I rewatched the first 1 1/2 quarters of the UCF game - we coulda/shoulda been up 21-6 early on. Wheels just came off. The team understands they can still win the West and head into a rematch with UCF. I like our odds! This is Memphis, after all - we know how to bounce back from getting knocked down.

Go Tigers!

Ya, there were a few plays that just killed the momentum and spirit of the team. If Riley does not fumble on the 5 yard line and we walk away with just a field goal that likely would have dramatically changed the game. Maybe we do not win but I doubt we would have been blown out...

That is not to imply this was all on Riley, just one example of a few plays that could have changed the competitiveness of the game IMO.

(10-03-2017 09:58 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  Ya, there were a few plays that just killed the momentum and spirit of the team. If Riley does not fumble on the 5 yard line and we walk away with just a field goal that likely would have dramatically changed the game. Maybe we do not win but I doubt we would have been blown out...

That is not to imply this was all on Riley, just one example of a few plays that could have changed the competitiveness of the game IMO.

I'm pretty sure Riely didn't call that dumba$$ double fake handoff play. Whoever did should have their pay docked this week.

Darrell Henderson carried the ball 6 times for 50 yards. Why not just hand off to him? And do that again about 25 more times?

(10-03-2017 09:58 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  Ya, there were a few plays that just killed the momentum and spirit of the team. If Riley does not fumble on the 5 yard line and we walk away with just a field goal that likely would have dramatically changed the game. Maybe we do not win but I doubt we would have been blown out...

That is not to imply this was all on Riley, just one example of a few plays that could have changed the competitiveness of the game IMO.

Understand what you're saying. I gotta admit that after drinking at a friend's house all afternoon and watching UGA/ TN and then the Tiger game, I don't remember much about us getting our a$$ kicked. After going back through the play by play on ESPN website, we really didn't get "dominated" as bad as I thought. Fumbled at their 5 and still had the ball at our own 40 only down 2 points with 5:00 to go in the 1st half. The red zone fumble, a 3 & out punt taking 0:25 off the clock, allowing a 96 yard TD run, and another INT kind of did us in. Snowballed in 2nd half with punt & 2 INTs on 1st 3 possessions.

Probably need to focus on the run game more going forward. Run it, slow the game down, keep our defense off the field as much as possible.

(10-03-2017 11:33 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 09:58 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  Ya, there were a few plays that just killed the momentum and spirit of the team. If Riley does not fumble on the 5 yard line and we walk away with just a field goal that likely would have dramatically changed the game. Maybe we do not win but I doubt we would have been blown out...

That is not to imply this was all on Riley, just one example of a few plays that could have changed the competitiveness of the game IMO.

Understand what you're saying. I gotta admit that after drinking at a friend's house all afternoon and watching UGA/ TN and then the Tiger game, I don't remember much about us getting our a$$ kicked. After going back through the play by play on ESPN website, we really didn't get "dominated" as bad as I thought. Fumbled at their 5 and still had the ball at our own 40 only down 2 points with 5:00 to go in the 1st half. The red zone fumble, a 3 & out punt taking 0:25 off the clock, allowing a 96 yard TD run, and another INT kind of did us in. Snowballed in 2nd half with punt & 2 INTs on 1st 3 possessions.

Probably need to focus on the run game more going forward. Run it, slow the game down, keep our defense off the field as much as possible.

I have a feeling that's where the focus will be this week. It'll be vital that we keep the defense off the field as much as we can against Navy (that's true against any team, but especially so with Navy), so I've got to believe that we'll see a lot of run game against UConn in preparation for Navy.

(10-03-2017 12:46 PM)tcountytigerfan Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 11:33 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 09:58 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  Ya, there were a few plays that just killed the momentum and spirit of the team. If Riley does not fumble on the 5 yard line and we walk away with just a field goal that likely would have dramatically changed the game. Maybe we do not win but I doubt we would have been blown out...

That is not to imply this was all on Riley, just one example of a few plays that could have changed the competitiveness of the game IMO.

Understand what you're saying. I gotta admit that after drinking at a friend's house all afternoon and watching UGA/ TN and then the Tiger game, I don't remember much about us getting our a$$ kicked. After going back through the play by play on ESPN website, we really didn't get "dominated" as bad as I thought. Fumbled at their 5 and still had the ball at our own 40 only down 2 points with 5:00 to go in the 1st half. The red zone fumble, a 3 & out punt taking 0:25 off the clock, allowing a 96 yard TD run, and another INT kind of did us in. Snowballed in 2nd half with punt & 2 INTs on 1st 3 possessions.

Probably need to focus on the run game more going forward. Run it, slow the game down, keep our defense off the field as much as possible.

I have a feeling that's where the focus will be this week. It'll be vital that we keep the defense off the field as much as we can against Navy (that's true against any team, but especially so with Navy), so I've got to believe that we'll see a lot of run game against UConn in preparation for Navy.

That is the biggest issue I have with our offense. It is great to score a lot (in theory) but it often leaves our defense on the field way too much. With either tend to score fast or seem to go three and out a lot. A weak defense plus a lot of time on the field is usually going to have a bad end result. We really do need to focus more on ball control and at least minimizing three and outs.

(10-03-2017 10:28 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 09:58 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  Ya, there were a few plays that just killed the momentum and spirit of the team. If Riley does not fumble on the 5 yard line and we walk away with just a field goal that likely would have dramatically changed the game. Maybe we do not win but I doubt we would have been blown out...

That is not to imply this was all on Riley, just one example of a few plays that could have changed the competitiveness of the game IMO.

I'm pretty sure Riely didn't call that dumba$$ double fake handoff play. Whoever did should have their pay docked this week.

Darrell Henderson carried the ball 6 times for 50 yards. Why not just hand off to him? And do that again about 25 more times?

I assume he did not as well... This is part of having a young, first-time head coach. He make some bad calls, make some bad game plans and so on. The great ones simply learn from their mistakes and get better. It appears to me that Norvell will learn from his mistakes and continue to get better.

Running the ball is great if it actually works. Henderson is the only back that had any success against UCF. As a team we averaged barely over 3 yards/carry. We will have to do better than that if we plan on switching to a run heavy/ball control offense.

(10-03-2017 01:35 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Running the ball is great if it actually works. Henderson is the only back that had any success against UCF. As a team we averaged barely over 3 yards/carry. We will have to do better than that if we plan on switching to a run heavy/ball control offense.

Looked that up and I must have been really drunk during the game b/c the box score says Swamp Donkey had 1 carry for 4 yards. Certainly don't remember that although at around 30-7, I think we switched to Ole Miss- Bama.

edit: Coxie is gonna be a good one, too.

I think we should onside kick every time and go for every 4th down.

(10-03-2017 02:02 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I think we should onside kick every time and go for every 4th down.

You would be a fan of the Pulaski Academy coach in Little Rock, AR. That is exactly what he does...

(10-03-2017 02:58 PM)Tygrys Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 02:02 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I think we should onside kick every time and go for every 4th down.

You would be a fan of the Pulaski Academy coach in Little Rock, AR. That is exactly what he does...

Yeah. I saw a story on that.

I was half kidding about us doing it. But, only half...

I read some university research on football probabilities a few years back. I believe they concluded that a team would be better to go for it on most 4th downs, and to go for 2 after each TD. Can't remember about on-side kicks.

(10-03-2017 10:28 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 09:58 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  Ya, there were a few plays that just killed the momentum and spirit of the team. If Riley does not fumble on the 5 yard line and we walk away with just a field goal that likely would have dramatically changed the game. Maybe we do not win but I doubt we would have been blown out...

That is not to imply this was all on Riley, just one example of a few plays that could have changed the competitiveness of the game IMO.

I'm pretty sure Riely didn't call that dumba$$ double fake handoff play. Whoever did should have their pay docked this week.

Darrell Henderson carried the ball 6 times for 50 yards. Why not just hand off to him? And do that again about 25 more times?

Henderson should be playing much more. More than Taylor for sure.

(10-03-2017 10:28 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 09:58 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  Ya, there were a few plays that just killed the momentum and spirit of the team. If Riley does not fumble on the 5 yard line and we walk away with just a field goal that likely would have dramatically changed the game. Maybe we do not win but I doubt we would have been blown out...

That is not to imply this was all on Riley, just one example of a few plays that could have changed the competitiveness of the game IMO.

I'm pretty sure Riely didn't call that dumba$$ double fake handoff play. Whoever did should have their pay docked this week.

Darrell Henderson carried the ball 6 times for 50 yards. Why not just hand off to him? And do that again about 25 more times?

Our O/C has orange DNA---explains it all.

(10-03-2017 05:35 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  I read some university research on football probabilities a few years back. I believe they concluded that a team would be better to go for it on most 4th downs, and to go for 2 after each TD. Can't remember about on-side kicks.

The idea behind onside kicks is basically that field position is highly overrated. So, giving the ball to a team at the 50 is actually not much worse than letting them run it out to the 25 or so, especially since you can potentially get the ball back. Of course, this is a high school coach where most high schools do not have kids that can consistently make 40+ yard field goals.

(10-03-2017 06:19 PM)tigerlands Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 10:28 AM)tiger86 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 09:58 AM)Tygrys Wrote:  Ya, there were a few plays that just killed the momentum and spirit of the team. If Riley does not fumble on the 5 yard line and we walk away with just a field goal that likely would have dramatically changed the game. Maybe we do not win but I doubt we would have been blown out...

That is not to imply this was all on Riley, just one example of a few plays that could have changed the competitiveness of the game IMO.

I'm pretty sure Riely didn't call that dumba$$ double fake handoff play. Whoever did should have their pay docked this week.

Darrell Henderson carried the ball 6 times for 50 yards. Why not just hand off to him? And do that again about 25 more times?

Henderson should be playing much more. More than Taylor for sure.

Taylor is a hoss, too. Need that 1-2 punch. 50% DH, 40% PT, 10% others - IMO

(10-03-2017 01:52 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 01:35 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Running the ball is great if it actually works. Henderson is the only back that had any success against UCF. As a team we averaged barely over 3 yards/carry. We will have to do better than that if we plan on switching to a run heavy/ball control offense.

Looked that up and I must have been really drunk during the game b/c the box score says Swamp Donkey had 1 carry for 4 yards. Certainly don't remember that although at around 30-7, I think we switched to Ole Miss- Bama.

edit: Coxie is gonna be a good one, too.

Donkey ran for 1st down on fake punt

Henderson should be playing much more. More than Taylor for sure.

Taylor is a hoss, too. Need that 1-2 punch. 50% DH, 40% PT, 10% others - IMO
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Henderson got banged up in the UCF game and that limited his touches. I believe that is why we saw Dorceus n the 4th qtr.

I do think that Henderson, Taylor and Dorceus as a group should get more carries, as long as it isn't run 1st & 2nd down, pass on 3rd every time.

(10-04-2017 11:38 AM)Unionman76 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 01:52 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 01:35 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  Running the ball is great if it actually works. Henderson is the only back that had any success against UCF. As a team we averaged barely over 3 yards/carry. We will have to do better than that if we plan on switching to a run heavy/ball control offense.

Looked that up and I must have been really drunk during the game b/c the box score says Swamp Donkey had 1 carry for 4 yards. Certainly don't remember that although at around 30-7, I think we switched to Ole Miss- Bama.

edit: Coxie is gonna be a good one, too.

Donkey ran for 1st down on fake punt

even further proof of my level of intoxication. No idea we ran a fake punt
lol