directing the team. Hence, the offense began crumbling and still hasn't recovered today.
RE: This is why you don't wait to fire bad coaches (Tubberville)
The secondary looked very slow the last few weeks not sure what the coaches can do this year maybe that's why they recruited s many d-backs still believe they will get this turned around but not going to happen all at once
RE: This is why you don't wait to fire bad coaches (Tubberville)
(10-08-2017 01:52 PM)JackieTreehorn Wrote: Torrance Gibson is an apparent head case who has now washed out at three schools ( tO$U, Cincinnati State, and MGCCC). Not sure why it hurts at all.
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RE: This is why you don't wait to fire bad coaches (Tubberville)
When I watch Fickell post-game pressers it appears to me he doesn't want to throw players under the bus. It feels like he wants to say - we are outclassed at every position, but he won't say it, he'll find a way to put the blame on the coaches or the process.
While UC was wasting opportunities and going backwards the last 4 years all these other AAC schools were catching up or passing us, except UConn.