(10-03-2017 09:59 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 09:05 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 06:59 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 06:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I would like to see all 9 court justices to deemed that both Democrat and Republicans gerrymandering as unconstitutional so that a neutral party can redraw the districts so that it does not favor one party over the other. That would make it a fair election. This could hurt Pelosi and Schumer, and could hurt Rand, Ryan, MCConnell, Cruz, Cotton and others from both parties.

Where do you propose to find the angels to serve as "neutral" parties?

And how do you define what is a gerrymander vs. a distribution of population?

I can't speak for David, but the shortest splitline algorithm is the closest thing to an unbiased, computer-generated system that I've seen.

And also very illegal under current law, at least for some states.

Really the GOP cannot win any election on its merits so it must simply resort to frustrating the will of the majority through voter suppression and Gerrymandering.

Here's a few facts

The Democrat for President got 3 million more votes than the Republican
The Democrats got more votes for the US House than the Republicans
The Democrats got more votes for the US Senate than the Republicans
42 million African Americans have zero majority Senate seats.
15 million LGBT voters are consistently gerrymandered out of any voting strength
90% of Texas population increase has come from non-white voters since 1990. All of the new districts have been made to be white districts.

At some point, our entire democracy is put into question by a system run for the benefit of a party that cannot win a majority of the votes.

(10-04-2017 02:08 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Really the GOP cannot win any election on its merits so it must simply resort to frustrating the will of the majority through voter suppression and Gerrymandering.

Here's a few facts

The Democrat for President got 3 million more votes than the Republican
The Democrats got more votes for the US House than the Republicans
The Democrats got more votes for the US Senate than the Republicans
42 million African Americans have zero majority Senate seats.
15 million LGBT voters are consistently gerrymandered out of any voting strength
90% of Texas population increase has come from non-white voters since 1990. All of the new districts have been made to be white districts.

At some point, our entire democracy is put into question by a system run for the benefit of a party that cannot win a majority of the votes.

34 Republican governors, 15 Democratic, 1 Independent. So how has that been gerrymandered? How have African Americans been discriminated against by not being in the majority in any state?
This has got to be one of your worst posts ever.

(10-04-2017 02:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:08 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Really the GOP cannot win any election on its merits so it must simply resort to frustrating the will of the majority through voter suppression and Gerrymandering.

Here's a few facts

The Democrat for President got 3 million more votes than the Republican
The Democrats got more votes for the US House than the Republicans
The Democrats got more votes for the US Senate than the Republicans
42 million African Americans have zero majority Senate seats.
15 million LGBT voters are consistently gerrymandered out of any voting strength
90% of Texas population increase has come from non-white voters since 1990. All of the new districts have been made to be white districts.

At some point, our entire democracy is put into question by a system run for the benefit of a party that cannot win a majority of the votes.

34 Republican governors, 15 Democratic, 1 Independent. So how has that been gerrymandered? How have African Americans been discriminated against by not being in the majority in any state?
This has got to be one of your worst posts ever.

Uh many states were populated by imports from Europe who were given passage and assistance to move there. Meanwhile blacks were largely excluded from that assistance. Basically the entire plains was settled by subsidized white immigration.

And why isn't DC a state? Because racism.

Our states are an exercise in gerrymandering. For the benefit of white people.

(10-04-2017 02:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:08 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Really the GOP cannot win any election on its merits so it must simply resort to frustrating the will of the majority through voter suppression and Gerrymandering.

Here's a few facts

The Democrat for President got 3 million more votes than the Republican
The Democrats got more votes for the US House than the Republicans
The Democrats got more votes for the US Senate than the Republicans
42 million African Americans have zero majority Senate seats.
15 million LGBT voters are consistently gerrymandered out of any voting strength
90% of Texas population increase has come from non-white voters since 1990. All of the new districts have been made to be white districts.

At some point, our entire democracy is put into question by a system run for the benefit of a party that cannot win a majority of the votes.

34 Republican governors, 15 Democratic, 1 Independent. So how has that been gerrymandered? How have African Americans been discriminated against by not being in the majority in any state?
This has got to be one of your worst posts ever.

Uh many states were populated by imports from Europe who were given passage and assistance to move there. Meanwhile blacks were largely excluded from that assistance. Basically the entire plains was settled by subsidized white immigration.

And why isn't DC a state? Because racism.

Our states are an exercise in gerrymandering. For the benefit of white people.

DC isn't a state because its a city. And it was a part of Maryland. I'd be perfectly fine with giving it back to Maryland.

(10-04-2017 02:23 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:08 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Really the GOP cannot win any election on its merits so it must simply resort to frustrating the will of the majority through voter suppression and Gerrymandering.

Here's a few facts

The Democrat for President got 3 million more votes than the Republican
The Democrats got more votes for the US House than the Republicans
The Democrats got more votes for the US Senate than the Republicans
42 million African Americans have zero majority Senate seats.
15 million LGBT voters are consistently gerrymandered out of any voting strength
90% of Texas population increase has come from non-white voters since 1990. All of the new districts have been made to be white districts.

At some point, our entire democracy is put into question by a system run for the benefit of a party that cannot win a majority of the votes.

34 Republican governors, 15 Democratic, 1 Independent. So how has that been gerrymandered? How have African Americans been discriminated against by not being in the majority in any state?
This has got to be one of your worst posts ever.

Uh many states were populated by imports from Europe who were given passage and assistance to move there. Meanwhile blacks were largely excluded from that assistance. Basically the entire plains was settled by subsidized white immigration.

And why isn't DC a state? Because racism.

Our states are an exercise in gerrymandering. For the benefit of white people.

DC isn't a state because its a city. And it was a part of Maryland. I'd be perfectly fine with giving it back to Maryland.

Of course, that would still prevent black people from being a majority or even a plurality in any Senate seat.

DC isn't a state because it has a lot of black people.

(10-04-2017 02:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And why isn't DC a state? Because racism.

D.C. isn't a state because of the Constitution. Specifically Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which calls for:

Quote:To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

The District of Columbia was created so that no one state had undue influence over the seat of federal government based solely upon it being located in said state.

You want to change that? You are going to have to pass an amendment to the Constitution.

(10-04-2017 03:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And why isn't DC a state? Because racism.

D.C. isn't a state because of the Constitution. Specifically Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which calls for:

Quote:To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

The District of Columbia was created so that no one state had undue influence over the seat of federal government based solely upon it being located in said state.

You want to change that? You are going to have to pass an amendment to the Constitution.

Again, 42 million black people are a majority or a plurality in zero Senate seats. That was by design. There are non-constitutional remedies to fix it, such as carving out 95% of DC and making it a state.

But I suspect that many of y'all want to keep Blacks from voting for Senators of their own choosing.

Meanwhile, Wyoming, North Dakota, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska were settled almost exclusively by whites imported from Europe with subsidies. Today they have a total population of 5 million and have TEN Senators.

42 million Blacks = zero Senate seats. 5 million whites, largely descended from whites imported from Europe = 10 Senate seats.

(10-04-2017 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And why isn't DC a state? Because racism.

D.C. isn't a state because of the Constitution. Specifically Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which calls for:

Quote:To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

The District of Columbia was created so that no one state had undue influence over the seat of federal government based solely upon it being located in said state.

You want to change that? You are going to have to pass an amendment to the Constitution.

Again, 42 million black people are a majority or a plurality in zero Senate seats. That was by design. There are non-constitutional remedies to fix it, such as carving out 95% of DC and making it a state.

But I suspect that many of y'all want to keep Blacks from voting for Senators of their own choosing.

Meanwhile, Wyoming, North Dakota, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska were settled almost exclusively by whites imported from Europe with subsidies. Today they have a total population of 5 million and have TEN Senators.

42 million Blacks = zero Senate seats. 5 million whites, largely descended from whites imported from Europe = 10 Senate seats.

Like I said....you want DC to be a state then you need to get off here and get to work because it's a long, complicated process.

You'll need either:

A. Two thirds affirmative vote in both houses of the federal legislature then two thirds of the states have to approve.

or

B. Get two=thirds of the state legislatures to call a Constitutional convention. Once they propose an amendment it will then require the approval of three-fourths of the state legislatures.


Best get to work.

(10-04-2017 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And why isn't DC a state? Because racism.

D.C. isn't a state because of the Constitution. Specifically Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which calls for:

Quote:To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

The District of Columbia was created so that no one state had undue influence over the seat of federal government based solely upon it being located in said state.

You want to change that? You are going to have to pass an amendment to the Constitution.

Again, 42 million black people are a majority or a plurality in zero Senate seats. That was by design. There are non-constitutional remedies to fix it, such as carving out 95% of DC and making it a state.

But I suspect that many of y'all want to keep Blacks from voting for Senators of their own choosing.

Meanwhile, Wyoming, North Dakota, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska were settled almost exclusively by whites imported from Europe with subsidies. Today they have a total population of 5 million and have TEN Senators.

42 million Blacks = zero Senate seats. 5 million whites, largely descended from whites imported from Europe = 10 Senate seats.

A perfect illustration of ignorance of the concept of Federalism. Bravo!!!

And a perfect example of a textbook case of the typical liberal kneejerk response to color *everything* in the world in racist tones. You get quadruple progressive retard points for the combination.....

(10-04-2017 03:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And why isn't DC a state? Because racism.

D.C. isn't a state because of the Constitution. Specifically Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which calls for:

Quote:To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

The District of Columbia was created so that no one state had undue influence over the seat of federal government based solely upon it being located in said state.

You want to change that? You are going to have to pass an amendment to the Constitution.

Again, 42 million black people are a majority or a plurality in zero Senate seats. That was by design. There are non-constitutional remedies to fix it, such as carving out 95% of DC and making it a state.

But I suspect that many of y'all want to keep Blacks from voting for Senators of their own choosing.

Meanwhile, Wyoming, North Dakota, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska were settled almost exclusively by whites imported from Europe with subsidies. Today they have a total population of 5 million and have TEN Senators.

42 million Blacks = zero Senate seats. 5 million whites, largely descended from whites imported from Europe = 10 Senate seats.

Like I said....you want DC to be a state then you need to get off here and get to work because it's a long, complicated process.

You'll need either:

A. Two thirds affirmative vote in both houses of the federal legislature then two thirds of the states have to approve.

or

B. Get two=thirds of the state legislatures to call a Constitutional convention. Once they propose an amendment it will then require the approval of three-fourths of the state legislatures.


Best get to work.

LOL. It can be done, constitutionally using the following method

Day 1. Pass, by a simple majority in the US House and US Senate a resolution sending 95% of the District back to Maryland. President signs it

Day 2. Maryland's Legislature and Governor pass a law setting up a vote on separation for DC.

Day 3. Vote in DC on statehood and for Governor, US House Representative and 2 Senators in the event of statehood

Day 4. Pass, by a simple majority in the US House and US Senate a resolution admitting the state of New Columbia to the union as state 51. President signs it. 2 Senators and 1 Rep take their seats.

----

Zero Constitutional Amendment needed. And I don't think that the step of having DC go to Maryland for 1 day is even needed.

Of course, Republicans don't want Blacks to have a voice, so it will require a Dem House and Senate and President.

(10-04-2017 03:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 02:17 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  And why isn't DC a state? Because racism.

D.C. isn't a state because of the Constitution. Specifically Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which calls for:

Quote:To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;

The District of Columbia was created so that no one state had undue influence over the seat of federal government based solely upon it being located in said state.

You want to change that? You are going to have to pass an amendment to the Constitution.

Again, 42 million black people are a majority or a plurality in zero Senate seats. That was by design. There are non-constitutional remedies to fix it, such as carving out 95% of DC and making it a state.

But I suspect that many of y'all want to keep Blacks from voting for Senators of their own choosing.

Meanwhile, Wyoming, North Dakota, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska were settled almost exclusively by whites imported from Europe with subsidies. Today they have a total population of 5 million and have TEN Senators.

42 million Blacks = zero Senate seats. 5 million whites, largely descended from whites imported from Europe = 10 Senate seats.

Like I said....you want DC to be a state then you need to get off here and get to work because it's a long, complicated process.

You'll need either:

A. Two thirds affirmative vote in both houses of the federal legislature then two thirds of the states have to approve.

or

B. Get two=thirds of the state legislatures to call a Constitutional convention. Once they propose an amendment it will then require the approval of three-fourths of the state legislatures.


Best get to work.

LOL. It can be done, constitutionally using the following method

Day 1. Pass, by a simple majority in the US House and US Senate a resolution sending 95% of the District back to Maryland. President signs it

Day 2. Maryland's Legislature and Governor pass a law setting up a vote on separation for DC.

Day 3. Vote in DC on statehood and for Governor, US House Representative and 2 Senators in the event of statehood

Day 4. Pass, by a simple majority in the US House and US Senate a resolution admitting the state of New Columbia to the union as state 51. President signs it. 2 Senators and 1 Rep take their seats.

----

Zero Constitutional Amendment needed. And I don't think that the step of having DC go to Maryland for 1 day is even needed.

Of course, Republicans don't want Blacks to have a voice, so it will require a Dem House and Senate and President.

LOL You really believe that don't you?

How precious!

(10-04-2017 03:33 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  D.C. isn't a state because of the Constitution. Specifically Article I, Section 8, Clause 17 which calls for:


The District of Columbia was created so that no one state had undue influence over the seat of federal government based solely upon it being located in said state.

You want to change that? You are going to have to pass an amendment to the Constitution.

Again, 42 million black people are a majority or a plurality in zero Senate seats. That was by design. There are non-constitutional remedies to fix it, such as carving out 95% of DC and making it a state.

But I suspect that many of y'all want to keep Blacks from voting for Senators of their own choosing.

Meanwhile, Wyoming, North Dakota, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska were settled almost exclusively by whites imported from Europe with subsidies. Today they have a total population of 5 million and have TEN Senators.

42 million Blacks = zero Senate seats. 5 million whites, largely descended from whites imported from Europe = 10 Senate seats.

Like I said....you want DC to be a state then you need to get off here and get to work because it's a long, complicated process.

You'll need either:

A. Two thirds affirmative vote in both houses of the federal legislature then two thirds of the states have to approve.

or

B. Get two=thirds of the state legislatures to call a Constitutional convention. Once they propose an amendment it will then require the approval of three-fourths of the state legislatures.


Best get to work.

LOL. It can be done, constitutionally using the following method

Day 1. Pass, by a simple majority in the US House and US Senate a resolution sending 95% of the District back to Maryland. President signs it

Day 2. Maryland's Legislature and Governor pass a law setting up a vote on separation for DC.

Day 3. Vote in DC on statehood and for Governor, US House Representative and 2 Senators in the event of statehood

Day 4. Pass, by a simple majority in the US House and US Senate a resolution admitting the state of New Columbia to the union as state 51. President signs it. 2 Senators and 1 Rep take their seats.

----

Zero Constitutional Amendment needed. And I don't think that the step of having DC go to Maryland for 1 day is even needed.

Of course, Republicans don't want Blacks to have a voice, so it will require a Dem House and Senate and President.

LOL You really believe that don't you?

How precious!

Yep, I don't think that Trumpism is really subject to nuance or extended logic. He's a flat out, simple racist and his supporters either are simple racists themselves or are unconcerned about supporting a flat out racist.

(10-04-2017 03:35 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:33 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Again, 42 million black people are a majority or a plurality in zero Senate seats. That was by design. There are non-constitutional remedies to fix it, such as carving out 95% of DC and making it a state.

But I suspect that many of y'all want to keep Blacks from voting for Senators of their own choosing.

Meanwhile, Wyoming, North Dakota, Montana, South Dakota, Nebraska were settled almost exclusively by whites imported from Europe with subsidies. Today they have a total population of 5 million and have TEN Senators.

42 million Blacks = zero Senate seats. 5 million whites, largely descended from whites imported from Europe = 10 Senate seats.

Like I said....you want DC to be a state then you need to get off here and get to work because it's a long, complicated process.

You'll need either:

A. Two thirds affirmative vote in both houses of the federal legislature then two thirds of the states have to approve.

or

B. Get two=thirds of the state legislatures to call a Constitutional convention. Once they propose an amendment it will then require the approval of three-fourths of the state legislatures.


Best get to work.

LOL. It can be done, constitutionally using the following method

Day 1. Pass, by a simple majority in the US House and US Senate a resolution sending 95% of the District back to Maryland. President signs it

Day 2. Maryland's Legislature and Governor pass a law setting up a vote on separation for DC.

Day 3. Vote in DC on statehood and for Governor, US House Representative and 2 Senators in the event of statehood

Day 4. Pass, by a simple majority in the US House and US Senate a resolution admitting the state of New Columbia to the union as state 51. President signs it. 2 Senators and 1 Rep take their seats.

----

Zero Constitutional Amendment needed. And I don't think that the step of having DC go to Maryland for 1 day is even needed.

Of course, Republicans don't want Blacks to have a voice, so it will require a Dem House and Senate and President.

LOL You really believe that don't you?

How precious!

Yep, I don't think that Trumpism is really subject to nuance or extended logic. He's a flat out, simple racist and his supporters either are simple racists themselves or are unconcerned about supporting a flat out racist.

So, he gave a good speech and the San Juan mayor's comments were proven to be hypocritical partisan lies, so we are back to "he and his supporters are racists" talking points.

I guess TDS is a form of obsessive compulsive disorder, so you can't be counted on to be creative or even humorous.

(10-04-2017 01:49 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 09:59 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 09:05 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 06:59 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(10-03-2017 06:49 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I would like to see all 9 court justices to deemed that both Democrat and Republicans gerrymandering as unconstitutional so that a neutral party can redraw the districts so that it does not favor one party over the other. That would make it a fair election. This could hurt Pelosi and Schumer, and could hurt Rand, Ryan, MCConnell, Cruz, Cotton and others from both parties.

Where do you propose to find the angels to serve as "neutral" parties?

And how do you define what is a gerrymander vs. a distribution of population?

I can't speak for David, but the shortest splitline algorithm is the closest thing to an unbiased, computer-generated system that I've seen.

And also very illegal under current law, at least for some states.

Very true, although I wouldn't mind that being used to come up with districts so they'd essentially just appear out of the blue every decade right after the census comes out...too much of a petty ***** fest as it is right now from both sides.

I think the best solution is the states working together. Maybe start with the states with 5 and fewer districts agreeing to do it on a non-partisan basis as Nebraska does. Beyond that have Democratic and Republican states with similar number of districts agree.

(10-04-2017 04:04 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:35 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:33 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:25 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(10-04-2017 03:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Like I said....you want DC to be a state then you need to get off here and get to work because it's a long, complicated process.

You'll need either:

A. Two thirds affirmative vote in both houses of the federal legislature then two thirds of the states have to approve.

or

B. Get two=thirds of the state legislatures to call a Constitutional convention. Once they propose an amendment it will then require the approval of three-fourths of the state legislatures.


Best get to work.

LOL. It can be done, constitutionally using the following method

Day 1. Pass, by a simple majority in the US House and US Senate a resolution sending 95% of the District back to Maryland. President signs it

Day 2. Maryland's Legislature and Governor pass a law setting up a vote on separation for DC.

Day 3. Vote in DC on statehood and for Governor, US House Representative and 2 Senators in the event of statehood

Day 4. Pass, by a simple majority in the US House and US Senate a resolution admitting the state of New Columbia to the union as state 51. President signs it. 2 Senators and 1 Rep take their seats.

----

Zero Constitutional Amendment needed. And I don't think that the step of having DC go to Maryland for 1 day is even needed.

Of course, Republicans don't want Blacks to have a voice, so it will require a Dem House and Senate and President.

LOL You really believe that don't you?

How precious!

Yep, I don't think that Trumpism is really subject to nuance or extended logic. He's a flat out, simple racist and his supporters either are simple racists themselves or are unconcerned about supporting a flat out racist.

So, he gave a good speech and the San Juan mayor's comments were proven to be hypocritical partisan lies, so we are back to "he and his supporters are racists" talking points.

I guess TDS is a form of obsessive compulsive disorder, so you can't be counted on to be creative or even humorous.

A good speech? On what? Telling Puerto Ricans to pay their debt and have a good time? Then went to an all white controlled church run from the mainland (Puerto Rico is 98 percent Hispanic) and threw paper towels at the 20 or so handpicked people bussed in to provide a backdrop to his photo op.


Or are you talking about the teleprompter speech where he refused to call the LV shooter a terrorist.

The future Governor of Puerto Rico is right on calling out Trump. He spent the last couple of weekends friggin' GOLFING for crying out loud.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2...ion-215686

Good article on the Democrat's gerrymandering obsession. And its by liberal Jeff Greenfield. Trashes their talking points.