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(09-28-2017 03:57 PM)eaglewraith Wrote:  
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(09-28-2017 02:12 PM)JCGSU Wrote:  Well with streaming you will know exactly how many folks are watching certain teams down to the user account. This is probably going to be really good for G5's with real followings not so good for those teams P5 or G5 with no fan bases riding the coat tails of the conference mates.

This is why anytime and every time your team is being streamed, any sport, tune in and watch, even in the background. As long as we are in the same conference, the same goes for conference mates.

I do it so I can spy on all ya'll.

I do this, I always stream at least part of every App event I see on ESPN3 , even if it's days later, as well as every SBC game.
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(09-28-2017 07:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 06:26 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 05:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 12:29 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Saw this on the Realignment Board and thought it would be of interest here. My degree is in broadcasting and I maintain numerous contacts in the industry and in college athletics administration. From what all I've been told over the last few years I am convinced streaming as the future for G5 schools. Although this is written with the Big 12 in mind the once big pool of cash has dried up for G5 and regional realignment is going to be a necessity.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ealignment

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Thats not a good thing. There aint no windfall there.

There's no windfall under the current model, either. Realignment driven by streaming would at least allow things to get more regional.

I've said time and again: Who does it make more sense for App to be playing sports against: ULM or Old Dominion? Louisiana or Marshall? Texas State or Charlotte? I'm content with the Sun Belt membership as it is (although it would be nice for us to compile some of those things called non-conference W's), but I'd be happier with geography that makes better sense. There isn't a lot of money to be made for either the schools in C-USA or in the SBC, so minimizing travel costs and maximizing local/regional interest seems to be the wise move.

(What's the over/under for how fast La. Tech fans reply in protest of my idea?)

No...but on traditional cable/broadcast tv there is at least the opportunity for a mass audience. The trouble with streaming is that streaming is a niche on demand audience. You need to be looking for a specific game at a specific time to find it---and under this model---you'll also likely need to be willing to pay for it. That's not a recipe for developing and growing a fan base.

For the AAC, it's different. You guys are the strongest G5 with the highest attendance and best on TV ratings. You guys have leverage to command a respectable amount of exposure on decent channels for at least some of your games. For the Sun Belt, the best we usually can command is ESPNU. ESPN2 or ESPN are possible if we host a really good P5 game at noon when there aren't other big games.

For the Sun Belt, and C-USA for that matter, TV options pay very little and have very little opportunity for a large audience. We'd be better off staying with ESPN3 or going to Facebook/Google/Twitter/Amazon/other streaming service tahn we would with something like BeIn. There's not a large audience potential with that channel or with CBSSN. We are not AAC and are certainly not P5, where we can get some decent money and get on ESPN or ABC or Fox regularly. Streaming at least gives us options to be more available, and encourages a more geographically, fan, and student friendly conference alignment.
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(09-29-2017 09:04 AM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 07:25 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 06:26 PM)Michael in Raleigh Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 05:37 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 12:29 PM)AppManDG Wrote:  Saw this on the Realignment Board and thought it would be of interest here. My degree is in broadcasting and I maintain numerous contacts in the industry and in college athletics administration. From what all I've been told over the last few years I am convinced streaming as the future for G5 schools. Although this is written with the Big 12 in mind the once big pool of cash has dried up for G5 and regional realignment is going to be a necessity.
https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ealignment

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Thats not a good thing. There aint no windfall there.

There's no windfall under the current model, either. Realignment driven by streaming would at least allow things to get more regional.

I've said time and again: Who does it make more sense for App to be playing sports against: ULM or Old Dominion? Louisiana or Marshall? Texas State or Charlotte? I'm content with the Sun Belt membership as it is (although it would be nice for us to compile some of those things called non-conference W's), but I'd be happier with geography that makes better sense. There isn't a lot of money to be made for either the schools in C-USA or in the SBC, so minimizing travel costs and maximizing local/regional interest seems to be the wise move.

(What's the over/under for how fast La. Tech fans reply in protest of my idea?)

No...but on traditional cable/broadcast tv there is at least the opportunity for a mass audience. The trouble with streaming is that streaming is a niche on demand audience. You need to be looking for a specific game at a specific time to find it---and under this model---you'll also likely need to be willing to pay for it. That's not a recipe for developing and growing a fan base.

For the AAC, it's different. You guys are the strongest G5 with the highest attendance and best on TV ratings. You guys have leverage to command a respectable amount of exposure on decent channels for at least some of your games. For the Sun Belt, the best we usually can command is ESPNU. ESPN2 or ESPN are possible if we host a really good P5 game at noon when there aren't other big games.

For the Sun Belt, and C-USA for that matter, TV options pay very little and have very little opportunity for a large audience. We'd be better off staying with ESPN3 or going to Facebook/Google/Twitter/Amazon/other streaming service tahn we would with something like BeIn. There's not a large audience potential with that channel or with CBSSN. We are not AAC and are certainly not P5, where we can get some decent money and get on ESPN or ABC or Fox regularly. Streaming at least gives us options to be more available, and encourages a more geographically, fan, and student friendly conference alignment.

If hear what your saying, but as just feel the G5 in general needs a model that is conducive to building thier individual school fan bases. For instance, while a more regional conference might not be a great fit for ESPN---they might be a fantastic fit for a FOX regional network like Fox-SW. I just feel like you've got to be on an easily identifiable cable/broadcast network for an area in order to bring in the casual fan. That gives a school/conference the ability to expand its fanbase by creating new fans. I wouldn't be against sepeerating cable and digital rights. Sell the cable rights to a regional carrier and sell the digital rights to show a digital mirror of the regional feed to someone like ESPN3 or Amazon.
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(09-28-2017 02:03 PM)I AM an Eagle! Wrote:  Take the 10 best schools between CUSA and SBC (including Georgia Southern) and lump the remaining schools (including Georgia State) together and we're good to go. FIU, FAU, Charlotte, Georgia State...all interchangeable.

So you are saying they can all beat you two seasons in a row and win an NCAA Tourney BB game.
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The proliferation of streaming regional content targeting the regional audience will dramatically change the CFB landscape. This is the language that gets every presidents attention. Follow the money or regional rivalry opportunities. Nationally televised P5 games will have a much more difficult go of it competing with laser focused and well arranged regional rivalry head to head game times. Marketeers are more often looking to create critical mass in markets one state or region at a time to make better use of resources. This works and keeps a healthy environment going forward for the G5. This new streaming world is good for the G5 in many ways.
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(09-29-2017 09:28 AM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 02:03 PM)I AM an Eagle! Wrote:  Take the 10 best schools between CUSA and SBC (including Georgia Southern) and lump the remaining schools (including Georgia State) together and we're good to go. FIU, FAU, Charlotte, Georgia State...all interchangeable.

So you are saying they can all beat you two seasons in a row and win an NCAA Tourney BB game.

04-bow

That is, as of right now, a very true. Honestly those schools are a better fit and more like minded right? You could rebuild the Metro conference. We will be the rural conference (sort of). But either way it will be about the same. Just some schools have greater support than others and different academic focuses. 04-cheers
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I have argued for several years now that the model for sports is going to look a great deal like the model for music.

Superstars get huge guaranteed contracts. Everyone else gets paid for their music based on sales minus a commission to the platform selling it or will receive a percentage of a provider's monthly subscription fee based on listens or in the case watches or you sell direct to the consumer.

I believe "cord cutting" is over-hyped as a concept. The data seems to indicate that a lot of the people ditching satellite and cable are replacing it with Sling, Vue, Google's TV product, Direct TV's online product etc. Those products are simply cable as you have always known it with the only difference is you pay someone else to get the product to your house. With cable and satellite you pay the company for the programming AND the delivery infrastructure. The other companies are selling the programming and you are responsible for paying someone else for the delivery infrastructure (your internet subscription).

When the "music model" comes in (if it does) geography and markets are irrelevant to the revenue of video. Geography only matters to the expenses of the school and travel potential. The brand of the opponent matters far more than how many people live within an hour of the school because the opponent's brand value will determine willingness to purchase a ticket or curiosity to tune in.
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(09-29-2017 11:17 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I believe "cord cutting" is over-hyped as a concept. The data seems to indicate that a lot of the people ditching satellite and cable are replacing it with Sling, Vue, Google's TV product, Direct TV's online product etc. Those products are simply cable as you have always known it with the only difference is you pay someone else to get the product to your house. With cable and satellite you pay the company for the programming AND the delivery infrastructure. The other companies are selling the programming and you are responsible for paying someone else for the delivery infrastructure (your internet subscription).


The future is going to be people hand picking exactly what channels they want, and streaming them over devices like AppleTV. There won't be "channels" anymore. Just apps. I wouldn't be surprised if we continue to see deals like Facebook has with MWC, or conferences operating their own streaming service conference wide for a fee. Completely removing the middle man. Give me a streaming service where I can just subscribe directly to ESPN for $10-15 a month and watch the number of cable subscribers implode.
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(09-29-2017 11:17 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I have argued for several years now that the model for sports is going to look a great deal like the model for music.

Superstars get huge guaranteed contracts. Everyone else gets paid for their music based on sales minus a commission to the platform selling it or will receive a percentage of a provider's monthly subscription fee based on listens or in the case watches or you sell direct to the consumer.

I believe "cord cutting" is over-hyped as a concept. The data seems to indicate that a lot of the people ditching satellite and cable are replacing it with Sling, Vue, Google's TV product, Direct TV's online product etc. Those products are simply cable as you have always known it with the only difference is you pay someone else to get the product to your house. With cable and satellite you pay the company for the programming AND the delivery infrastructure. The other companies are selling the programming and you are responsible for paying someone else for the delivery infrastructure (your internet subscription).

When the "music model" comes in (if it does) geography and markets are irrelevant to the revenue of video. Geography only matters to the expenses of the school and travel potential. The brand of the opponent matters far more than how many people live within an hour of the school because the opponent's brand value will determine willingness to purchase a ticket or curiosity to tune in.

Idk. Music is different. For the individual user---a songs value to an individual can last for a lifetime and it is easily ripped and stored. Most of the value in the music industry was destroyed when a generation of kids grew up thinking music was free on the internet. The music model is what it is because the music is so easy to steal/share. In fact, the vast majority of value is now in live tours. The same devaluation has occurred in the print media. News is largely perceived as being something that is free on the internet.

Sports rights are different. They are good for about 3 hours while the game is being played and nobody is all that interested in downloading them or watching them after the game is decided. The media companies have done a better (though not great) job of protecting the value of those rights by making them relatively difficult to get for free. You can do it---but the quality is iffy and the virus threat is real.

I think the final model for streaming will be "eat what you kill" and it will gradually devolve from conference deals into individual school deals. Frankly, Im not even sure there will be any reason for "Garth Brooks" or Taylor Swift type deals and crappy deal for everyone else. I tend to think that the Garth Brooks/Taylor Swift schools will go in house and cut out the middle man. They dont need them to produce games, create streams, or drive the value of the content. My feeling is the ESPN's of the world will then, out of necessity, likely become the aggregator for the NON-Brooks/Swift type schools. The model I expect would have schools being paid based on the number of viewed minutes per stream with ESPN providing a wide mass audience platform to help those schools drive value.
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(09-29-2017 09:42 AM)Oldyeller Wrote:  The proliferation of streaming regional content targeting the regional audience will dramatically change the CFB landscape. This is the language that gets every presidents attention. Follow the money or regional rivalry opportunities. Nationally televised P5 games will have a much more difficult go of it competing with laser focused and well arranged regional rivalry head to head game times. Marketeers are more often looking to create critical mass in markets one state or region at a time to make better use of resources. This works and keeps a healthy environment going forward for the G5. This new streaming world is good for the G5 in many ways.

Without question App / Wake was the most highly publicised game in NC last week and I was surprised nobody picked it up. If I'm in charge at Spectrum I'm looking to pick up these intrastate not on air games and showing them across the state wide networks.
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(09-29-2017 03:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 11:17 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I have argued for several years now that the model for sports is going to look a great deal like the model for music.

Superstars get huge guaranteed contracts. Everyone else gets paid for their music based on sales minus a commission to the platform selling it or will receive a percentage of a provider's monthly subscription fee based on listens or in the case watches or you sell direct to the consumer.

I believe "cord cutting" is over-hyped as a concept. The data seems to indicate that a lot of the people ditching satellite and cable are replacing it with Sling, Vue, Google's TV product, Direct TV's online product etc. Those products are simply cable as you have always known it with the only difference is you pay someone else to get the product to your house. With cable and satellite you pay the company for the programming AND the delivery infrastructure. The other companies are selling the programming and you are responsible for paying someone else for the delivery infrastructure (your internet subscription).

When the "music model" comes in (if it does) geography and markets are irrelevant to the revenue of video. Geography only matters to the expenses of the school and travel potential. The brand of the opponent matters far more than how many people live within an hour of the school because the opponent's brand value will determine willingness to purchase a ticket or curiosity to tune in.

Idk. Music is different. For the individual user---a songs value to an individual can last for a lifetime and it is easily ripped and stored. Most of the value in the music industry was destroyed when a generation of kids grew up thinking music was free on the internet. The music model is what it is because the music is so easy to steal/share. In fact, the vast majority of value is now in live tours. The same devaluation has occurred in the print media. News is largely perceived as being something that is free on the internet.

Sports rights are different. They are good for about 3 hours while the game is being played and nobody is all that interested in downloading them or watching them after the game is decided. The media companies have done a better (though not great) job of protecting the value of those rights by making them relatively difficult to get for free. You can do it---but the quality is iffy and the virus threat is real.

I think the final model for streaming will be "eat what you kill" and it will gradually devolve from conference deals into individual school deals. Frankly, Im not even sure there will be any reason for "Garth Brooks" or Taylor Swift type deals and crappy deal for everyone else. I tend to think that the Garth Brooks/Taylor Swift schools will go in house and cut out the middle man. They dont need them to produce games, create streams, or drive the value of the content. My feeling is the ESPN's of the world will then, out of necessity, likely become the aggregator for the NON-Brooks/Swift type schools. The model I expect would have schools being paid based on the number of viewed minutes per stream with ESPN providing a wide mass audience platform to help those schools drive value.

ESPN or Amazon or whomever is probably going to offer you a variety of streaming packages. Just like iTunes Music or Pandora or Spotify, not every thing will be in the listen all you want package. There will be content that is only available by upgrading or making a PPV payment.

So for example Houston this year. You would likely pay X dollars and you get all 8 UH conference games maybe as a bonus they throw in Rice and UTSA (since odds are same company would have CUSA package). Arizona maybe you pay the P-12 provider for that game if it is a different company or the same company owns it but they see a chance to make more money. Texas Tech while owned by the AAC provider, the company chooses to not include it in the subscription based package and the home viewer has to pay for that independently.

Bundling is generally to the favor of the content rights holder. So you may not see school specific packages. Maybe instead you get a "SW Football subscription" that offers the Big XII and any Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas G5 teams. You can cook up hundreds of possible variants but you ain't getting the whole banana unless you cough up quite a bit.

That's how I see it modeling after the music market.
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(09-29-2017 03:36 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 03:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 11:17 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I have argued for several years now that the model for sports is going to look a great deal like the model for music.

Superstars get huge guaranteed contracts. Everyone else gets paid for their music based on sales minus a commission to the platform selling it or will receive a percentage of a provider's monthly subscription fee based on listens or in the case watches or you sell direct to the consumer.

I believe "cord cutting" is over-hyped as a concept. The data seems to indicate that a lot of the people ditching satellite and cable are replacing it with Sling, Vue, Google's TV product, Direct TV's online product etc. Those products are simply cable as you have always known it with the only difference is you pay someone else to get the product to your house. With cable and satellite you pay the company for the programming AND the delivery infrastructure. The other companies are selling the programming and you are responsible for paying someone else for the delivery infrastructure (your internet subscription).

When the "music model" comes in (if it does) geography and markets are irrelevant to the revenue of video. Geography only matters to the expenses of the school and travel potential. The brand of the opponent matters far more than how many people live within an hour of the school because the opponent's brand value will determine willingness to purchase a ticket or curiosity to tune in.

Idk. Music is different. For the individual user---a songs value to an individual can last for a lifetime and it is easily ripped and stored. Most of the value in the music industry was destroyed when a generation of kids grew up thinking music was free on the internet. The music model is what it is because the music is so easy to steal/share. In fact, the vast majority of value is now in live tours. The same devaluation has occurred in the print media. News is largely perceived as being something that is free on the internet.

Sports rights are different. They are good for about 3 hours while the game is being played and nobody is all that interested in downloading them or watching them after the game is decided. The media companies have done a better (though not great) job of protecting the value of those rights by making them relatively difficult to get for free. You can do it---but the quality is iffy and the virus threat is real.

I think the final model for streaming will be "eat what you kill" and it will gradually devolve from conference deals into individual school deals. Frankly, Im not even sure there will be any reason for "Garth Brooks" or Taylor Swift type deals and crappy deal for everyone else. I tend to think that the Garth Brooks/Taylor Swift schools will go in house and cut out the middle man. They dont need them to produce games, create streams, or drive the value of the content. My feeling is the ESPN's of the world will then, out of necessity, likely become the aggregator for the NON-Brooks/Swift type schools. The model I expect would have schools being paid based on the number of viewed minutes per stream with ESPN providing a wide mass audience platform to help those schools drive value.

ESPN or Amazon or whomever is probably going to offer you a variety of streaming packages. Just like iTunes Music or Pandora or Spotify, not every thing will be in the listen all you want package. There will be content that is only available by upgrading or making a PPV payment.

So for example Houston this year. You would likely pay X dollars and you get all 8 UH conference games maybe as a bonus they throw in Rice and UTSA (since odds are same company would have CUSA package). Arizona maybe you pay the P-12 provider for that game if it is a different company or the same company owns it but they see a chance to make more money. Texas Tech while owned by the AAC provider, the company chooses to not include it in the subscription based package and the home viewer has to pay for that independently.

Bundling is generally to the favor of the content rights holder. So you may not see school specific packages. Maybe instead you get a "SW Football subscription" that offers the Big XII and any Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas G5 teams. You can cook up hundreds of possible variants but you ain't getting the whole banana unless you cough up quite a bit.

That's how I see it modeling after the music market.

Breaking away or out of conference and creating your own deal will never happen long term. Those with less together make more than those few that could benefit. Deals such as this will be the catalyst to the inevitable realignment. Academics will have a voice. Compromise the likes of Vandy or Ga Tech and create waves too difficult to sustain your money train. The caveat being political influence. Never happen.
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(09-29-2017 05:39 PM)Oldyeller Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 03:36 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 03:03 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 11:17 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  I have argued for several years now that the model for sports is going to look a great deal like the model for music.

Superstars get huge guaranteed contracts. Everyone else gets paid for their music based on sales minus a commission to the platform selling it or will receive a percentage of a provider's monthly subscription fee based on listens or in the case watches or you sell direct to the consumer.

I believe "cord cutting" is over-hyped as a concept. The data seems to indicate that a lot of the people ditching satellite and cable are replacing it with Sling, Vue, Google's TV product, Direct TV's online product etc. Those products are simply cable as you have always known it with the only difference is you pay someone else to get the product to your house. With cable and satellite you pay the company for the programming AND the delivery infrastructure. The other companies are selling the programming and you are responsible for paying someone else for the delivery infrastructure (your internet subscription).

When the "music model" comes in (if it does) geography and markets are irrelevant to the revenue of video. Geography only matters to the expenses of the school and travel potential. The brand of the opponent matters far more than how many people live within an hour of the school because the opponent's brand value will determine willingness to purchase a ticket or curiosity to tune in.

Idk. Music is different. For the individual user---a songs value to an individual can last for a lifetime and it is easily ripped and stored. Most of the value in the music industry was destroyed when a generation of kids grew up thinking music was free on the internet. The music model is what it is because the music is so easy to steal/share. In fact, the vast majority of value is now in live tours. The same devaluation has occurred in the print media. News is largely perceived as being something that is free on the internet.

Sports rights are different. They are good for about 3 hours while the game is being played and nobody is all that interested in downloading them or watching them after the game is decided. The media companies have done a better (though not great) job of protecting the value of those rights by making them relatively difficult to get for free. You can do it---but the quality is iffy and the virus threat is real.

I think the final model for streaming will be "eat what you kill" and it will gradually devolve from conference deals into individual school deals. Frankly, Im not even sure there will be any reason for "Garth Brooks" or Taylor Swift type deals and crappy deal for everyone else. I tend to think that the Garth Brooks/Taylor Swift schools will go in house and cut out the middle man. They dont need them to produce games, create streams, or drive the value of the content. My feeling is the ESPN's of the world will then, out of necessity, likely become the aggregator for the NON-Brooks/Swift type schools. The model I expect would have schools being paid based on the number of viewed minutes per stream with ESPN providing a wide mass audience platform to help those schools drive value.

ESPN or Amazon or whomever is probably going to offer you a variety of streaming packages. Just like iTunes Music or Pandora or Spotify, not every thing will be in the listen all you want package. There will be content that is only available by upgrading or making a PPV payment.

So for example Houston this year. You would likely pay X dollars and you get all 8 UH conference games maybe as a bonus they throw in Rice and UTSA (since odds are same company would have CUSA package). Arizona maybe you pay the P-12 provider for that game if it is a different company or the same company owns it but they see a chance to make more money. Texas Tech while owned by the AAC provider, the company chooses to not include it in the subscription based package and the home viewer has to pay for that independently.

Bundling is generally to the favor of the content rights holder. So you may not see school specific packages. Maybe instead you get a "SW Football subscription" that offers the Big XII and any Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Arkansas G5 teams. You can cook up hundreds of possible variants but you ain't getting the whole banana unless you cough up quite a bit.

That's how I see it modeling after the music market.

Breaking away or out of conference and creating your own deal will never happen long term. Those with less together make more than those few that could benefit. Deals such as this will be the catalyst to the inevitable realignment. Academics will have a voice. Compromise the likes of Vandy or Ga Tech and create waves too difficult to sustain your money train. The caveat being political influence. Never happen.

seems like an fbs conference like the belt could put something together..even the BigSky conference has a channel here in dfw on uverse. I'd much rather follow the belt than tune to montana vs idaho state volleyball etc. how many followers of the bigsky could there be in this area..just sayin
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RE: Streaming Could Kick-Start Next Round of Realignment
(09-29-2017 09:28 AM)StanMolsonMan Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 02:03 PM)I AM an Eagle! Wrote:  Take the 10 best schools between CUSA and SBC (including Georgia Southern) and lump the remaining schools (including Georgia State) together and we're good to go. FIU, FAU, Charlotte, Georgia State...all interchangeable.

So you are saying they can all beat you two seasons in a row and win an NCAA Tourney BB game.

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RE: Streaming Could Kick-Start Next Round of Realignment
I think a big point in regards to cash flow is being overlooked when we talk about sports channels going directly to the subscribers. And that's advertisement dollars.

When these guys can claim to be in XMillion homes and count those that never watch sports, they aren't going to let go of that easily. And they hold the keys as they hold the rights. It is in their best interest and imop - our best interest to stay on those national channels as much as possible. ESPNU or 2 or whatever. It is national exposure and it is some revenue.

When/if they go direct to customers, not only are they going to lose a ton of money due to the loss being on basic packages. They will lose a ton of the advertising money.

Other content channels can get away with it easier BUT - the sports channels will become a very seasonal/regional $ producer.
I know I'd probably only subscribe to ESPN during football season. How many basketball only lovers will only subscribe during Bball?

Some of these sports that we watch because we already have the channel but wouldn't go out of our way to pay for will be gone from view for the most part.

Not only does ESPN lose the viewers, our front porch is less visible as a University.

We will probably get to streaming only, but it won't be good for the G5 or college football in general imop.
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RE: Streaming Could Kick-Start Next Round of Realignment
(10-02-2017 11:50 PM)The4thOption Wrote:  I think a big point in regards to cash flow is being overlooked when we talk about sports channels going directly to the subscribers. And that's advertisement dollars.

When these guys can claim to be in XMillion homes and count those that never watch sports, they aren't going to let go of that easily. And they hold the keys as they hold the rights. It is in their best interest and imop - our best interest to stay on those national channels as much as possible. ESPNU or 2 or whatever. It is national exposure and it is some revenue.

When/if they go direct to customers, not only are they going to lose a ton of money due to the loss being on basic packages. They will lose a ton of the advertising money.

Other content channels can get away with it easier BUT - the sports channels will become a very seasonal/regional $ producer.
I know I'd probably only subscribe to ESPN during football season. How many basketball only lovers will only subscribe during Bball?

Some of these sports that we watch because we already have the channel but wouldn't go out of our way to pay for will be gone from view for the most part.

Not only does ESPN lose the viewers, our front porch is less visible as a University.

We will probably get to streaming only, but it won't be good for the G5 or college football in general imop.

As far as money it does not matter as we barley get any as far as exposure ehhhh may have something but it is not like we are getting huge ratings for our games and or getting prime start times for Sat games as it is now.

ESPN 3 is streaming and has helped not hurt most Sun Belt teams as far as exposure.
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