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RE: Are P5 programs working with the NCAA?
(10-13-2017 09:35 AM)Dasville Wrote:  And there you have it!


Thank you UNC!


These truly are the Wonder Years!


As far as I know, UNC is not on tape offering $100,000 bribes to potential players.

No allegations of wire fraud, mail fraud, bribery and tax evasion exist in UNC's case.

You are comparing apples to hand grenades.
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RE: Are P5 programs working with the NCAA?
(10-13-2017 11:04 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(10-13-2017 09:35 AM)Dasville Wrote:  And there you have it!


Thank you UNC!


These truly are the Wonder Years!


As far as I know, UNC is not on tape offering $100,000 bribes to potential players.

No allegations of wire fraud, mail fraud, bribery and tax evasion exist in UNC's case.

You are comparing apples to hand grenades.

IMO, from the standpoint of college athletics, what UNC did was worse. UL, et al broke rules by paying players. UNC didn't even try to pretend their athletes were students.

It undermines the whole purpose of having college teams. There's really no purpose.
10-13-2017 11:09 AM
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RE: Are P5 programs working with the NCAA?
(10-13-2017 11:04 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(10-13-2017 09:35 AM)Dasville Wrote:  And there you have it!


Thank you UNC!


These truly are the Wonder Years!


As far as I know, UNC is not on tape offering $100,000 bribes to potential players.

No allegations of wire fraud, mail fraud, bribery and tax evasion exist in UNC's case.

You are comparing apples to hand grenades.

I'm glad you didn't mention UofL by name either TerryD because the FBI sure didn't.
10-13-2017 11:13 AM
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RE: Are P5 programs working with the NCAA?
(10-13-2017 11:09 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(10-13-2017 11:04 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(10-13-2017 09:35 AM)Dasville Wrote:  And there you have it!


Thank you UNC!


These truly are the Wonder Years!


As far as I know, UNC is not on tape offering $100,000 bribes to potential players.

No allegations of wire fraud, mail fraud, bribery and tax evasion exist in UNC's case.

You are comparing apples to hand grenades.

IMO, from the standpoint of college athletics, what UNC did was worse. UL, et al broke rules by paying players. UNC didn't even try to pretend their athletes were students.

It undermines the whole purpose of having college teams. There's really no purpose.

I will make the case that will be made........"It wasn't us, it was the shoe Co and AAU"
10-13-2017 11:15 AM
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RE: Are P5 programs working with the NCAA?
(10-13-2017 11:13 AM)Dasville Wrote:  
(10-13-2017 11:04 AM)TerryD Wrote:  
(10-13-2017 09:35 AM)Dasville Wrote:  And there you have it!


Thank you UNC!


These truly are the Wonder Years!


As far as I know, UNC is not on tape offering $100,000 bribes to potential players.

No allegations of wire fraud, mail fraud, bribery and tax evasion exist in UNC's case.

You are comparing apples to hand grenades.

I'm glad you didn't mention UofL by name either TerryD because the FBI sure didn't.

They didn't mention anyone by name but by # and we know #6 was Louisville since Louisville said so themselves.

http://nypost.com/2017/09/26/fbi-sting-h...rosshairs/

Quote:The FBI complaint includes payments totaling $100,000 to an unnamed recruit by an unnamed school. The facts in the complaint make it clear that the school is Louisville and the recruit, according to multiple reports, is five-star prospect Brian Bowen, who committed to play for Rick Pitino and the Cardinals in June.

ESPN sources confirmed that “School 6” in the complaint is Louisville, and the school later confirmed it with an official statement.
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RE: Are P5 programs working with the NCAA?
(10-11-2017 01:21 PM)TerryD Wrote:  This is a run of the mill FBI investigation into bribery, wire fraud, mail fraud and tax evasion.

The fact that it involves college athletics is irrelevant to this investigation. This is no different than any other white collar crime investigation.

The Feds don't care about the NCAA, individual schools, players, coaches or AD's.

They care about uncovering evidence of crimes and obtaining convictions.

While I generally agree that the FBI is interested in this as a criminal case, FBI agents aren't robots. They're mostly college-educated men, and many of them probably care about college sports.

I'll bet a lot of FBI agents are just as ticked most of us are at the frauds in college sports. If they have to choose between devoting resources to a $100,000 multistate bribery involving college basketball, or a $500,000 multistate bribery involving a big shipping company (or real estate, or accounting, or pretty much anything else), I think they'll choose the sports scandal.
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RE: Are P5 programs working with the NCAA?
(10-16-2017 11:53 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 01:21 PM)TerryD Wrote:  This is a run of the mill FBI investigation into bribery, wire fraud, mail fraud and tax evasion.

The fact that it involves college athletics is irrelevant to this investigation. This is no different than any other white collar crime investigation.

The Feds don't care about the NCAA, individual schools, players, coaches or AD's.

They care about uncovering evidence of crimes and obtaining convictions.

While I generally agree that the FBI is interested in this as a criminal case, FBI agents aren't robots. They're mostly college-educated men, and many of them probably care about college sports.

I'll bet a lot of FBI agents are just as ticked most of us are at the frauds in college sports. If they have to choose between devoting resources to a $100,000 multistate bribery involving college basketball, or a $500,000 multistate bribery involving a big shipping company (or real estate, or accounting, or pretty much anything else), I think they'll choose the sports scandal.
Agreed!04-cheers

Unfortunately, these FBI agents will be picked apart. One tweet or post on some obscure message board will taint the whole investigation. Day by day the FBI is being proven to be partisan on many levels.

Even the highest one.

Damn sham.
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