“Maybe from where she’s standing it’s a good news story,” Cruz said on CNN’s “New Day” Friday. “When you are drinking from a creek, it’s not a good news story.”

“I’m sorry, but that really upsets me and frustrates me,” she continued, holding back tears. “Frankly, it’s an irresponsible statement. ... Damn it, this is not a good news story. This is a people are dying story. This is a life or death story. ... This is a story of a devastation that continues to worsen because people are not getting food and water.”

http://LinkLink

Something isn't right here.

NFL PLAYERS ARE KNEELING FOR GOD'S SAKE! How can you even bring up millions of Americans being in catastrophic peril when there are real problems to deal with?!?

(09-29-2017 11:38 AM)Godzilla Wrote:  NFL PLAYERS ARE KNEELING FOR GOD'S SAKE! How can you even bring up millions of Americans being in catastrophic peril when there are real problems to deal with?!?

Unlike you leftists it seems Trump can do more than one thing at a time.

https://www.fema.gov/hurricane-maria?utm...n=disaster

Quote:FEMA search and rescue teams have visited all 78 municipalities of Puerto Rico, conducting search and rescue operations and helping to assess hospitals. FEMA US&R task forces saved or assisted 843 individuals and five pets, while searching over 2,600 structures as of September 27.

One of the many obstacles to getting help to everybody


In those areas inaccessible by road you have to fly in supplies, which limits the amounts you can carry




But by all means continue with your false leftist narrative. I'll enjoy destroying it just like I destroyed the one in the original thread.

I think anyone labeling any sort of disaster "A good news story" isn't a smart idea. It's low-hanging fruit for the opposition to attack and say you're using the plight of real people to further your agenda.

It seems like a PR mistake, which if we're being honest with ourselves President Trump is no stranger to. However, it happens to everyone. What he could have said is something like, "The people of PR are experiencing a very real, tough, and dangerous situation. U.S. Gov't efforts to provide relief have been successful and will continue until the job is done. Our men and women on the ground, sea, and air have responded very well to multiple storms and devastations in a matter of days of each other. Their efforts reflect greatly on their country as we continue to help survivors."

However, there's always the "never let a disaster go to waste" approach. I seem to remember someone using those exact words... Just can't place the name of who said it. Little help here?

The RESPONSE is a good story. Come on.

(09-29-2017 11:59 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  However, there's always the "never let a disaster go to waste" approach. I seem to remember someone using those exact words... Just can't place the name of who said it. Little help here?

"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste." - former Obama Chief of Staff and current Chiraq mayor Rahm Emmanuel.

Since the beatdown yesterday was so much fun let's do it again today with two fresh leftist patsies.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/your-milit...perations/

Quote:The U.S. military kept up round-the-clock missions on Thursday to send aircraft, troops, food and supplies to Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands as the devastated region struggles to recover after Hurricanes Maria and Irma slammed the islands.

Eight flights were scheduled Thursday as part of 24-hour operations to deliver food, water, medical supplies, communications support and power-generating equipment, officials with U.S. Northern Command said in a release.

The operations include search-and-rescue efforts, distribution of supplies and bringing power back up at hospitals, airports, ports and other facilities.

Quote:C-17 and C-5 cargo aircraft were arriving Thursday in Puerto Rico, laden with supplies such as an FAA generator to support radar control operations, a Coast Guard Mobile Medical unit and heavy-duty trucks.

"You have effectively a series of islands that are over 1,000 miles away from the continental United States. Your only fast method to resupply them is by air, because all the ships that you want to supply with are trying to get out of the way of that same hurricane rolling up to Florida," said Brig. Gen. Keith Wark, director of operations for the National Guard Bureau.

Since Hurricane Maria, Air Mobility Command has flown nearly 200 sorties, delivering about 1,500 short tons of critical equipment and supplies, such as fuel, communications equipment, generators, medical equipment, food and water, said Col. Patrick Ryder, an Air Force spokesman.

Quote:The Air National Guard has also flown 213 sorties to date, delivering about 1000 short tons of cargo, and 1200 personnel, flying C-130s, KC-135s, C-17s, HH-60s, RC-26s, C-40s. Personnel include aerial port, medical personnel, and communications personnel needed to help with relief operations.

As more ports and airfields and roads open, more resources will flow, Ryder said.



The Guard’s initial task was to get airfields open so they could deploy in. One of the key combat capabilities the ANG has are special tactics squadrons that go in and open up the air field and begin to control traffic with nothing but a radio.

“We can set up that field on land with night vision goggles and start to bring in initial capability,” Wark said. They did that in St. Thomas and St. Croix within 12 hours of the storm’s passage. Then they start to do airfield assessment analysis in difficult portions down there, he said.

“It may seem the response was slow for the air, but I would tell you that’s not. We had a critical enabler, a radar system that was knocked out in San Juan, so that had to get reestablished,” Wark said. That meant they were essentially back to the 1930s or ‘40s method of trying to sequence airplanes that were 40 or 50 miles apart to be able to get in. That limited the amount of traffic each hour they could get in safely.

U.S. Marines worked on clearing routes, distributing supplies and fuel and providing helicopter support to assist U.S. officials assessing Puerto Rican hospitals.



As of Wednesday, the U.S. Army had deployed more than 4,000 soldiers and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers civilians, 15 aircraft and more than 500 trucks as part of the response and relief efforts in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, Army officials said in a release.

The Puerto Rico Army National Guard was working to restore lines of communication and provide engineer support to clear routes for humanitarian assistance missions, Army officials said.

U.S Army Reserve units involved in the relief efforts on the ground, according to the Army release:

The 597th Quartermaster Company located in San Juan, Puerto Rico was providing laundry and shower support for evacuees.

The 602nd Area Support Medical Command was treating sick and injured patients in the Virgin Islands.

The 166th Regional Support Group was delivering commodities, medical supplies and fuel to distribution points in Puerto Rico.

The 448th Engineer Battalion was clearing routes in the western region of Puerto Rico.

"rabble rabble NFL rabble Tweets rabble rabble"

(09-29-2017 01:08 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Since the beatdown yesterday was so much fun let's do it again today with two fresh leftist patsies.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/your-milit...perations/

Quote:The U.S. military kept up round-the-clock missions on Thursday to send aircraft, troops, food and supplies to Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands as the devastated region struggles to recover after Hurricanes Maria and Irma slammed the islands.

Eight flights were scheduled Thursday as part of 24-hour operations to deliver food, water, medical supplies, communications support and power-generating equipment, officials with U.S. Northern Command said in a release.

The operations include search-and-rescue efforts, distribution of supplies and bringing power back up at hospitals, airports, ports and other facilities.

Quote:C-17 and C-5 cargo aircraft were arriving Thursday in Puerto Rico, laden with supplies such as an FAA generator to support radar control operations, a Coast Guard Mobile Medical unit and heavy-duty trucks.

"You have effectively a series of islands that are over 1,000 miles away from the continental United States. Your only fast method to resupply them is by air, because all the ships that you want to supply with are trying to get out of the way of that same hurricane rolling up to Florida," said Brig. Gen. Keith Wark, director of operations for the National Guard Bureau.

Since Hurricane Maria, Air Mobility Command has flown nearly 200 sorties, delivering about 1,500 short tons of critical equipment and supplies, such as fuel, communications equipment, generators, medical equipment, food and water, said Col. Patrick Ryder, an Air Force spokesman.

Quote:The Air National Guard has also flown 213 sorties to date, delivering about 1000 short tons of cargo, and 1200 personnel, flying C-130s, KC-135s, C-17s, HH-60s, RC-26s, C-40s. Personnel include aerial port, medical personnel, and communications personnel needed to help with relief operations.

As more ports and airfields and roads open, more resources will flow, Ryder said.



The Guard’s initial task was to get airfields open so they could deploy in. One of the key combat capabilities the ANG has are special tactics squadrons that go in and open up the air field and begin to control traffic with nothing but a radio.

“We can set up that field on land with night vision goggles and start to bring in initial capability,” Wark said. They did that in St. Thomas and St. Croix within 12 hours of the storm’s passage. Then they start to do airfield assessment analysis in difficult portions down there, he said.

“It may seem the response was slow for the air, but I would tell you that’s not. We had a critical enabler, a radar system that was knocked out in San Juan, so that had to get reestablished,” Wark said. That meant they were essentially back to the 1930s or ‘40s method of trying to sequence airplanes that were 40 or 50 miles apart to be able to get in. That limited the amount of traffic each hour they could get in safely.

U.S. Marines worked on clearing routes, distributing supplies and fuel and providing helicopter support to assist U.S. officials assessing Puerto Rican hospitals.



As of Wednesday, the U.S. Army had deployed more than 4,000 soldiers and U.S. Army Corps of Engineers civilians, 15 aircraft and more than 500 trucks as part of the response and relief efforts in Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands, Army officials said in a release.

The Puerto Rico Army National Guard was working to restore lines of communication and provide engineer support to clear routes for humanitarian assistance missions, Army officials said.

U.S Army Reserve units involved in the relief efforts on the ground, according to the Army release:

The 597th Quartermaster Company located in San Juan, Puerto Rico was providing laundry and shower support for evacuees.

The 602nd Area Support Medical Command was treating sick and injured patients in the Virgin Islands.

The 166th Regional Support Group was delivering commodities, medical supplies and fuel to distribution points in Puerto Rico.

The 448th Engineer Battalion was clearing routes in the western region of Puerto Rico.

"rabble rabble NFL rabble Tweets rabble rabble"

Thanks. I'm forwarding this to my wife. She still watches NBC and CNN and was fussing about nothing being done. Her company has business operations down there, so she knows things are pretty bad.

Now what is being done isn't enough to relieve a lot of the suffering, but it may be all that is feasible. It was a bad disaster.

(09-29-2017 11:50 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 11:38 AM)Godzilla Wrote:  NFL PLAYERS ARE KNEELING FOR GOD'S SAKE! How can you even bring up millions of Americans being in catastrophic peril when there are real problems to deal with?!?

Unlike you leftists it seems Trump can do more than one thing at a time.

https://www.fema.gov/hurricane-maria?utm...n=disaster

Quote:FEMA search and rescue teams have visited all 78 municipalities of Puerto Rico, conducting search and rescue operations and helping to assess hospitals. FEMA US&R task forces saved or assisted 843 individuals and five pets, while searching over 2,600 structures as of September 27.

One of the many obstacles to getting help to everybody


In those areas inaccessible by road you have to fly in supplies, which limits the amounts you can carry




But by all means continue with your false leftist narrative. I'll enjoy destroying it just like I destroyed the one in the original thread.

Trump can do more than one thing at a time?

(09-29-2017 11:50 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 11:38 AM)Godzilla Wrote:  NFL PLAYERS ARE KNEELING FOR GOD'S SAKE! How can you even bring up millions of Americans being in catastrophic peril when there are real problems to deal with?!?

Unlike you leftists it seems Trump can do more than one thing at a time.

https://www.fema.gov/hurricane-maria?utm...n=disaster

Quote:FEMA search and rescue teams have visited all 78 municipalities of Puerto Rico, conducting search and rescue operations and helping to assess hospitals. FEMA US&R task forces saved or assisted 843 individuals and five pets, while searching over 2,600 structures as of September 27.

One of the many obstacles to getting help to everybody


In those areas inaccessible by road you have to fly in supplies, which limits the amounts you can carry




But by all means continue with your false leftist narrative. I'll enjoy destroying it just like I destroyed the one in the original thread.

I know you're trying to defend dear leader but you are missing the point. Nobody is saying there hasn't been any response or assistance... they are saying it's been to slow and inadequate. There is no denying that it has been and to say the obstacles are to great to overcome and get much greater help to suffering Americans is ridiculous. Pretty clear that instead of focusing his attention and using his platform on important issues he has decided to pick a fight with football players and focus America's attention on that... I get it though, Trump's snowflake base is much more interested in being outraged at football players than facing real issues.

This was a real chance for Tbag to earn political points by showing America that he will do everything in his power to help Americans regardless of race, economic status, or language because they are still Americans. Instead he has acted slowly and appears to not really give a damn. Pathetic.

Hey, at least people arnt talking about the failure and ineptitude of the latest attempt to repeal and replace right? Why should we talk about NK threatening to shoot down our aircraft when there are KNEELERS to chastise?!?

As much as I find it funny to see republican snowflakes come out of the woodworks to cry about how the NFL should be a safe space I would rather them focus on helping Americans in need.

(09-29-2017 12:01 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  The RESPONSE is a good story. Come on.

The best response, believe me.

Puerto Rico should be an independent island nation - same for the U.S. Virgin Islands. That said, I think the U.S. is doing the best it can given the circumstances. Since the people living in Puerto Rico are U.S. citizens, then WTF are they still doing there and not trying to move the U.S. mainland away from these storms? NFW should they rebuild those homes only to see future storms flatten them again. Move to the mainland or rely on the charity of the U.S. gov't and other private groups. Since it's obvious that they are in a very sensitive area for flooding and hurricanes, they should no longer have the right to be rebuilt by the U.S. Unlike an independent island nation, there is zero excuse for Puerto Ricans to remain in harms way like they do currently. This is another one of those "flood insurance" and "repeat hurricane" situations where idiots need to move to safer places to live.

I hope like hell as many people on the island are helped as quickly as humanly possible; however, my sympathy for the aftermath (rebuild) is at zero. GTF off the island. It's dangerous...

(09-29-2017 10:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  “Maybe from where she’s standing it’s a good news story,” Cruz said on CNN’s “New Day” Friday. “When you are drinking from a creek, it’s not a good news story.”

“I’m sorry, but that really upsets me and frustrates me,” she continued, holding back tears. “Frankly, it’s an irresponsible statement. ... Damn it, this is not a good news story. This is a people are dying story. This is a life or death story. ... This is a story of a devastation that continues to worsen because people are not getting food and water.”

http://LinkLink

Something isn't right here.

lol, what a farce. If it wasn't a good news story CNN wouldn't be covering it nonstop. Freaking hypocrite.

5000 people there now to help 3.5 million...

Lt. Gen Buchanan:

Quote:"To answer your question, no it's not enough. In particular aviation, we got 25 federal military helicopters here and were bringing in more. That's not enough.

I can't believe how slow this is happening.

(09-29-2017 03:09 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  5000 people there now to help 3.5 million...

Lt. Gen Buchanan:

Quote:"To answer your question, no it's not enough. In particular aviation, we got 25 federal military helicopters here and were bringing in more. That's not enough.

I can't believe how slow this is happening.

I would never have been fast enough. Folks seem to think these operations can be planned and executed on a moment's notice. Help is on the way but I agree it's hard to have patience when one has no water/electricity/supplies, etc.

(09-29-2017 03:09 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  5000 people there now to help 3.5 million...

Lt. Gen Buchanan:

Quote:"To answer your question, no it's not enough. In particular aviation, we got 25 federal military helicopters here and were bringing in more. That's not enough.

I can't believe how slow this is happening.

We will never be able to do it fast this way. It would be faster to take the people off the island.

(09-29-2017 03:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 03:09 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  5000 people there now to help 3.5 million...
Lt. Gen Buchanan:

Quote:"To answer your question, no it's not enough. In particular aviation, we got 25 federal military helicopters here and were bringing in more. That's not enough.

I can't believe how slow this is happening.

I would never have been fast enough. Folks seem to think these operations can be planned and executed on a moment's notice. Help is on the way but I agree it's hard to have patience when one has no water/electricity/supplies, etc.

I would guess that the people complaining about how slowly this is happening have zero concept of what is actually involved in a disaster relief effort.

For this who think this is too slow, exactly what would you do to make it faster? How?

(09-29-2017 04:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 03:42 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 03:09 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  5000 people there now to help 3.5 million...
Lt. Gen Buchanan:

Quote:"To answer your question, no it's not enough. In particular aviation, we got 25 federal military helicopters here and were bringing in more. That's not enough.

I can't believe how slow this is happening.

I would never have been fast enough. Folks seem to think these operations can be planned and executed on a moment's notice. Help is on the way but I agree it's hard to have patience when one has no water/electricity/supplies, etc.

I would guess that the people complaining about how slowly this is happening have zero concept of what is actually involved in a disaster relief effort.

For this who think this is too slow, exactly what would you do to make it faster? How?

They probably think Blanco and Nagin did a good job.

Jeb Bush dealt with a worse hurricane with the same FEMA and there were no complaints.

(09-29-2017 11:50 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 11:38 AM)Godzilla Wrote:  NFL PLAYERS ARE KNEELING FOR GOD'S SAKE! How can you even bring up millions of Americans being in catastrophic peril when there are real problems to deal with?!?

Unlike you leftists it seems Trump can do more than one thing at a time.

https://www.fema.gov/hurricane-maria?utm...n=disaster

Quote:FEMA search and rescue teams have visited all 78 municipalities of Puerto Rico, conducting search and rescue operations and helping to assess hospitals. FEMA US&R task forces saved or assisted 843 individuals and five pets, while searching over 2,600 structures as of September 27.

One of the many obstacles to getting help to everybody


In those areas inaccessible by road you have to fly in supplies, which limits the amounts you can carry




But by all means continue with your false leftist narrative. I'll enjoy destroying it just like I destroyed the one in the original thread.

Keep on, keeping on with the beat-down.

But, clearly issuing a tweet here and there is all time consuming.

(09-29-2017 02:38 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 11:50 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-29-2017 11:38 AM)Godzilla Wrote:  NFL PLAYERS ARE KNEELING FOR GOD'S SAKE! How can you even bring up millions of Americans being in catastrophic peril when there are real problems to deal with?!?

Unlike you leftists it seems Trump can do more than one thing at a time.

https://www.fema.gov/hurricane-maria?utm...n=disaster

Quote:FEMA search and rescue teams have visited all 78 municipalities of Puerto Rico, conducting search and rescue operations and helping to assess hospitals. FEMA US&R task forces saved or assisted 843 individuals and five pets, while searching over 2,600 structures as of September 27.

One of the many obstacles to getting help to everybody


In those areas inaccessible by road you have to fly in supplies, which limits the amounts you can carry




But by all means continue with your false leftist narrative. I'll enjoy destroying it just like I destroyed the one in the original thread.

I know you're trying to defend dear leader but you are missing the point. Nobody is saying there hasn't been any response or assistance... they are saying it's been to slow and inadequate. There is no denying that it has been and to say the obstacles are to great to overcome and get much greater help to suffering Americans is ridiculous. Pretty clear that instead of focusing his attention and using his platform on important issues he has decided to pick a fight with football players and focus America's attention on that... I get it though, Trump's snowflake base is much more interested in being outraged at football players than facing real issues.

This was a real chance for Tbag to earn political points by showing America that he will do everything in his power to help Americans regardless of race, economic status, or language because they are still Americans. Instead he has acted slowly and appears to not really give a damn. Pathetic.

Hey, at least people arnt talking about the failure and ineptitude of the latest attempt to repeal and replace right? Why should we talk about NK threatening to shoot down our aircraft when there are KNEELERS to chastise?!?

As much as I find it funny to see republican snowflakes come out of the woodworks to cry about how the NFL should be a safe space I would rather them focus on helping Americans in need.

Well, then clearly you are a better logistical manager than our men and women in the US Armed forces, FEMA and First Responders.

So, in your expert opinion what should have been done differently, and what would you now be doing differently?

As to the second bolded idiotic statement, what possible evidence/examples do you have of any of that? Who's avoiding "facing real issues"?

Those men and women flying round the clock, working 16 hr shifts, saving lives and clearing debris 1000+ miles from home are not facing real issues?

So, what would you do differently and clearly, better?

This one ought to be fascinating.