(10-02-2017 11:33 AM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 10:44 AM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  Houston going straight to the SEC is as likely as JMU doing the same. Not saying he doesn't deserve it and wouldn't do great things there, but there's absolutely no way. I would be shocked if in 5-10 years he hadn't worked his way up to a high-level P5 head coaching gig, but he's not going straight from JMU to Tennessee. Interesting to see him getting traction in online articles, but at this point, that's as far as it's going to go.

The Carolina job is the one we really have to worry about. It's the one he would be more likely to take and the way their year is going, they'll be looking to make a change.

Carolina is not firing their coach after one bad year. NC State if they fall apart may.

I'm not sure which carolina you guys are referring to...

UNC, Fedora is probably gone from what all the UNC peeps say. Would've been gone earlier, but gained some time thanks to 2015.

ECU, I don't think this guy is gone. As bad as it may be, I don't think they can afford to pay two salaries when he has 4 years remaining, unless there is something in his contract that can avoid that.

(10-02-2017 11:48 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 11:33 AM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 10:44 AM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  Houston going straight to the SEC is as likely as JMU doing the same. Not saying he doesn't deserve it and wouldn't do great things there, but there's absolutely no way. I would be shocked if in 5-10 years he hadn't worked his way up to a high-level P5 head coaching gig, but he's not going straight from JMU to Tennessee. Interesting to see him getting traction in online articles, but at this point, that's as far as it's going to go.

The Carolina job is the one we really have to worry about. It's the one he would be more likely to take and the way their year is going, they'll be looking to make a change.

Carolina is not firing their coach after one bad year. NC State if they fall apart may.

I'm not sure which carolina you guys are referring to...

UNC, Fedora is probably gone from what all the UNC peeps say. Would've been gone earlier, but gained some time thanks to 2015.

ECU, I don't think this guy is gone. As bad as it may be, I don't think they can afford to pay two salaries when he has 4 years remaining, unless there is something in his contract that can avoid that.

Yeah, basically every UNC fan I've talked to has said he should have jetted before this year after losing Trubisky and all his weapons. He had 2 good years. Unless he turns things around, he's gone. He's 1-4 so far, with his lone win over ODU and just got blown out by GT. They're basically guaranteed losses against ND, VT, Miami, and NC State. If they drop either UVA or Pitt, he's likely gone at the end of the season.

(10-02-2017 09:12 AM)JMUNewbill Wrote:  Mike Houston isn't going from JMU to the SEC. End of discussion.

Bingo. Not at the end of this season to Tennessee anyway. I quit reading this thread after your post.

(10-02-2017 10:13 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  edit note: like it has every time since Fulmer was let go, Jon Gruden's name will arise...though, those chances are near zero (IMO)...he likes his gig with ESPN/MNF...he has a home near Knoxville and married a former Vols cheerleader (IIRC) so his name always is brought up...funny (well, maybe not so funny) UT was spoiled with 2 head coaches - Majors & Fulmer - for 31 years ('77-'08) and now they may be facing their 4th in a decade if Jones gets his pink slip

Gruden's name comes up every time the ND job comes open too (and every time the current coach is on the hot seat). His dad was an assistant at ND when Jon was a kid. If it ever were to come down to a Tennessee / Notre Dame decision for him, ND might have the advantage:

Quote:Bucs head coach Jon Gruden, interviewed in the Sept. issue of Playboy, reveals that he lost his virginity at age 17, in South Bend, Indiana. “I lost my virginity to the Notre Dame fight song,” Gruden says. “There was a band?” asks Playboy. “No, not even music,” Gruden replies. “But it was in my mind.”

(10-02-2017 11:48 AM)JMU08 Wrote:  UNC, Fedora is probably gone from what all the UNC peeps say. Would've been gone earlier, but gained some time thanks to 2015.

Of course, the NCAA likely takes out 20+ years of fraud at UNCheat and 6 more years of denying, lying, deflecting, and all the other crap they've done on Hawaii-Hilo's women's golf team. But, if they do put any kind of overdue hammer down on the Cheaters, they may be begging Fedora to stay there...it certainly won't be a sexy job if the NCAA does what it should have done several years ago.

(it's the NCAA though so I expect they'll do nothing )

(10-02-2017 12:14 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 09:12 AM)JMUNewbill Wrote:  Mike Houston isn't going from JMU to the SEC. End of discussion.

Bingo. Not at the end of this season to Tennessee anyway. I quit reading this thread after your post.

I agree because there will never be another school that loves him, his staff and our team like JMU Nation does. King find the donors!!!!!!!

(10-02-2017 11:33 AM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 10:44 AM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  Houston going straight to the SEC is as likely as JMU doing the same. Not saying he doesn't deserve it and wouldn't do great things there, but there's absolutely no way. I would be shocked if in 5-10 years he hadn't worked his way up to a high-level P5 head coaching gig, but he's not going straight from JMU to Tennessee. Interesting to see him getting traction in online articles, but at this point, that's as far as it's going to go.

The Carolina job is the one we really have to worry about. It's the one he would be more likely to take and the way their year is going, they'll be looking to make a change.

Carolina is not firing their coach after one bad year. NC State if they fall apart may.

Carolina's woes are due to an incredible string of injuries to its starting players. You could say its the HC's fault but I don't see it. He is not leaving or being fired this year.

(10-02-2017 01:28 PM)JMU Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 11:33 AM)jmu98 Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 10:44 AM)jmufan2008 Wrote:  Houston going straight to the SEC is as likely as JMU doing the same. Not saying he doesn't deserve it and wouldn't do great things there, but there's absolutely no way. I would be shocked if in 5-10 years he hadn't worked his way up to a high-level P5 head coaching gig, but he's not going straight from JMU to Tennessee. Interesting to see him getting traction in online articles, but at this point, that's as far as it's going to go.

The Carolina job is the one we really have to worry about. It's the one he would be more likely to take and the way their year is going, they'll be looking to make a change.

Carolina is not firing their coach after one bad year. NC State if they fall apart may.

Carolina's woes are due to an incredible string of injuries to its starting players. You could say its the HC's fault but I don't see it. He is not leaving or being fired this year.

+1

Starting a redshirt freshman QB on top of all that doesn't help. Their offense is terrible. We got unlucky catching them in 2016 (with all those NFL draft picks on their offense) instead of 2017. If we play them this year, I like our chances a lot...especially with this 2017 Dukes Defense. Fedora isn't going anywhere on UNC's account - even with a meltdown season this year. He may choose to bail if/when a NCAA hammer might come down. His name was thrown out there for some high profile jobs at the end of last year including LSU (and perhaps Texas though no proof of that). He reportedly turned down Houston. He won't have any problems finding a good HC'ing job if UNCheat is stupid enough to let him go. UNCheat was a sleeping puppy for almost 20 years since Mack Brown left for Texas due to bad hire after bad hire. Fedora has brought them back to some level of credibility...well, back to where a lot of us knew them under Dick Crum in the 80's.

The Cheaters' last ACC title in FB was 1980. NC State's last ACC title was 1979. Intentionally used the word "was" because that's a long time ago.

In the off chance tat HCMH reads these posts I would like to point out that Knoxville is terrible at locking their gates. I've driven through there a few times and saw unlocked and open gates everywhere! So...if you are fan of locking gates I'd stay away from UT. And in case you were curious...yes any other school that comes calling is equally terrible at locking gates and they all also probably hate puppies so....

(10-02-2017 09:11 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  Withers left the same year we had CGD
Craig Bohl left NDSU after they had CGD in 2013. Coincidence?

It’s possible CGD is both a blessing and a curse for FCS schools. That’s a very big stage for both the school and the coach.

It helped Withers get the Texas State offer.

(10-02-2017 04:25 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 09:11 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  Withers left the same year we had CGD
Craig Bohl left NDSU after they had CGD in 2013. Coincidence?

It’s possible CGD is both a blessing and a curse for FCS schools. That’s a very big stage for both the school and the coach.

It helped Withers get the Texas State offer.

Indeed.

I think Houston could get any SBC job today if he wanted it. GSU is sure to come hard after him this year.

(10-02-2017 04:53 PM)JMU2004 Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 04:25 PM)jmuroadwarrior Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 09:11 AM)JMURocks Wrote:  Withers left the same year we had CGD
Craig Bohl left NDSU after they had CGD in 2013. Coincidence?

It’s possible CGD is both a blessing and a curse for FCS schools. That’s a very big stage for both the school and the coach.

It helped Withers get the Texas State offer.

Indeed.

I think Houston could get any SBC job today if he wanted it. GSU is sure to come hard after him this year.

If having CGD means it is more likely we will lose MH then I hope we don't get it.

UTEP is now available. Can't imagine why he would co,wider it, but it is a (bad) FBS job.

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(10-02-2017 12:16 PM)91Alum Wrote:  

Quote:Bucs head coach Jon Gruden, interviewed in the Sept. issue of Playboy, reveals that he lost his virginity at age 17, in South Bend, Indiana. “I lost my virginity to the Notre Dame fight song,” Gruden says. “There was a band?” asks Playboy. “No, not even music,” Gruden replies. “But it was in my mind.”

Wait, what is this nonsense? I've been perusing Playboy for decades, not once did I ever notice pages with words on them.

Remember that even Mickey was offered the South Alabama job in 2008 and briefly took it for a few hours but his family talked him down from it.
I think Houston isn’t going to jump at the first trash offer that comes his way (Texas State).

(10-02-2017 06:34 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Remember that even Mickey was offered the South Alabama job in 2008 and briefly took it for a few hours but his family talked him down from it.
I think Houston isn’t going to jump at the first trash offer that comes his way (Texas State).

In his last 3 years at NDSU, Craig Bohl was 43-2 with 3 NC’s. His overall record there was 104-32 with only 1 losing season.

At Wyoming, he has two losing seasons in 3 years with a 17-26 record.

This reminds me a bit of what happened with Rip Scherer who had great success here but struggled in Memphis and is now a TE coach at UCLA.

Smart coaches know the school you go to can determine your career trajectory. I don’t think Houston will jump into a bad situation, but he will also get some attractive offers eventually.

Carolina is stupid if they fire Fedora. Lost a ton of talent and has a crapload of injuries. Best coach they've had since Mack Brown.

NC State is dumb if they fire Doeren. That's a pretty good football team and he has them on the rise. He's also stuck in a hell of a division with Clemson, FSU, and Louisville. But this Pack team is pretty damn good too.

(10-02-2017 08:02 PM)JMUDuke25 Wrote:  But this Pack team is pretty damn good too.

I hope you’re right. We’ll find out Thursday.



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(10-02-2017 07:17 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 06:34 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Remember that even Mickey was offered the South Alabama job in 2008 and briefly took it for a few hours but his family talked him down from it.
I think Houston isn’t going to jump at the first trash offer that comes his way (Texas State).

In his last 3 years at NDSU, Craig Bohl was 43-2 with 3 NC’s. His overall record there was 104-32 with only 1 losing season.

At Wyoming, he has two losing seasons in 3 years with a 17-26 record.

This reminds me a bit of what happened with Rip Scherer who had great success here but struggled in Memphis and is now a TE coach at UCLA.

Smart coaches know the school you go to can determine your career trajectory. I don’t think Houston will jump into a bad situation, but he will also get some attractive offers eventually.

It seems like you're saying that Craig Bohl made a poor choice in moving to Wyoming, but I think you're cherry-picking stats to try and reinforce your narrative.

Craig Bohl is rebuilding the Wyoming program, so of course his record isn't going to look great through 3 full seasons. His first two seasons were 4-8 and 2-10, but you completely glossed over the fact that Wyoming went 8-4 in the regular season last year, co-won the MWC Mountain Division (which is the better of the two and includes Boise State, New Mexico, Air Force, and Colorado State, who all had conference records above .500) and went to the conference title game. Yes, they finished 8-6 in the end, but that's a marked improvement on the first two seasons of his tenure there.

By most accounts, Bohl is delivering on expectations in Year 4, so I'm not sure why you painted his time in Wyoming as less than stellar.

(10-03-2017 07:36 AM)H.U.S.T.L.E. Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 07:17 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(10-02-2017 06:34 PM)Potomac Wrote:  Remember that even Mickey was offered the South Alabama job in 2008 and briefly took it for a few hours but his family talked him down from it.
I think Houston isn’t going to jump at the first trash offer that comes his way (Texas State).

In his last 3 years at NDSU, Craig Bohl was 43-2 with 3 NC’s. His overall record there was 104-32 with only 1 losing season.

At Wyoming, he has two losing seasons in 3 years with a 17-26 record.

This reminds me a bit of what happened with Rip Scherer who had great success here but struggled in Memphis and is now a TE coach at UCLA.

Smart coaches know the school you go to can determine your career trajectory. I don’t think Houston will jump into a bad situation, but he will also get some attractive offers eventually.

It seems like you're saying that Craig Bohl made a poor choice in moving to Wyoming, but I think you're cherry-picking stats to try and reinforce your narrative.

Craig Bohl is rebuilding the Wyoming program, so of course his record isn't going to look great through 3 full seasons. His first two seasons were 4-8 and 2-10, but you completely glossed over the fact that Wyoming went 8-4 in the regular season last year, co-won the MWC Mountain Division (which is the better of the two and includes Boise State, New Mexico, Air Force, and Colorado State, who all had conference records above .500) and went to the conference title game. Yes, they finished 8-6 in the end, but that's a marked improvement on the first two seasons of his tenure there.

By most accounts, Bohl is delivering on expectations in Year 4, so I'm not sure why you painted his time in Wyoming as less than stellar.

I agree that Bohl going to Wyoming was not a bad choice. As well I believe MH going to ECU would not be a bad choice. Neither are great choices but not bad ones either. If either of these two were to choose a place like Texas State, GA State, LA Monroe, Eastern Michigan, those would be a bad choices for these two men. They both have great futures ahead of them. Those teams are meant for coaches like EW who have no intentions of unpacking.