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Poll: Which of these matchups do you believe are essential rivalries?
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Baylor/Texas
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California/USC
Central Michigan/Eastern Michigan
Central Michigan/Western Michigan
Clemson/Georgia Tech
Clemson/NC State
Duke/Georgia Tech
Duke/Virginia
Duke/Wake Forest
Eastern Michigan/Western Michigan
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Essential FBS Rivalries? (Poll #1)
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Essential FBS Rivalries? (Poll #1)
Poll #2: http://csnbbs.com/thread-829176.html
Poll #3: http://csnbbs.com/thread-829328.html

As I explored in a previous thread, there are 84 pairs of FBS teams that have played one another annually for at least 30 years and are still actively playing one another. Some are very obviously what one would call "essential" rivalries, meaning both teams would likely seek to retain the matchup each year even in the event of a realignment that separated them into different divisions or conferences. In some cases, this has already happened, or they were never in the same conference/division to begin with.

Other pairs aren't particularly essential and may primarily be the result of sharing a conference/division and not any strong desire to play. These matchups would be sacrificed as annual games in the event of a realignment that separated the teams.

The line between essential and non-essential is rather blurry, so I thought I'd post a poll to see what the realignment forum thinks. Actually, I have to post two polls, because the limit on poll options is 16.

Here are the matchups which may or may not be essential. The year in parentheses is the first year of the current run of annual matchups.

Air Force/Wyoming (1980)
Alabama/LSU (1964)
Alabama/Mississippi State (1948)
Arkansas/Ole Miss (1981)
Baylor/Texas (1945)
Baylor/Texas Tech (1956)
California/USC (1926)
Central Michigan/Eastern Michigan (1972)
Central Michigan/Western Michigan (1973)
Clemson/Georgia Tech (1983)
Clemson/NC State (1971)
Duke/Georgia Tech (1933)
Duke/Virginia (1963)
Duke/Wake Forest (1967)
Eastern Michigan/Western Michigan (1978)
Florida/LSU (1971)
Georgia/Vanderbilt (1968)
Iowa/Minnesota (1931)
Iowa State/Kansas State (1917)
Kentucky/Tennessee (1944)
Kentucky/Vanderbilt (1953)
LSU/Mississippi State (1944)
LSU/Ole Miss (1945)
NC State/Wake Forest (1910)
North Carolina/Virginia (1919)
Ole Miss/Vanderbilt (1970)
Pittsburgh/Syracuse (1955)
Stanford/UCLA (1946)
Texas/Texas Tech (1960)
Toledo/Western Michigan (1950)

These are what I would consider essential rivalries:

Air Force/Army (1971)
Air Force/Colorado State (1978)
Air Force/Navy (1972)
Alabama/Auburn (1948)
Alabama/Tennessee (1944)
Arizona/Arizona State (1946)
Army/Navy (1930)
Auburn/Georgia (1944)
Bowling Green/Toledo (1948)
California/Stanford (1946)
California/UCLA (1933)
Cincinnati/Miami-OH (1945)
Clemson/South Carolina (1909)
Colorado State/Wyoming (1946)
Duke/North Carolina (1922)
Florida/Florida State (1958)
Florida/Georgia (1944)
Florida State/Miami-FL (1969)
Georgia/Georgia Tech (1925)
Illinois/Northwestern (1927)
Indiana/Purdue (1920)
Iowa/Iowa State (1977)
Kansas/Kansas State (1911)
Miami-OH/Ohio (1945)
Michigan/Michigan State (1945)
Michigan/Ohio State (1918)
Minnesota/Wisconsin (1907)
Navy/Notre Dame (1927)
New Mexico/New Mexico State (1946)
NC State/North Carolina (1953)
Notre Dame/USC (1946)
Oklahoma/Oklahoma State (1910)
Oklahoma/Texas (1929)
Mississippi State/Ole Miss (1944)
Oregon/Oregon State (1945)
Tennessee/Vanderbilt (1945)
Stanford/USC (1946)
UCLA/USC (1936)
Virginia/Virginia Tech (1970)
Washington/Washington State (1945)

And I'm fairly certain these are not essential:

Auburn/Mississippi State (1955)
Ball State/Central Michigan (1977)
Ball State/Eastern Michigan (1973)
Ball State/Toledo (1975)
Central Michigan/Toledo (1975)
Clemson/Wake Forest (1953)
Eastern Michigan/Toledo (1977)
Florida/Kentucky (1967)
Georgia/Kentucky (1956)
Georgia Tech/North Carolina (1980)
Georgia Tech/Virginia (1982)
Iowa State/Kansas (1932)
Kent State/Miami-OH (1955)
Kent State/Ohio (1949)
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RE: Essential FBS Rivalries? (Part 1 of 2)
(10-06-2017 12:22 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Cincinnati/Miami-OH (1945)

Cincinnati has played Miami annually since 1909. The only exception is 1943 & 1944, when Cincinnati didn't field a team due to the war (neither did Baylor, Michigan State, Syracuse, BYU, or more than half of the current SEC, PAC, & MWC)

However, it is not an essential rivalry for college football.
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RE: Essential FBS Rivalries? (Part 1 of 2)
(10-06-2017 01:28 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 12:22 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Cincinnati/Miami-OH (1945)

Cincinnati has played Miami annually since 1909. The only exception is 1943 & 1944, when Cincinnati didn't field a team due to the war (neither did Baylor, Michigan State, Syracuse, BYU, or more than half of the current SEC, PAC, & MWC)

However, it is not an essential rivalry for college football.

Yes, I was counting consecutive years, even if the war interfered with play. Each pair only needed 30 years to make the list anyway.

I understand it's a fairly one-sided rivalry, but Cincinnati and Miami have been going out of their way to play every year despite not sharing a conference for decades. That's a particularly good indication of an essential rivalry as defined here, even if it's not especially strong.
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RE: Essential FBS Rivalries? (Part 1 of 2)
Pitt-WVU
Cincy-Louisville
Cuse-Rutgers
Notre Dame-BC
BC-UConn
WVU-VT
PSU-Pitt
Maryland-UVA
Rutgers-UConn
USF-UCF
TCU-SMU
Memphis-Louisville
Cincy-Pitt
Rutgers-Temple
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RE: Essential FBS Rivalries? (Part 1 of 2)
WMU/CMU is a major rivalry in the MAC. Top 3 easy (in the MAC).
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RE: Essential FBS Rivalries? (Part 1 of 2)
LSU-Florida and LSU-Ole Miss pop out to me

If LSU had a constant, stable rivalry, I'd say Ole Miss

Florida, Alabama and Arkansas are all top rivals of LSU as well...Florida might not see it the same though, just because they have other more important rivals, such as FSU, Georgia and Tennessee
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RE: Essential FBS Rivalries? (Part 1 of 2)
(10-06-2017 12:22 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  North Carolina/Virginia (1919)

Easily should be on the essential list.
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RE: Essential FBS Rivalries? (Part 1 of 2)
3 XMU's
2 SWC rivalries
Non-GA Tech ACC rivalries
Cal-USC
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Essential FBS Rivalries? (Part 1 of 2)
While mandatory, Neither Army or Navy consider the games versus the AFA essential.
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RE: Essential FBS Rivalries? (Part 1 of 2)
Clemson's essential rivalries that meet this criteria are these:

Clemson Vs South Carolina
Clemson vs Georgia Tech

Clemson vs NC State is not a rivalry and nobody considers it essential.
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