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RE: State of Illinois football
(09-29-2017 09:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Massey....wrong again.

Wrong? Its a ranking system based on whats occurred, and a pretty good one at that. Couple of points here. First off, don't we always mention this every year, how the transitive property in sports does not work? I am not saying NIU is not better than Illinois, but for instance is the fact Baylor lost to Liberty by 3 points and lost to Oklahoma by 8 points mean that Oklahoma would be 5 point favorites against Liberty? I think Oklahoma is probably substantially better than Liberty than the 5 points. Secondly, I was not intending to make a direct comparison between NIU and Illinois, when they are ranked that close together with this small of a sample size on the season , it probably is foolish to say. Third point, do not use the transitive property in this way either, I like a ranking system, and thus you must hate the ranking system because you hate whatever I like and vice versa. Final point, Massey is doing something right with this system because almost to a T, the initial point spread for games is within 2 points plus or minus his differential in the game. For example right now I can tell with 100 percent confidence the NIU/Kent point spread will open somewhere close to NIU -21, or using my 2 point fudge factor -19 to -23. I think you take your hats off to someone when they can construct a system that does that.
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09-29-2017 11:16 PM
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(09-29-2017 11:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 09:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Massey....wrong again.

Wrong? Its a ranking system based on whats occurred, and a pretty good one at that. Couple of points here. First off, don't we always mention this every year, how the transitive property in sports does not work? I am not saying NIU is not better than Illinois, but for instance is the fact Baylor lost to Liberty by 3 points and lost to Oklahoma by 8 points mean that Oklahoma would be 5 point favorites against Liberty? I think Oklahoma is probably substantially better than Liberty than the 5 points. Secondly, I was not intending to make a direct comparison between NIU and Illinois, when they are ranked that close together with this small of a sample size on the season , it probably is foolish to say. Third point, do not use the transitive property in this way either, I like a ranking system, and thus you must hate the ranking system because you hate whatever I like and vice versa. Final point, Massey is doing something right with this system because almost to a T, the initial point spread for games is within 2 points plus or minus his differential in the game. For example right now I can tell with 100 percent confidence the NIU/Kent point spread will open somewhere close to NIU -21, or using my 2 point fudge factor -19 to -23. I think you take your hats off to someone when they can construct a system that does that.

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(09-29-2017 11:56 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 11:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 09:53 PM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Massey....wrong again.

Wrong? Its a ranking system based on whats occurred, and a pretty good one at that. Couple of points here. First off, don't we always mention this every year, how the transitive property in sports does not work? I am not saying NIU is not better than Illinois, but for instance is the fact Baylor lost to Liberty by 3 points and lost to Oklahoma by 8 points mean that Oklahoma would be 5 point favorites against Liberty? I think Oklahoma is probably substantially better than Liberty than the 5 points. Secondly, I was not intending to make a direct comparison between NIU and Illinois, when they are ranked that close together with this small of a sample size on the season , it probably is foolish to say. Third point, do not use the transitive property in this way either, I like a ranking system, and thus you must hate the ranking system because you hate whatever I like and vice versa. Final point, Massey is doing something right with this system because almost to a T, the initial point spread for games is within 2 points plus or minus his differential in the game. For example right now I can tell with 100 percent confidence the NIU/Kent point spread will open somewhere close to NIU -21, or using my 2 point fudge factor -19 to -23. I think you take your hats off to someone when they can construct a system that does that.

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09-30-2017 01:04 AM
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Everyone in the Big Ten looks good when playing Illinois football. Nebraska has beat the two worst teams in their conference. Let's see how they fare against the good teams.
09-30-2017 07:56 AM
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The Rockford register star has all but forgotten NIU football. All they posted online at least after the Nebraska win was an AP article. They used to do a really good job
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(09-30-2017 09:56 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The Rockford register star has all but forgotten NIU football. All they posted online at least after the Nebraska win was an AP article. They used to do a really good job

Huskies have to give them something to write about on a more consistent level. Win, and win a lot.
09-30-2017 11:00 AM
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(09-30-2017 11:00 AM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  
(09-30-2017 09:56 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The Rockford register star has all but forgotten NIU football. All they posted online at least after the Nebraska win was an AP article. They used to do a really good job

Huskies have to give them something to write about on a more consistent level. Win, and win a lot.

Isn't that what NIU has been doing, with the exception of last year?
09-30-2017 11:22 AM
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(09-30-2017 11:22 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(09-30-2017 11:00 AM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  
(09-30-2017 09:56 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The Rockford register star has all but forgotten NIU football. All they posted online at least after the Nebraska win was an AP article. They used to do a really good job

Huskies have to give them something to write about on a more consistent level. Win, and win a lot.

Isn't that what NIU has been doing, with the exception of last year?

2015 and on has been rough. Don't pick specs out of fly **** here. We need to win more, and YES folks, bowl games count. I would argue bowl games are what everyone remembers based on hype and new fun match ups. NIU does win, we need more and the games that count. Just my humble opinion.
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Many newspapers are under financial distress and barely hanging on. This could be part of the reason for the reduced coverage. I have noticed that there is no longer anyone on the phones during Carey''s weekly press conferences.
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(09-30-2017 11:30 AM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  
(09-30-2017 11:22 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  
(09-30-2017 11:00 AM)MileHighHuskie Wrote:  
(09-30-2017 09:56 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  The Rockford register star has all but forgotten NIU football. All they posted online at least after the Nebraska win was an AP article. They used to do a really good job

Huskies have to give them something to write about on a more consistent level. Win, and win a lot.

Isn't that what NIU has been doing, with the exception of last year?

2015 and on has been rough. Don't pick specs out of fly **** here. We need to win more, and YES folks, bowl games count. I would argue bowl games are what everyone remembers based on hype and new fun match ups. NIU does win, we need more and the games that count. Just my humble opinion.

Beating Nebraska is more than a flyspeck. If they can't talk about that they aren't going to talk about the results of a bowl game that ended at midnight on the west coast.
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