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Poll: Which of the following gun violence events would you end for a calendar year?
End all mass shooting instances for a year.
End all Chicago shooting instances for a year.
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Hypothetical Scenario

Let's say we can wave a magic wand and -- poof! -- it's done.

Which one scenario would you do away with:
1. Stop all mass shooting events in the U.S. for one full calendar year, or
2. Stop all shooting events in Chicago for one full calendar year?

Hypothetical -- you can only pick one.




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GUN CONTROL? The Las Vegas Death Toll Happens Every MONTH In Chicago
By Joseph Curl
October 3, 2017

Quote:The murder toll in Las Vegas on Sunday makes it the deadliest mass shooting in U.S. history.

Know what they call that in Chicago? June.

Actually, there were 84 murders in Chicago, just in June, according to DNAinfo.com, which keeps a running tally.
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Stop all mass shooting for one calendar year.


The reason is simply.

100% of the victims in Las Vegas were innocent.

In Chicago, most of those shooting are gun battles between rival gangs.
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(10-03-2017 02:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Stop all mass shooting for one calendar year.


The reason is simply.

100% of the victims in Las Vegas were innocent.

In Chicago, most of those shooting are gun battles between rival gangs.

But those are disadvantaged youth who don't know any other way of life. Sometimes they are forced to commit those murders, or be murdered themselves for not joining their gangs. No father-figures there to prevent their sons (and these days, daughters) from getting mixed up in gangs.
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I would say that any approach that doesn't make a significant impact on both is a mistake.
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You can't stop either without complete and total confiscation of all firearms from both innocent citizens and guilty criminals. Which is, of course, improbable, physically impossible, and perfectly un-Constitutional.

As such I have long ago reconciled the reality of gun violence with the the importance of the 2nd Amendment.
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(10-03-2017 02:53 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  You can't stop either without complete and total confiscation of all firearms from both innocent citizens and guilty criminals. Which is, of course, improbable, physically impossible, and perfectly un-Constitutional.

As such I have long ago reconciled the reality of gun violence with the the importance of the 2nd Amendment.

You are not playing the game. The object of THIS game is to state which group of citizens are worth more: White Country Music fans, or Black inner city youth.
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(10-03-2017 02:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Stop all mass shooting for one calendar year.


The reason is simply.

100% of the victims in Las Vegas were innocent.

In Chicago, most of those shooting are gun battles between rival gangs.

If you add up all the innocents show in Chicago in a year, it would far exceed the number of victims in Vegas.

Regardless, a nonsensical question.
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My self-preservation survival instincts kick in. So I would stop all mass shootings in a year.

Yes, the chance of me or a loved one being a casualty in a mass shooting are extremely small. But if I could make it 0.0%? Sure. And I can avoid Chicago for a year.

Sounds selfish, but I bet everyone reading those choices initially thought of that.
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Considering I never travel to Chicago, I would choose option 1.
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Hey, you only had a 0.25% chance of being killed if you were there, right in the middle of the biggest mass shooting in US history.
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The Libturds are racists in my opinion. They want to take away the countrys second amendment rights but don't care how many Blacks in Chicago and other Black majority cities get murdered? Why do I say this, because they are so AGAINST stop and frisk laws. They'd rather see dead Blacks than impose a law that would certainly reduce the number of offenders carrying weapons.

It doesn't take a genius to see that a gang member would not risk getting stopped with an illegal firearm and especially if he has a felony already. Stupid Liberalturds.
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It always takes a mass killing to get conservatives to care about Chicago.
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(10-03-2017 04:31 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  It always takes a mass killing to get conservatives to care about Chicago.

No, conservatives didn't leave Chicago, your team forced them out.
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(10-03-2017 03:05 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 02:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Stop all mass shooting for one calendar year.


The reason is simply.

100% of the victims in Las Vegas were innocent.

In Chicago, most of those shooting are gun battles between rival gangs.

If you add up all the innocents show in Chicago in a year, it would far exceed the number of victims in Vegas.

Regardless, a nonsensical question.

Well, sure it's nonsensical.

But it does make one think about the sheer number of gun violence victims in Chicago.


Last year there were 4,368 shooting victims in Chicago.

This year have been 519 murders over the 1st three quarters. That averages to 173 per quarter meaning Chicago could finish the year with 692 total murders for 2017.


What gun control measures has Chicago not implemented? Chi is one of the nation's leading cities for gun control legislation. So what are they missing?
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(10-03-2017 04:31 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  It always takes a mass killing to get conservatives to care about Chicago.

At least conservatives care about Chicago once in a while. Given the level of violence and homicide it's obvious the ruling Democrats don't give a flip at all.
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(10-03-2017 04:40 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 03:05 PM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 02:17 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Stop all mass shooting for one calendar year.


The reason is simply.

100% of the victims in Las Vegas were innocent.

In Chicago, most of those shooting are gun battles between rival gangs.

If you add up all the innocents show in Chicago in a year, it would far exceed the number of victims in Vegas.

Regardless, a nonsensical question.

Well, sure it's nonsensical.

But it does make one think about the sheer number of gun violence victims in Chicago.


Last year there were 4,368 shooting victims in Chicago.

This year have been 519 murders over the 1st three quarters. That averages to 173 per quarter meaning Chicago could finish the year with 692 total murders for 2017.


What gun control measures has Chicago not implemented? Chi is one of the nation's leading cities for gun control legislation. So what are they missing?

My serious response to this? Stop and frisk coupled with house-by-house, room-by-room searches and a border wall around the city to make sure nothing gets in. Short of that, the killing will go on because you can buy guns in another state and drive them in by the truck-load. Of course, THAT IS AGAINST YET ANOTHER LAW, but that's beside the point.
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Did your last "boarder" leave you hanging? It's BORDER! So many people are against Border Walls and yet can't spell the dang word.
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(10-03-2017 05:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Did your last "boarder" leave you hanging? It's BORDER! So many people are against Border Walls and yet can't spell the dang word.

Daaaaannnnngggg..... I hang my head in shame. BTW, I'm for a border wall.

Fixed.
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(10-03-2017 05:52 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 05:50 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  Did your last "boarder" leave you hanging? It's BORDER! So many people are against Border Walls and yet can't spell the dang word.

Daaaaannnnngggg..... I hang my head in shame. BTW, I'm for a border wall.

Fixed.

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It was meant for you and others that keep screwing up the word.
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(10-03-2017 04:43 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(10-03-2017 04:31 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  It always takes a mass killing to get conservatives to care about Chicago.

At least conservatives care about Chicago once in a while. Given the level of violence and homicide it's obvious the ruling Democrats don't give a flip at all.

Fake care about Chicago.
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