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RE: Ferris "is not a state" Game 1
(10-10-2017 10:55 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:50 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:47 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:46 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:27 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  As a high powered, urban probate/family court judge I would think you can grasp the meaning of "potential"

Hey DB, long time no see. Just not long enough.

You still using state computers to troll broncos83 brovol?
Ahhh. Charm, not DB. Although I was never convinced the two of you werent the same person (or at least lived together in the same cell or institution).

Charm is a much more astute hockey person than most here, present company included broncos83.

Do you look at yourself in the mirror and tell yourself you are good looking too?
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RE: Ferris "is not a state" Game 1
(10-10-2017 10:57 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:50 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:48 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:28 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 07:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  If NHL talent is what determines the quality of a college conference, then the Big Ten is a better conference than the NCHC, as the B10 had 35 NHL players last year, and the NCHC had 29. I dont think the B10 is a better league than the NCHC, but do you Charm?

NCHC has 57 in the NHL.

Not by what I read. Source? Not "drafted", but "playing" under NHL contract.

NCHC Website, broncos83, er, brovol.

I would be delighted to have the Mods or anyone else assess whether I have ever even once in the many years I have been on this board used any other ID other than this one. It is outrageously pathetic, and quite loser-like to post using another ID. It suggests that you dont take full ownership in what you profess, and is a manifestation of insecurity. I always own what I say. Everyone may disagree with that, but at least I dont hide behind anything. You wish you could say the same. I know you dont have the character to admit it, Charm, but you can still do a self assessment and challenge yourself to be better. Ill say a little prayer for you brother. be at peace.

I can tell when you're rattled, you go off on a rambling, incoherent rant and start deflecting judge. Hope the state doesn't do an audit of your personal web traffic.
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RE: Ferris "is not a state" Game 1
(10-10-2017 10:59 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:57 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:50 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:48 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:28 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  NCHC has 57 in the NHL.

Not by what I read. Source? Not "drafted", but "playing" under NHL contract.

NCHC Website, broncos83, er, brovol.

I would be delighted to have the Mods or anyone else assess whether I have ever even once in the many years I have been on this board used any other ID other than this one. It is outrageously pathetic, and quite loser-like to post using another ID. It suggests that you dont take full ownership in what you profess, and is a manifestation of insecurity. I always own what I say. Everyone may disagree with that, but at least I dont hide behind anything. You wish you could say the same. I know you dont have the character to admit it, Charm, but you can still do a self assessment and challenge yourself to be better. Ill say a little prayer for you brother. be at peace.

I can tell when you're rattled, you go off on a rambling, incoherent rant and start deflecting judge. Hope the state doesn't do an audit of your personal web traffic.

I see you represented to the folks on the EMU board that your son "goes to Army". Interesting. Bet I could expose your lack of "integrity" fairly quickly.
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RE: Ferris "is not a state" Game 1
(10-10-2017 11:36 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:59 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:57 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:50 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:48 AM)brovol Wrote:  Not by what I read. Source? Not "drafted", but "playing" under NHL contract.

NCHC Website, broncos83, er, brovol.

I would be delighted to have the Mods or anyone else assess whether I have ever even once in the many years I have been on this board used any other ID other than this one. It is outrageously pathetic, and quite loser-like to post using another ID. It suggests that you dont take full ownership in what you profess, and is a manifestation of insecurity. I always own what I say. Everyone may disagree with that, but at least I dont hide behind anything. You wish you could say the same. I know you dont have the character to admit it, Charm, but you can still do a self assessment and challenge yourself to be better. Ill say a little prayer for you brother. be at peace.

I can tell when you're rattled, you go off on a rambling, incoherent rant and start deflecting judge. Hope the state doesn't do an audit of your personal web traffic.

I see you represented to the folks on the EMU board that your son "goes to Army". Interesting. Bet I could expose your lack of "integrity" fairly quickly.

You're right, it's annoying when people get on social media and talk about their kids, huh?
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RE: Ferris "is not a state" Game 1
(10-10-2017 11:48 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 11:36 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:59 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:57 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:50 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  NCHC Website, broncos83, er, brovol.

I would be delighted to have the Mods or anyone else assess whether I have ever even once in the many years I have been on this board used any other ID other than this one. It is outrageously pathetic, and quite loser-like to post using another ID. It suggests that you dont take full ownership in what you profess, and is a manifestation of insecurity. I always own what I say. Everyone may disagree with that, but at least I dont hide behind anything. You wish you could say the same. I know you dont have the character to admit it, Charm, but you can still do a self assessment and challenge yourself to be better. Ill say a little prayer for you brother. be at peace.

I can tell when you're rattled, you go off on a rambling, incoherent rant and start deflecting judge. Hope the state doesn't do an audit of your personal web traffic.

I see you represented to the folks on the EMU board that your son "goes to Army". Interesting. Bet I could expose your lack of "integrity" fairly quickly.

You're right, it's annoying when people get on social media and talk about their kids, huh?
Not if they really have kids. What is annoying is when people say something that isnt true because they want others to think they are someone they are not. You dont have a son at West Point, but are telling people on the EMU board that you do. Funny stuff.
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RE: Ferris "is not a state" Game 1
(10-10-2017 01:18 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 11:48 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 11:36 AM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:59 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 10:57 AM)brovol Wrote:  I would be delighted to have the Mods or anyone else assess whether I have ever even once in the many years I have been on this board used any other ID other than this one. It is outrageously pathetic, and quite loser-like to post using another ID. It suggests that you dont take full ownership in what you profess, and is a manifestation of insecurity. I always own what I say. Everyone may disagree with that, but at least I dont hide behind anything. You wish you could say the same. I know you dont have the character to admit it, Charm, but you can still do a self assessment and challenge yourself to be better. Ill say a little prayer for you brother. be at peace.

I can tell when you're rattled, you go off on a rambling, incoherent rant and start deflecting judge. Hope the state doesn't do an audit of your personal web traffic.

I see you represented to the folks on the EMU board that your son "goes to Army". Interesting. Bet I could expose your lack of "integrity" fairly quickly.

You're right, it's annoying when people get on social media and talk about their kids, huh?
Not if they really have kids. What is annoying is when people say something that isnt true because they want others to think they are someone they are not. You dont have a son at West Point, but are telling people on the EMU board that you do. Funny stuff.

No really, it is annoying. Don't kid yourself. Broncos83.
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(10-10-2017 10:57 AM)brovol Wrote:  I would be delighted to have the Mods or anyone else assess whether I have ever even once in the many years I have been on this board used any other ID other than this one. It is outrageously pathetic, and quite loser-like to post using another ID. It suggests that you dont take full ownership in what you profess, and is a manifestation of insecurity. I always own what I say. Everyone may disagree with that, but at least I dont hide behind anything. You wish you could say the same. I know you dont have the character to admit it, Charm, but you can still do a self assessment and challenge yourself to be better. Ill say a little prayer for you brother. be at peace.

I'm flattered you think you're living in my dome enough for me to troll you under a different nick.
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(10-10-2017 10:59 AM)ChicagoMan Wrote:  I can tell when you're rattled, you go off on a rambling, incoherent rant and start deflecting judge. Hope the state doesn't do an audit of your personal web traffic.

Uh oh, you called him judge! Don't go there! See my sig for the threats he'll make. VVVV
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(10-10-2017 07:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  If NHL talent is what determines the quality of a college conference, then the Big Ten is a better conference than the NCHC, as the B10 had 35 NHL players last year, and the NCHC had 29. I dont think the B10 is a better league than the NCHC, but do you Charm?

No, of course I don't. When did I say NHL talent determines the quality of a conference?

Also, stop being so hung up on the new WCHA in its current lineup. Minn St is itching to get out and if they leave, say goodbye to any potential for a future multi-bid. Hell the league might not even exist in 5-10 years. Then what are those schools going to do? Start playing D-3, that's what.

Time to wake up, pal.
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(10-10-2017 06:28 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 07:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  If NHL talent is what determines the quality of a college conference, then the Big Ten is a better conference than the NCHC, as the B10 had 35 NHL players last year, and the NCHC had 29. I dont think the B10 is a better league than the NCHC, but do you Charm?

No, of course I don't. When did I say NHL talent determines the quality of a conference?

Also, stop being so hung up on the new WCHA in its current lineup. Minn St is itching to get out and if they leave, say goodbye to any potential for a future multi-bid. Hell the league might not even exist in 5-10 years. Then what are those schools going to do? Start playing D-3, that's what.

Time to wake up, pal.

At the time ASU and Minn State applied, the NCHC approached BUGS to gauge their interest in joining. BUGS passed. This from the BUGS AD. They seem to like where they are. Back to lurking.
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(10-10-2017 05:26 AM)brovol Wrote:  If the question is which league gives WMU a better chance at making the NCAA, you tell me, is it easier beating out four teams in the nchc, to finish in the top four there, or being in the top two, or even number one in the wcha? Do you all believe that WMU's program wouldn't be at or near the best in the wcha? If so, wouldn't we have been making the NCAA more than once in 4-5 years? And winning more games in the process.

My ultimate goal is not making the NCAA. I want us to compete in the Tourney. Going up against Denver, Duluth, ND, St. Cloud, Omaha, & playing in the Frozen Faceoff each year will prepare us to compete in the Tourney more than playing a few good teams, some mediocre teams, and some bad teams in the WCHA every year.

Last year was a disappointment to lose in the 1st Rd. I wish we could have kept Dries & others healthy. I think there would have been a different result.
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(10-10-2017 06:28 PM)Charm City Bronco Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 07:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  If NHL talent is what determines the quality of a college conference, then the Big Ten is a better conference than the NCHC, as the B10 had 35 NHL players last year, and the NCHC had 29. I dont think the B10 is a better league than the NCHC, but do you Charm?

No, of course I don't. When did I say NHL talent determines the quality of a conference?

Also, stop being so hung up on the new WCHA in its current lineup. Minn St is itching to get out and if they leave, say goodbye to any potential for a future multi-bid. Hell the league might not even exist in 5-10 years. Then what are those schools going to do? Start playing D-3, that's what.

Time to wake up, pal.

Mankato wants in the NCHC in the worst way.
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(10-10-2017 11:48 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 05:26 AM)brovol Wrote:  If the question is which league gives WMU a better chance at making the NCAA, you tell me, is it easier beating out four teams in the nchc, to finish in the top four there, or being in the top two, or even number one in the wcha? Do you all believe that WMU's program wouldn't be at or near the best in the wcha? If so, wouldn't we have been making the NCAA more than once in 4-5 years? And winning more games in the process.

My ultimate goal is not making the NCAA. I want us to compete in the Tourney. Going up against Denver, Duluth, ND, St. Cloud, Omaha, & playing in the Frozen Faceoff each year will prepare us to compete in the Tourney more than playing a few good teams, some mediocre teams, and some bad teams in the WCHA every year.

Last year was a disappointment to lose in the 1st Rd. I wish we could have kept Dries & others healthy. I think there would have been a different result.

Yeah but "Harry, Dan and Bull" don't think we can hang, in fact he gets giddy when we lose so he can get on here and go "neener neener"
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(10-09-2017 08:03 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-09-2017 11:25 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 07:30 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 02:46 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 01:47 PM)brovol Wrote:  Probably best you didn't finish your silly thought, as game two might have exposed that shallow mindedness just makes you look like a mor......

Ah, never mind.

Probably best you don't take a victory lap on a Bronco loss hoping to win an argument you lost a long time ago.
Not a victory lap. My team lost. If you pay a little attention you will see that I said nothing whatsoever and Charm sends his post, clearly in my direction, as if one game into the season he established that WCHA teams cannot compete on the same ice with NCHC teams like WMU. My post was a retort. If you care to discipline for cocky provicating post, do so with the village provocatier, not the guy who is responding to the sucker punch.

And the only way you can say I lost the "argument " is if you think it is a good thing for WMU to finish at or near the bottom of its conference three out of four years, with its best year finishing in third place out of eight. If that is a "win" for you brother, your standards are so low I wouldn't stoop so low as to engage you in an "argument ". But enjoy the glory.
My standard is better hockey. The Broncos clearly have better talent and play better hockey because they are in the best conference in college hockey. It attracts better recruits. We're still relatively early into this, but the freshmen who have entered the picture this year is just another sign of how strong this program is right now. We lost a lot of talent & experience this off-season.

Yes, it's much harder to finish high in the standings in the NCHC than the WCHA. Nobody can dispute that. I'd rather have Bronco hockey compete at a higher level, have the likes of Denver, Duluth, & North Dakota come to Lawson every year rather than drop down to a weaker conference and see inferior opponents. I'd rather be in hockey's SEC over the Sun Belt.

WMU + NCHC = win

Fair enough. I disagree that we have better talent now, and don't think that we will unless we are consistently at or near the top of our conference. That will always be tough in the NCHC. And while you would rather see ND, Denver and Duluth, most folks that come to Bronco hockey games would much rather see a lousy MSU or UM team play at Lawson, and while you and I know those nchc teams are much better hockey schools, to the average bronco fan Duluth is no more game worthy than Michigan Tech. Lastly, while I am the first to agree the NCHC is one of the best if not the best leagues in the country, there is relative parity in college hockey which doesn't exist in football. SEC schools in football generally will destroy Sun Belt schools when they play. Even the best team in the NCHC could lose to an Atlantic Conference or a WCHA team, and they do.

But regardless, we all want the same thing in a solid WMU hockey program that competes consistently for league titles and a chance to make a run in the NCAA tournament. If that happens in the NCHC I am delighted. If it doesn't, and if our hockey program becomes dormant, I will be disappointed,as I was for the first several years in this conference.
BTW...my Sun Belt comparison...this is from a USCHO article today:

"the WCHA’s record winning percentage against other conferences has continued to drop, all the way to a .279 mark a season ago, worst in the nation."

That seems pretty Sun Belt-ish to me.
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(10-10-2017 11:48 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(10-10-2017 05:26 AM)brovol Wrote:  If the question is which league gives WMU a better chance at making the NCAA, you tell me, is it easier beating out four teams in the nchc, to finish in the top four there, or being in the top two, or even number one in the wcha? Do you all believe that WMU's program wouldn't be at or near the best in the wcha? If so, wouldn't we have been making the NCAA more than once in 4-5 years? And winning more games in the process.

My ultimate goal is not making the NCAA. I want us to compete in the Tourney. Going up against Denver, Duluth, ND, St. Cloud, Omaha, & playing in the Frozen Faceoff each year will prepare us to compete in the Tourney more than playing a few good teams, some mediocre teams, and some bad teams in the WCHA every year.

Last year was a disappointment to lose in the 1st Rd. I wish we could have kept Dries & others healthy. I think there would have been a different result.
That's exactly what you all said previous years, and then last year, the first year we make the NCAA tournament, we lose in the first round to an Atlantic Conference team, which is the only League that you all concluded was worse than the WCHA.

The key to advancing in the NCAA tournament is by getting there as often as possible, and going on a run because the stars align and you have a decent team. There is so much parity in college hockey that almost any team that gets in has a chance to make a run. It's kind of similar to the NHL. You need to be playing well and get some good brakes to advance. But that can happen with any of the 16 teams. Some teams seem to win the tournament more than others, and that is partly because they are flat-out just better teams, but it is mostly because they get into the tournament more years than not, and have a better chance of advancing.

This notion that playing better teams makes you more tournament tough is far more overblown than some of you can understand. Good chemistry for a team is what distinguishes more than who the team has played.
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(10-11-2017 12:10 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(10-09-2017 08:03 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-09-2017 11:25 AM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 07:30 PM)brovol Wrote:  
(10-08-2017 02:46 PM)BroncoMinor Wrote:  Probably best you don't take a victory lap on a Bronco loss hoping to win an argument you lost a long time ago.
Not a victory lap. My team lost. If you pay a little attention you will see that I said nothing whatsoever and Charm sends his post, clearly in my direction, as if one game into the season he established that WCHA teams cannot compete on the same ice with NCHC teams like WMU. My post was a retort. If you care to discipline for cocky provicating post, do so with the village provocatier, not the guy who is responding to the sucker punch.

And the only way you can say I lost the "argument " is if you think it is a good thing for WMU to finish at or near the bottom of its conference three out of four years, with its best year finishing in third place out of eight. If that is a "win" for you brother, your standards are so low I wouldn't stoop so low as to engage you in an "argument ". But enjoy the glory.
My standard is better hockey. The Broncos clearly have better talent and play better hockey because they are in the best conference in college hockey. It attracts better recruits. We're still relatively early into this, but the freshmen who have entered the picture this year is just another sign of how strong this program is right now. We lost a lot of talent & experience this off-season.

Yes, it's much harder to finish high in the standings in the NCHC than the WCHA. Nobody can dispute that. I'd rather have Bronco hockey compete at a higher level, have the likes of Denver, Duluth, & North Dakota come to Lawson every year rather than drop down to a weaker conference and see inferior opponents. I'd rather be in hockey's SEC over the Sun Belt.

WMU + NCHC = win

Fair enough. I disagree that we have better talent now, and don't think that we will unless we are consistently at or near the top of our conference. That will always be tough in the NCHC. And while you would rather see ND, Denver and Duluth, most folks that come to Bronco hockey games would much rather see a lousy MSU or UM team play at Lawson, and while you and I know those nchc teams are much better hockey schools, to the average bronco fan Duluth is no more game worthy than Michigan Tech. Lastly, while I am the first to agree the NCHC is one of the best if not the best leagues in the country, there is relative parity in college hockey which doesn't exist in football. SEC schools in football generally will destroy Sun Belt schools when they play. Even the best team in the NCHC could lose to an Atlantic Conference or a WCHA team, and they do.

But regardless, we all want the same thing in a solid WMU hockey program that competes consistently for league titles and a chance to make a run in the NCAA tournament. If that happens in the NCHC I am delighted. If it doesn't, and if our hockey program becomes dormant, I will be disappointed,as I was for the first several years in this conference.
BTW...my Sun Belt comparison...this is from a USCHO article today:

"the WCHA’s record winning percentage against other conferences has continued to drop, all the way to a .279 mark a season ago, worst in the nation."

That seems pretty Sun Belt-ish to me.
Comparing hockey conferences with college football conferences simply does not hold water. But if, for argument's sake, you think that if Western Michigan got an offer to join the SEC in football that we should take that, you have a naivety with respect to college sports which clearly compromises your credibility here my friend. If Western were to be in the SEC, we would simply be guaranteeing finishing in last place just about every year. Even the worst teams in the SEC have athletic budgets which are probably triple westerns budget, have huge stadiums, enormous fan bases, and so many other advantages over what we would be able to establish, even if we wished to broaden our horizons, and had a commitment to competing.
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I know
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(10-10-2017 06:56 PM)#1Lurker Wrote:  At the time ASU and Minn State applied, the NCHC approached BUGS to gauge their interest in joining. BUGS passed. This from the BUGS AD. They seem to like where they are. Back to lurking.

Not surprising regarding BG, they probably can't afford the NCHC travel. New WCHA is many more bus rides.
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RE: Ferris "is not a state" Game 1
(10-11-2017 05:23 AM)brovol Wrote:  That's exactly what you all said previous years, and then last year, the first year we make the NCAA tournament, we lose in the first round to an Atlantic Conference team, which is the only League that you all concluded was worse than the WCHA.

The key to advancing in the NCAA tournament is by getting there as often as possible, and going on a run because the stars align and you have a decent team. There is so much parity in college hockey that almost any team that gets in has a chance to make a run. It's kind of similar to the NHL. You need to be playing well and get some good brakes to advance. But that can happen with any of the 16 teams. Some teams seem to win the tournament more than others, and that is partly because they are flat-out just better teams, but it is mostly because they get into the tournament more years than not, and have a better chance of advancing.

This notion that playing better teams makes you more tournament tough is far more overblown than some of you can understand. Good chemistry for a team is what distinguishes more than who the team has played.
I'm for the NCHC, but I agree with the bolded.

And that's specifically what we saw last season when we made the Tournament: Played a just-as-good AFA team where some bounces didn't go our way.

BUT: We actually have a higher shot of making the Tourney in the NCHC. Couple years ago 5/8 teams went. The WCHA is a 1, 2-max bid league. You get a good year, you make the Tournament, then next year you come in second, then third, then second, then maybe even 5th the next year. In the WCHA you have to get that coveted first or you're not making it. What if we have a couple dangerous recruiting classes and finish cellar-dwellers. Then we're not just losing to NoDak/Denver/Duluth, we're losing to everyone: the top WCHA, the NCHC, even most of the WCHA. We lose all credentials.

Also, I stand by the NCHC was the best move because the WCHA teams may, at some point, have to say 'we have to cut hockey,' or 'we're the only WCHA team that hasn't cut hockey and now need to try to find a Conference that'll take us.' WMU said 'no, we want to compete in hockey' and so joined the NCHC. We want to be a hockey school.

Look at the various football re-alignments. At one point many schools had to make the choice - do we stay in this Conference or do we jump to this Conference where we may not be as good, but it's a better Conference overall.

A look at head coach - not to get on Andy Murray's tail - would have to be considered at least a couple times before making the choice to drop to the WCHA.
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10-11-2017 06:13 PM
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Post: #60
RE: Ferris "is not a state" Game 1
It wouldn't shock me to at some point see the NCHC and at least the most committed WCHA schools merge, and then have an East and West division, to help with some travel costs. It would not hurt the nchc brand, as all its marquee schools would remain. Just pure speculation.
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