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RE: Position Grades SDSU
(10-01-2017 08:13 PM)17Huskies Wrote:  Yeah, I think I agree with most of the grades. I would put the coaching higher, that was a dang good strategy against a good team, yes- I'm furious with the throw into the end-zone, but I'm pretty sure that was supposed to be a look quick for man coverage, and if it's not there, start running...and it was just a poor decision from a young QB, a young QB that has shown he has plenty of talent in that arm, just has to get better at the reads, I'm confident he'll get there after watching last night, but not sure we'll see the finished product this year.

How about one additional grade on recruiting and development from the last few years? We made mistakes that cost us the game, but we man-handled them up front all night, and we showed off outside at the skilled positions as well. Think about this, with 3 min to go (I won't get the exact time right?), a top 20 team had a 4th and inches to go against NIU, a lowly MAC team, from about midfield? And they tried to draw offside and then punted...that doesn't happen much.

In hindsight, the handing SDSU an extra possession at end of 1st half probably decided the game, that's on coaching 100 percent. Not sure which coach or who made that decision to give SDSU the ball back, but that was very very large
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10-02-2017 12:16 AM
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When on the opposing teams 20 with a first down and running the ball is working. Run it again. That is what the big 10 used to do to us. We were the dominant team driving the ball. Make them stop the run. Period. Power football! That was a huge turning point in the game. SDSU could not stop the run all night. Otherwise, I think it was a well good game.

On Santa: He made a lot of good throws in the first half. I am not sure what happened in the 2nd half. We are still a little too predictable in our passing game. Mostly, I put this on the coaches. Santa will get better over time.

We will be tough to beat in the MAC if we stay healthy.
10-03-2017 09:38 AM
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The play was excellent to good. A decent pass and its 6. Not a great pas, a decent ball with some air at the cone. QB made a bad pass and worse a fundamentally horrible QB play.
10-03-2017 04:20 PM
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(10-03-2017 04:20 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  The play was excellent to good. A decent pass and its 6. Not a great pas, a decent ball with some air at the cone. QB made a bad pass and worse a fundamentally horrible QB play.

Well stated and very accurate; however, don't loose site of the fact that we were in this game in large part to Santa's play; which, with the exception of the two picks (the 3rd never be happens if the we don't throw the 2nd) was near flawless. At the time of the pick 6, we had 1 (maybe 2) incomplete pass, and it was thrown by Childers.
10-03-2017 05:01 PM
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They could have kept running the ball, but I don't think the pass call was bad at all. The execution stunk, period. Statistically, Blake was your best player, was a safety net, and had bailed them out on multiple 3rd downs.

First down is when you take chances to throw downfield. That's not a play call issue, it was Santas fault. Also, someone said mile the clock. Yeah, they had inside the 20 and 2:30 left, but a TD isn't guaranteed. Especially on a run once you get down there. If that's completed for a TD you going to complain about the time left for SDSU? No, because the defense was lights out.

Complaining to complain is one thing, but the thought process there is pretty typical and was worth the shot. You have to blame execution.
10-03-2017 08:22 PM
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Really? This coach has done nothing but play ultra conservative in the biggest games. Fortunately we took some shots Saturday and it paid off and we were in the game despite turnovers and a kick 6. For the coaches to risk the ball which they have been unwilling to do in some crucial losses was very frustrating when it really looked like we were dominating the line of scrimmage is mind boggling. I'm pretty sure the o-line would tell you the same thing. They owned SDSU in the fourth quarter. Santa looked like he had a running lane when he threw the pass as well with three guys around Blake. It was pretty obvious to me we were in control of the line of scrimmage and we put the ball in harm's way needlessly. If we were running out of time I'd have no problem with the call. But to score with 2:30 left against a team that was completing deep pass in chunks with a veteran QB was not good coaching. I'm pretty sure there are many players not very happy with the coaches after the game. But I'm sure they moved on and we have the MAC to play for but Hopefully we have an offensive identity now and we can play and coach solid games moving forward.
10-04-2017 01:16 AM
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If you think kids are mad at coaches when they lost and they turned the ball over 4 times you're an idiot. Coaches do not turn the ball over, players do. Players know if the play isn't there you throw it out of bounce, which he could have as Tears was on the sideline area on that throw. He forced it, that's not on Coach U or Carey.
10-04-2017 06:29 AM
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(10-04-2017 06:29 AM)HuskieJWN Wrote:  If you think kids are mad at coaches when they lost and they turned the ball over 4 times you're an idiot. Coaches do not turn the ball over, players do. Players know if the play isn't there you throw it out of bounce, which he could have as Tears was on the sideline area on that throw. He forced it, that's not on Coach U or Carey.

You're a moron if you think that players just mindlessly go along with the coaches. The players know the game, too, especially at this level. They know the feel, flow, and momentum of the game. I'm sure they're very disappointed that they didn't get to pound the rock late. But it's just speculation on both our parts so the point is moot unless you can tell me that you've spoken to a lot of players and they told you that the coaches called a perfect game. Obviously you think you're right (although you're completely wrong) and I know I'm right.
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(10-04-2017 01:16 AM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  For the coaches to risk the ball which they have been unwilling to do in some crucial losses was very frustrating when it really looked like we were dominating the line of scrimmage is mind boggling. They owned SDSU in the fourth quarter.
This is what I believe. We were controlling the line of scrimmage and with 2+ minutes left in the game, you do what is working. Power football will set up the pass. Make them stop the run. We had a decent size advantage and our guys were pushing the line of SDSU back. Set up the tight end Wineman for the TD from the 10 yard line. He would have been left alone to catch the TD most likely.

Wineman was really underused in the last game. I also liked the 2 tight end sets. Power football was fun to watch. Would I be saying this if the pass was to our guy and not picked off? Yes, I said it before the play even started. (3 times to the SDSU fans I was sitting next to)

Can't wait for MAC play. The future looks decent again. It also shows you how important the QB is to the team. Harnish and Lynch fit the bill. Hopefully, Santa can improve like they both did. We just need consistency at the QB position.
10-04-2017 08:48 AM
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Splooie...dont forget Hare - He was a winner and a MAC Champ!

THis team does not need greatness out of the QB to be champs. Think Trent Dilfer like,Execute and dont make mistakes.
10-04-2017 09:55 AM
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