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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
(10-05-2017 05:03 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 05:01 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 04:41 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 04:28 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The bill that has passed the House makes an exception for life endangerment of the mother.

Basically, we're joining the rest of the civilized world (including liberal Europe) and putting a restriction on how late in the pregnancy.

Of course, groups like Planned Parenthood (who insist late term abortions are rare) have no recourse except to claim some kind of slippery slope fallacy.

Most of those civilized countries don't allow their subjects to own guns either.

I don't the federal government has the right to do anything on this.

If the federal government has no say on life & death then why do we have laws against murder?

I didn't say we couldn't have laws on this. I said I don't think the federal government has the authority to do anything on this. I fail to see where this power is granted to them.

Roe Vs Wade. The very decision so many on your side of the debate can't imagine being overturned is the very act that gave the federal government this authority.

It specifically defined 'the state's interest' in protecting the lives of the unborn and established that date as 'viability'. At SOME point I suspect science will make it such that 'viability' will begin at conception and abortion under roe vs wade will be effectively illegal. Certainly 'viability' will continue to be moved earlier. That's what RvW did, and not the 'made abortion legal' that most of its supporters seem to believe
10-13-2017 10:22 AM
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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
(10-13-2017 10:22 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 05:03 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 05:01 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 04:41 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 04:28 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  The bill that has passed the House makes an exception for life endangerment of the mother.

Basically, we're joining the rest of the civilized world (including liberal Europe) and putting a restriction on how late in the pregnancy.

Of course, groups like Planned Parenthood (who insist late term abortions are rare) have no recourse except to claim some kind of slippery slope fallacy.

Most of those civilized countries don't allow their subjects to own guns either.

I don't the federal government has the right to do anything on this.

If the federal government has no say on life & death then why do we have laws against murder?

I didn't say we couldn't have laws on this. I said I don't think the federal government has the authority to do anything on this. I fail to see where this power is granted to them.

Roe Vs Wade. The very decision so many on your side of the debate can't imagine being overturned is the very act that gave the federal government this authority.

It specifically defined 'the state's interest' in protecting the lives of the unborn and established that date as 'viability'. At SOME point I suspect science will make it such that 'viability' will begin at conception and abortion under roe vs wade will be effectively illegal. Certainly 'viability' will continue to be moved earlier. That's what RvW did, and not the 'made abortion legal' that most of its supporters seem to believe

science is already there to squash that 'concept'.....it's called "the day after pill"

science is already there to conceive 'in vitro' or clone (the latter just hasn't happened legally yet)

science may one day create, "poof, there it is".....that would be the easiest route......

however, I seriously doubt that happens for a millennia.......

therefore, what is important du jour????

lest not forget about the "Almighty".....
10-13-2017 10:45 AM
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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
(10-13-2017 09:33 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  The body has a way of shutting all that pregnancy stuff from rape down.

Amirite!

Here's the problem with this logic (and I agree this is an exception)... these instances - rape, incest, mother's health, etc represent a minuscule # of abortions. Most abortions occur as a method of birth control.

https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default...711005.pdf

Look at page 4
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