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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
HIPPA laws....... enough said. You have zero right to tell someone how to live their lives. This is a decision between a Dr and the family. Only God can judge. Not you! 1 out of 4 pregnancies have some type of chromosomal issue. Most of these are miscarried.
10-06-2017 05:46 AM
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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
Murder is a crime. Government now has power it shouldn't have telling women they can ignore a universal law and murder their own children. Who the **** gave that power to government. How is that not WAY overstepping the powers granted to them.
10-06-2017 07:11 AM
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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
(10-06-2017 05:46 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  HIPPA laws....... enough said. You have zero right to tell someone how to live their lives. This is a decision between a Dr and the family. Only God can judge. Not you! 1 out of 4 pregnancies have some type of chromosomal issue. Most of these are miscarried.
God WILL judge.

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10-06-2017 07:20 AM
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What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
(10-05-2017 10:11 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 09:17 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:22 PM)Claw Wrote:  Do you really want the government making your wife's medical decisions?

That's where this ends. The state statistics say procedure a is more likely to keep your baby alive so your doctor will have no legal choice in treatment.

I want the government to protect innocent life.

Can they do it better than you? You need to really think about that.

Once you let them have that power, you will never regain control. Sure, today maybe it's no abortion past 20 weeks. But what will it be after that? Once you concede they have that power, they can change the rules. Then you are powerless.

are for universal healthcare?
10-06-2017 08:18 AM
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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
(10-06-2017 08:18 AM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 10:11 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 09:17 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:22 PM)Claw Wrote:  Do you really want the government making your wife's medical decisions?

That's where this ends. The state statistics say procedure a is more likely to keep your baby alive so your doctor will have no legal choice in treatment.

I want the government to protect innocent life.

Can they do it better than you? You need to really think about that.

Once you let them have that power, you will never regain control. Sure, today maybe it's no abortion past 20 weeks. But what will it be after that? Once you concede they have that power, they can change the rules. Then you are powerless.

are for universal healthcare?

Me? Hell no.
10-06-2017 09:15 AM
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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
(10-05-2017 10:11 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 09:17 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:22 PM)Claw Wrote:  Do you really want the government making your wife's medical decisions?

That's where this ends. The state statistics say procedure a is more likely to keep your baby alive so your doctor will have no legal choice in treatment.

I want the government to protect innocent life.

Can they do it better than you? You need to really think about that.

Once you let them have that power, you will never regain control. Sure, today maybe it's no abortion past 20 weeks. But what will it be after that? Once you concede they have that power, they can change the rules. Then you are powerless.

They already have that power. Abortion is generally banned in the 3rd trimester. Roe v. Wade was a "legislative" compromise that only limited laws on abortion prior to what was considered viability at that time. The time frame of "viability" has moved forward with technology.
10-06-2017 12:25 PM
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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
(10-06-2017 12:25 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 10:11 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 09:17 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:22 PM)Claw Wrote:  Do you really want the government making your wife's medical decisions?

That's where this ends. The state statistics say procedure a is more likely to keep your baby alive so your doctor will have no legal choice in treatment.

I want the government to protect innocent life.

Can they do it better than you? You need to really think about that.

Once you let them have that power, you will never regain control. Sure, today maybe it's no abortion past 20 weeks. But what will it be after that? Once you concede they have that power, they can change the rules. Then you are powerless.

They already have that power. Abortion is generally banned in the 3rd trimester. Roe v. Wade was a "legislative" compromise that only limited laws on abortion prior to what was considered viability at that time. The time frame of "viability" has moved forward with technology.

If that is true, how are doctors getting away with partial birth abortion?
10-06-2017 12:51 PM
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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
(10-06-2017 12:51 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(10-06-2017 12:25 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 10:11 PM)Claw Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 09:17 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  
(10-05-2017 08:22 PM)Claw Wrote:  Do you really want the government making your wife's medical decisions?

That's where this ends. The state statistics say procedure a is more likely to keep your baby alive so your doctor will have no legal choice in treatment.

I want the government to protect innocent life.

Can they do it better than you? You need to really think about that.

Once you let them have that power, you will never regain control. Sure, today maybe it's no abortion past 20 weeks. But what will it be after that? Once you concede they have that power, they can change the rules. Then you are powerless.

They already have that power. Abortion is generally banned in the 3rd trimester. Roe v. Wade was a "legislative" compromise that only limited laws on abortion prior to what was considered viability at that time. The time frame of "viability" has moved forward with technology.

If that is true, how are doctors getting away with partial birth abortion?

The laws aren't the same in every state.
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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
Also boys sometimes chromosomal problems don’t pop up until after the 20th week. We didn’t even know there was an issue until the 5th month. They saw a bubble on the umbilical cord and then they ordered an ambioscentisis. Remember it like it was yesterday. We had a day to decide whether to terminate the pregnancy. That was a fun ride home. Just trust me. The govt and you have now business in telling a family what they should do with their lives. Can any of you pro lifers think for a second the hidden resentment you would have if you were forced to care for a child that needed 24-7 nursing care? That HAS to be a decision YOU made not anybody else.
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RE: What's wrong with banning abortion after 20 weeks?
It's not an either or, murder/care for a baby you don't want. You don't want to care for a baby, no one is going to force you to. Leave the hospital without it. **** off and go have a wonderful life.

Jeez, it's none of my godamn business if a man tires of his wife and shoots her. 01-wingedeagle

Most spouses would leave. The other option, murder, gets you life in prison, possibly death. Because, well, like snuffing out the life of your innocent child, it's MURDER.
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