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GFlash68, it would have been nice to have had Mason or Hazell 3 to 5 years. Both were here for only two. Since Trevor Rees, only four coaches have had winning records, and only Don James (four years) and Dennis Fitzgerald (3 years) stayed more than two years. So, in the past 54 years, Kent State was coached by a coach with a losing record at the school 43 of 54 years. Those coaches had a combined two winning seasons in those 43 years. The 11 seasons coached by one with an overall winning record at the school included 6 winning seasons.
10-21-2017 09:24 PM
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(10-21-2017 09:24 PM)Muskrat Wrote:  GFlash68, it would have been nice to have had Mason or Hazell 3 to 5 years. Both were here for only two. Since Trevor Rees, only four coaches have had winning records, and only Don James (four years) and Dennis Fitzgerald (3 years) stayed more than two years. So, in the past 54 years, Kent State was coached by a coach with a losing record at the school 43 of 54 years. Those coaches had a combined two winning seasons in those 43 years. The 11 seasons coached by one with an overall winning record at the school included 6 winning seasons.
Interesting and depressing numbers, I wonder if any of these coaches had a team in their fifth yera on the job that was only capable of scoring three points against some mediocre MAC defenses?
10-22-2017 06:28 AM
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I wonder if any FBS team has had a worse forty years than Kent State from 1978 through this season. The good news is that fact just may be an attraction for a coach on the move. I mean, if he wins at Kent State, Power 5 schools would say the standard, "If he won at Kent State, imagine what he can do here!" Obviously, winning at Kent State or any similar mid-major often doesn't translate into success higher up the food chain. And, coaches who would want Kent State to be a very brief stepping stone often apply the "quick fix" that often isn't a good thing long term. There are no easy answers for Kent State football's dilemma. I admit I have no answers. I just hope someone does!
10-22-2017 09:16 AM
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(10-22-2017 09:16 AM)Muskrat Wrote:  I wonder if any FBS team has had a worse forty years than Kent State from 1978 through this season. The good news is that fact just may be an attraction for a coach on the move. I mean, if he wins at Kent State, Power 5 schools would say the standard, "If he won at Kent State, imagine what he can do here!" Obviously, winning at Kent State or any similar mid-major often doesn't translate into success higher up the food chain. And, coaches who would want Kent State to be a very brief stepping stone often apply the "quick fix" that often isn't a good thing long term. There are no easy answers for Kent State football's dilemma. I admit I have no answers. I just hope someone does!

At least for the last 20 years, Eastern Michigan looks like they've sucked more than Kent State. We've had more seasons better than them.
10-23-2017 02:51 PM
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Funny that Slinkin mentioned EMU. They won the MAC in 1987, when were no divisions. Kent State would have tied them and gone to a bowl as MAC champions had a late Kent State field goal attempt not hit the left upright late against EMU. This article seems to have been written in 2012, and has Kent State the worst ever. Since KSU's record prior to 1978 was better than beginning 1978, there is an excellent chance that they have had the worst winning percentage over the last 40 years.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/11884...grams-ever
10-23-2017 03:34 PM
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New Mexico State is probably worse. Currently coached by Doug Martin, they have not made a bowl since 1960.
10-23-2017 08:54 PM
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(10-23-2017 08:54 PM)KentKrazy Wrote:  New Mexico State is probably worse. Currently coached by Doug Martin, they have not made a bowl since 1960.

At least they have an offense that scores
10-24-2017 10:24 AM
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I looked up New Mexico State. They, too, have been awful these last forty seasons. I didn't calculate who had the worst won-loss record. It would be close, though. Still, during that period, they have had four winning seasons to Kent State's three, and one conference championship to Kent State's none.
10-24-2017 01:37 PM
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The debate rages on if we have the worst program in the last 40 years in college football. Our current team borders on unwatchable (it is for me) to most people. I don't see how PH can get an extension at the end of the season. Hopefully, Joel can lure someone good to infuse some life. I don't need 8-10 wins a year. While that would be nice, a near .500 team that is competitive week in and week out would be enough for me. I am just looking for baby steps.
10-24-2017 04:01 PM
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dannyb73, I don't think there is any debate. I think everyone agrees that the program has been at or near the bottom. There is just some curiosity as to whether any program has actually been worse. It doesn't really matter. What you say I think we all could agree with. I don't think ANYONE is hoping that Kent State become the next Boise State. Or, even be what they are in other sports, such as men's basketball, golf, baseball, etc. I think most of us would be happy as heck if they were to become a program whose record averages around .500, with most in-conference games being close and exciting, with a division title every half-dozen years or so, and with a title maybe every dozen years or so years. In other words, most of us would gladly settle for a team whose performance would still get most Power 5 coaches fired!
10-24-2017 04:21 PM
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