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Official Game Thread: #25 Western Carolina
Date: October 14th, 2017

Time: 3:30 PM

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RE: Official Game Thread: #25 Western Carolina
OK sports fans, I went back to my post before the Mercer Game (9/20/17 at 12:24). I broke down some observations before that game and my post on 10/1/17 at 2:38 after the FU game. If I compare the two posts with the play we saw against MU, FU and RMU, I stand by the observations.
• #4 was a stud at FU, but had no affect against RMU. He may have been injured early on – we saw him being worked out on the sideline in the beginning of the game, but he appeared to be fine on the sidelines. Hope he is ok; the Bucs need him.
• #9 is still inconsistent. Makes a couple great catches and then drops a wide-open standstill TD. Frustrating at times.
• #80 is still that possession receiver that can take it the distance. You have to account for this kid.
• #86 is a stud. He catches everything and is not afraid to go over the middle. He had a couple great catches and YAC! Gotta love that mentality. Has to be #7’s go to guy! The team may want to think about making him the receiving corps’ face for the media.
• #89 continues to make plays down field. He’s not catching the short junk. He is a legitimate downfield threat. The ball he caught on the sideline was a one hander with a DB draped all over him. He’s also a big time blocker. Watched him de-cleat a few LBs and safeties this year (JMU, MU and FU). Had another big hit on a RMU LB that sprung #86.

I don’t remember any TE’s or RBs catching anything this week, but the 5 players mentioned above have separated themselves from the rest of the receiving corps. Each brings a different skillset. IMO, the staff should figure out how to keep this group on the field. If you are going to rotate receivers, rotate these 5 instead of rotating the normal 8 or 9.

It is very difficult to assess the RBs when averaging less than 2 yards per game, so I won’t.

Defensively:
• #45 is a stud. What can you say about a kid that had three sacks and is in the backfield more than the opposing team’s RB!
• #40 is always terrific. His knack for the ball is simply amazing. When you need a play, 40 can be counted on - every game, every play.
• #99 has really come on nicely. Another year in the weight room is going to turn this solid defender into a dynamic player.
• #32 and #10 are consistently moving in the right direction and can be counted on in run/rush support, need a little refinement in coverage, but are surely athletic enough to do it.
• #49 is developing more and more in the pass rush. You can see there is a little hesitation in scheme and coverage, but as soon as that clicks, he’ll be a dominant player.

Liked the change in the secondary. #13 looks to be a better fit at CB. Getting 14 and 43 into the mix will only help with experience, but the secondary as a whole has to close the gap. Constantly playing off eight yards off the receivers - why? Come on coach… Playing eight off on 3rd and 3…. really?

WCU has a wide open offense. Their QB this year is much better than he was last year. ETSU HAS to find a way to run the ball for more than 2 yards per carry and stay on the field and they HAVE to tighten up coverage. My friends in Cullowhee said they have had this date circled on the calendar since the loss at Bristol. Time to man up and get that first road conference win.
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RE: Official Game Thread: #25 Western Carolina
Good comments, Spector.

Have to open up playbook on first down. Got to get tighter on receivers and blitz early to make QB uncomfortable. QB will pick the Bucs apart if not harassed.
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RE: Official Game Thread: #25 Western Carolina
(10-09-2017 02:02 PM)Spector Wrote:  OK sports fans, I went back to my post before the Mercer Game (9/20/17 at 12:24). I broke down some observations before that game and my post on 10/1/17 at 2:38 after the FU game. If I compare the two posts with the play we saw against MU, FU and RMU, I stand by the observations.
• #4 was a stud at FU, but had no affect against RMU. He may have been injured early on – we saw him being worked out on the sideline in the beginning of the game, but he appeared to be fine on the sidelines. Hope he is ok; the Bucs need him.
• #9 is still inconsistent. Makes a couple great catches and then drops a wide-open standstill TD. Frustrating at times.
• #80 is still that possession receiver that can take it the distance. You have to account for this kid.
• #86 is a stud. He catches everything and is not afraid to go over the middle. He had a couple great catches and YAC! Gotta love that mentality. Has to be #7’s go to guy! The team may want to think about making him the receiving corps’ face for the media.
• #89 continues to make plays down field. He’s not catching the short junk. He is a legitimate downfield threat. The ball he caught on the sideline was a one hander with a DB draped all over him. He’s also a big time blocker. Watched him de-cleat a few LBs and safeties this year (JMU, MU and FU). Had another big hit on a RMU LB that sprung #86.

I don’t remember any TE’s or RBs catching anything this week, but the 5 players mentioned above have separated themselves from the rest of the receiving corps. Each brings a different skillset. IMO, the staff should figure out how to keep this group on the field. If you are going to rotate receivers, rotate these 5 instead of rotating the normal 8 or 9.

It is very difficult to assess the RBs when averaging less than 2 yards per game, so I won’t.

Defensively:
• #45 is a stud. What can you say about a kid that had three sacks and is in the backfield more than the opposing team’s RB!
• #40 is always terrific. His knack for the ball is simply amazing. When you need a play, 40 can be counted on - every game, every play.
• #99 has really come on nicely. Another year in the weight room is going to turn this solid defender into a dynamic player.
• #32 and #10 are consistently moving in the right direction and can be counted on in run/rush support, need a little refinement in coverage, but are surely athletic enough to do it.
• #49 is developing more and more in the pass rush. You can see there is a little hesitation in scheme and coverage, but as soon as that clicks, he’ll be a dominant player.

Liked the change in the secondary. #13 looks to be a better fit at CB. Getting 14 and 43 into the mix will only help with experience, but the secondary as a whole has to close the gap. Constantly playing off eight yards off the receivers - why? Come on coach… Playing eight off on 3rd and 3…. really?

WCU has a wide open offense. Their QB this year is much better than he was last year. ETSU HAS to find a way to run the ball for more than 2 yards per carry and stay on the field and they HAVE to tighten up coverage. My friends in Cullowhee said they have had this date circled on the calendar since the loss at Bristol. Time to man up and get that first road conference win.

What is your opinion of the interior defensive line? It’s my novice opinion they do not provide much of a pass rush. Is that a fair assessment, or am I not considering something? Your analysis is always appreciated.
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Western is promoting this as the "Blue Ridge Border Battle".
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(10-09-2017 02:02 PM)Spector Wrote:  OK sports fans, I went back to my post before the Mercer Game (9/20/17 at 12:24). I broke down some observations before that game and my post on 10/1/17 at 2:38 after the FU game. If I compare the two posts with the play we saw against MU, FU and RMU, I stand by the observations.
• #4 was a stud at FU, but had no affect against RMU. He may have been injured early on – we saw him being worked out on the sideline in the beginning of the game, but he appeared to be fine on the sidelines. Hope he is ok; the Bucs need him.
• #9 is still inconsistent. Makes a couple great catches and then drops a wide-open standstill TD. Frustrating at times.
• #80 is still that possession receiver that can take it the distance. You have to account for this kid.
• #86 is a stud. He catches everything and is not afraid to go over the middle. He had a couple great catches and YAC! Gotta love that mentality. Has to be #7’s go to guy! The team may want to think about making him the receiving corps’ face for the media.
• #89 continues to make plays down field. He’s not catching the short junk. He is a legitimate downfield threat. The ball he caught on the sideline was a one hander with a DB draped all over him. He’s also a big time blocker. Watched him de-cleat a few LBs and safeties this year (JMU, MU and FU). Had another big hit on a RMU LB that sprung #86.

I don’t remember any TE’s or RBs catching anything this week, but the 5 players mentioned above have separated themselves from the rest of the receiving corps. Each brings a different skillset. IMO, the staff should figure out how to keep this group on the field. If you are going to rotate receivers, rotate these 5 instead of rotating the normal 8 or 9.

It is very difficult to assess the RBs when averaging less than 2 yards per game, so I won’t.

Defensively:
• #45 is a stud. What can you say about a kid that had three sacks and is in the backfield more than the opposing team’s RB!
• #40 is always terrific. His knack for the ball is simply amazing. When you need a play, 40 can be counted on - every game, every play.
• #99 has really come on nicely. Another year in the weight room is going to turn this solid defender into a dynamic player.
• #32 and #10 are consistently moving in the right direction and can be counted on in run/rush support, need a little refinement in coverage, but are surely athletic enough to do it.
• #49 is developing more and more in the pass rush. You can see there is a little hesitation in scheme and coverage, but as soon as that clicks, he’ll be a dominant player.

Liked the change in the secondary. #13 looks to be a better fit at CB. Getting 14 and 43 into the mix will only help with experience, but the secondary as a whole has to close the gap. Constantly playing off eight yards off the receivers - why? Come on coach… Playing eight off on 3rd and 3…. really?

WCU has a wide open offense. Their QB this year is much better than he was last year. ETSU HAS to find a way to run the ball for more than 2 yards per carry and stay on the field and they HAVE to tighten up coverage. My friends in Cullowhee said they have had this date circled on the calendar since the loss at Bristol. Time to man up and get that first road conference win.
Appreciate the analysis. Please keep looking at us and giving us the opinion. I think I am reading that you think we have an upside and can improve into a much better team.
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I like the name of the game, Blue Ridge Border Battle. They've lost their trophy game with Appalachian, so might as well start one with them.
Perhaps the two schools can get together and design a traveling trophy to play for.
As for the game, we need to go over there and beat their asses. A win here sets up a real shot at a winning record this season.
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Are there odds for our game this Saturday?
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Western is 14 point favorites.
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(10-10-2017 06:02 PM)ETSUfan1 Wrote:  Western is 14 point favorites.

Thanks.
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The underdog wins outright. This is the time.
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Thank you. Discussion of the Bucs starts about the 13:30 mark.
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(10-09-2017 02:02 PM)Spector Wrote:  OK sports fans, I went back to my post before the Mercer Game (9/20/17 at 12:24). I broke down some observations before that game and my post on 10/1/17 at 2:38 after the FU game. If I compare the two posts with the play we saw against MU, FU and RMU, I stand by the observations.
• #4 was a stud at FU, but had no affect against RMU. He may have been injured early on – we saw him being worked out on the sideline in the beginning of the game, but he appeared to be fine on the sidelines. Hope he is ok; the Bucs need him.
• #9 is still inconsistent. Makes a couple great catches and then drops a wide-open standstill TD. Frustrating at times.
• #80 is still that possession receiver that can take it the distance. You have to account for this kid.
• #86 is a stud. He catches everything and is not afraid to go over the middle. He had a couple great catches and YAC! Gotta love that mentality. Has to be #7’s go to guy! The team may want to think about making him the receiving corps’ face for the media.
• #89 continues to make plays down field. He’s not catching the short junk. He is a legitimate downfield threat. The ball he caught on the sideline was a one hander with a DB draped all over him. He’s also a big time blocker. Watched him de-cleat a few LBs and safeties this year (JMU, MU and FU). Had another big hit on a RMU LB that sprung #86.

I don’t remember any TE’s or RBs catching anything this week, but the 5 players mentioned above have separated themselves from the rest of the receiving corps. Each brings a different skillset. IMO, the staff should figure out how to keep this group on the field. If you are going to rotate receivers, rotate these 5 instead of rotating the normal 8 or 9.

It is very difficult to assess the RBs when averaging less than 2 yards per game, so I won’t.

Defensively:
• #45 is a stud. What can you say about a kid that had three sacks and is in the backfield more than the opposing team’s RB!
• #40 is always terrific. His knack for the ball is simply amazing. When you need a play, 40 can be counted on - every game, every play.
• #99 has really come on nicely. Another year in the weight room is going to turn this solid defender into a dynamic player.
• #32 and #10 are consistently moving in the right direction and can be counted on in run/rush support, need a little refinement in coverage, but are surely athletic enough to do it.
• #49 is developing more and more in the pass rush. You can see there is a little hesitation in scheme and coverage, but as soon as that clicks, he’ll be a dominant player.

Liked the change in the secondary. #13 looks to be a better fit at CB. Getting 14 and 43 into the mix will only help with experience, but the secondary as a whole has to close the gap. Constantly playing off eight yards off the receivers - why? Come on coach… Playing eight off on 3rd and 3…. really?

WCU has a wide open offense. Their QB this year is much better than he was last year. ETSU HAS to find a way to run the ball for more than 2 yards per carry and stay on the field and they HAVE to tighten up coverage. My friends in Cullowhee said they have had this date circled on the calendar since the loss at Bristol. Time to man up and get that first road conference win.

What is your opinion of the interior defensive line? It’s my novice opinion they do not provide much of a pass rush. Is that a fair assessment, or am I not considering something? Your analysis is always appreciated.
For the most part the Bucs play a 3/4 and they rotate the linemen in and out to keep them fresh. They DL is undersized especially up the middle. They make up for it by keeping fresh legs out there, but the 3/4 scheme is dependent upon a big NT that can eat up the double team – a fire plug is what you want. The perfect NG is 300+ lbs with short thick legs. You want him to be at least 6’1 an to be able to hold his position along the line to keep the interior linemen from getting to your MLBs. The Bucs don’t have that yet. The 6’2, 275-288 DL are athletic and complement the rotation of the DE, but they need another year in the gym to hold their own. You will see that against Wofford. The big OL will lean on you all day and eventually drive you off the ball; thus converting short yardage and controlling the clock. So in a nutshell, at this moment, the Bucs are better suited to play a team that spreads you out, more than running power G. Note* #40 and #8 complement one another very well in the middle and both flow outside very well.
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Join us for some of the best tailgating in the south. [Image: DLf8osQUMAEurE7.jpg]


Here's a map of lower half of the campus that includes the football stadium. I'd recommend ETSU fans park & tailgate in one of the two baseball parking lots (it free). I recommend you come early as those two lots fill up early. To reach those lots, go to the third light in Cullowhee, turn left, then the first right. http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/wcar...ficMap.pdf

If you have any questions about campus, I'll try to answer them.

The visitors seating is in the east stands, you'll be facing the sun, so sunblock and sunglasses are a must. http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/wcar...iumMap.pdf

....and don't forget, you'll see the best band in the US at halftime, the Pride of the Mountains (last year's show)

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That is a very impressive band! And this is coming from someone with almost no appreciation for most marching bands.
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(10-12-2017 12:51 PM)The Cats Wrote:  Join us for some of the best tailgating in the south. [Image: DLf8osQUMAEurE7.jpg]


Here's a map of lower half of the campus that includes the football stadium. I'd recommend ETSU fans park & tailgate in one of the two baseball parking lots (it free). I recommend you come early as those two lots fill up early. To reach those lots, go to the third light in Cullowhee, turn left, then the first right. http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/wcar...ficMap.pdf

If you have any questions about campus, I'll try to answer them.

The visitors seating is in the east stands, you'll be facing the sun, so sunblock and sunglasses are a must. http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/wcar...iumMap.pdf

....and don't forget, you'll see the best band in the US at halftime, the Pride of the Mountains (last year's show)


Thanks for the info and the hospitality Cats.
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Heading down tomorrow!
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https://amp.citizen-times.com/amp/748824001

Could WCU/ETSU become a rivalry game?
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