Does this finally put to bed any notion that BM is in any way a secret USF fan? If this doesn't do it, nothing ever will...

USFFan

Hey McMurphy,

Atta-boy!

Seriously not a bad idea for cUSA, MAC, SB... The AAC is most definitely going to hang with the big boys, one way or another. We have already well established it on the field, that we belong. Keeping up IN SPITE OF the discrepancy in TV$$.

MWC could go either way, but I expect they keep up too...

Lower-level championship viewers 2016:
FCS Championship - 1.562 million
FCS Semi - 1.056 million
FCS Semi - .457 million
DII Championship - .790 million
DIII Championship - .340 million

Bowl games w fewer viewers than FCS Championship 2016:
Miami Beach, Monday 19th 1425 - .794 million
Potato Bowl, Thurs 22d 1900 - 1.143 million
Independence Bowl, NCState-Vandy, Mon 26th 1700 - 1.270 million
New Orleans Bowl Sat 17th 2100 - 1.335 million
Hawaii Bowl Sat 24th 2000 - 1.359 million
Bahamas Bowl Fri 23d 1300 - 1.371 million
New Mexico Bowl Sat 17th 1400 - 1.391 million
Camellia Bowl Sat 17th 1730 - 1.483 million
That's it. American vs G4 on a Monday afternoon before Christmas, 6 G4 vs G4 pre Christmas, and Shreveport Monday afternoon after Christmas.

Every other AAC bowl beat the FCS championship.
Tell me how a G4 playoff somehow magically gets TV dollars and viewers? Before you cite SDSU vs Houston, that drew 3.7 million not because it was billed as G4 champ vs AAC #6, but because it was billed as "two teams which were in the CFP/NY6 conversation."
Answer - it wouldn't. Dumb idea.

(09-28-2017 10:33 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 09:43 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Worse yet, Frazier, who is the only "on the record" supporter of the G5 playoff concept drops this jewel of wisdom---

Right now, every division of college football has a national championship: Power 5, FCS, Division II, Division III, NAIA and junior college. “Every division,” Frazier said, “except the Group of 5.”

So apparently, there is D2, D3, D1-FCS, D1-FBS....and D1-G5?


https://www.facebook.com/TheBrettMcMurph...6767572047

If we needed more evidence of how much of an idiot the AD at NIU is, here it is.

1. The CFP isn't even a playoff, it's a +1
2. G5 / P5 isn't a division. It's an arbitrary line in the sand.

FBS doesn't have a playoff. Every other division of college football does, except FBS.

A lot of us also think he's an idiot, no worries.

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(09-28-2017 11:26 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  Lower-level championship viewers 2016:
FCS Championship - 1.562 million
FCS Semi - 1.056 million
FCS Semi - .457 million
DII Championship - .790 million
DIII Championship - .340 million

Bowl games w fewer viewers than FCS Championship 2016:
Miami Beach, Monday 19th 1425 - .794 million
Potato Bowl, Thurs 22d 1900 - 1.143 million
Independence Bowl, NCState-Vandy, Mon 26th 1700 - 1.270 million
New Orleans Bowl Sat 17th 2100 - 1.335 million
Hawaii Bowl Sat 24th 2000 - 1.359 million
Bahamas Bowl Fri 23d 1300 - 1.371 million
New Mexico Bowl Sat 17th 1400 - 1.391 million
Camellia Bowl Sat 17th 1730 - 1.483 million
That's it. American vs G4 on a Monday afternoon before Christmas, 6 G4 vs G4 pre Christmas, and Shreveport Monday afternoon after Christmas.

Every other AAC bowl beat the FCS championship.
Tell me how a G4 playoff somehow magically gets TV dollars and viewers? Before you cite SDSU vs Houston, that drew 3.7 million not because it was billed as G4 champ vs AAC #6, but because it was billed as "two teams which were in the CFP/NY6 conversation."
Answer - it wouldn't. Dumb idea.

And its worth mentioning that the Miami Beach Bowl was played on a non-holiday weekday at 2 pm in the afternoon---meaning most college football fans were at the office when the game was being played and couldnt watch even if they wanted to.

Does anyone have a theory as to why McMurphy is so blatantly anti-AAC?

(09-28-2017 11:35 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:33 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 09:43 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Worse yet, Frazier, who is the only "on the record" supporter of the G5 playoff concept drops this jewel of wisdom---

Right now, every division of college football has a national championship: Power 5, FCS, Division II, Division III, NAIA and junior college. “Every division,” Frazier said, “except the Group of 5.”

So apparently, there is D2, D3, D1-FCS, D1-FBS....and D1-G5?


https://www.facebook.com/TheBrettMcMurph...6767572047

If we needed more evidence of how much of an idiot the AD at NIU is, here it is.

1. The CFP isn't even a playoff, it's a +1
2. G5 / P5 isn't a division. It's an arbitrary line in the sand.

FBS doesn't have a playoff. Every other division of college football does, except FBS.

A lot of us also think he's an idiot, no worries.

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But would you trade him for Compher???????

(09-28-2017 11:42 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Does anyone have a theory as to why McMurphy is so blatantly anti-AAC?

In a nutshell, because USF is in it. Here's a bit of history...

http://csnbbs.com/thread-571771-post-793...pid7933055

In looking for this, I found a thread about "why is McMurphy so anti-Big East?" Essentially any way to get revenge on USF, who he blames for his getting fired by the Tampa Tribune (RIP) is good enough.

USFFan

(09-28-2017 09:45 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  I'm sure the G4 would love that, but the AAC would not. McMurphy can take a hike. Guy has mental issues.

Nothing wrong at all with a G4 playoff, I actually like it. Just give the conference champs the opportunity to opt out if they get a NY6 invite. AAC should invite CSU, BYU, Boise and SDSU which will basically make it a moot point and cements itself in the P6.

(09-28-2017 10:55 AM)knightastic Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:52 AM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:39 AM)YNot Wrote:  This would actually be a fantastic idea for at least half of the Group of 5 and college football in general. Seriously, what chance do Eastern Michigan, San Jose St., UAB, or Georgia St. have at a national championship? Essentially none.

But, let the schools decide - FBS-I( ie, CFP and NY6 system) or FBS-II (new "G5"-level national championship). That path could actually sort out on its own the P6 thing and CFP expansion.

Then, FBS-I (P5) schools would mostly play each other, rather than propping up shiny win-loss records on the backs of multiple wins over FBS-II (G5) schools. Most AAC and MWC schools and a few other G5 might decide to stick with FBS-I.

FBS-II would likely see some realignment and callups from the FCS ranks. I'll let David St. explain what would happen to the FCS.

The day Houston runs up the white flag and accepts second tier status in exchange for a few crumbs from the P5 table is the day I am done with college athletics.

Same.

cosine

(09-28-2017 11:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 11:35 AM)Stay Cool Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:33 AM)Kruciff Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 09:43 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Worse yet, Frazier, who is the only "on the record" supporter of the G5 playoff concept drops this jewel of wisdom---

Right now, every division of college football has a national championship: Power 5, FCS, Division II, Division III, NAIA and junior college. “Every division,” Frazier said, “except the Group of 5.”

So apparently, there is D2, D3, D1-FCS, D1-FBS....and D1-G5?


https://www.facebook.com/TheBrettMcMurph...6767572047

If we needed more evidence of how much of an idiot the AD at NIU is, here it is.

1. The CFP isn't even a playoff, it's a +1
2. G5 / P5 isn't a division. It's an arbitrary line in the sand.

FBS doesn't have a playoff. Every other division of college football does, except FBS.

A lot of us also think he's an idiot, no worries.

Sent from my SM-G920P using Tapatalk

But would you trade him for Compher???????

Only if an AAC invite was involved

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(09-28-2017 11:51 AM)usffan Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 11:42 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Does anyone have a theory as to why McMurphy is so blatantly anti-AAC?

In a nutshell, because USF is in it. Here's a bit of history...

http://csnbbs.com/thread-571771-post-793...pid7933055

In looking for this, I found a thread about "why is McMurphy so anti-Big East?" Essentially any way to get revenge on USF, who he blames for his getting fired by the Tampa Tribune (RIP) is good enough.

USFFan

IIRC, others had postulated that he was very angry at the Big East after they fired Marinatto, to whom he was very close to. Most specifically, he placed a lot of the blame on the football leftovers in the conference USF, UConn and Cincinnati. I've seen him tweet on more than one occasion that the football schools were the cause of the death of the old Big East.

(09-28-2017 11:57 AM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:55 AM)knightastic Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:52 AM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 10:39 AM)YNot Wrote:  This would actually be a fantastic idea for at least half of the Group of 5 and college football in general. Seriously, what chance do Eastern Michigan, San Jose St., UAB, or Georgia St. have at a national championship? Essentially none.

But, let the schools decide - FBS-I( ie, CFP and NY6 system) or FBS-II (new "G5"-level national championship). That path could actually sort out on its own the P6 thing and CFP expansion.

Then, FBS-I (P5) schools would mostly play each other, rather than propping up shiny win-loss records on the backs of multiple wins over FBS-II (G5) schools. Most AAC and MWC schools and a few other G5 might decide to stick with FBS-I.

FBS-II would likely see some realignment and callups from the FCS ranks. I'll let David St. explain what would happen to the FCS.

The day Houston runs up the white flag and accepts second tier status in exchange for a few crumbs from the P5 table is the day I am done with college athletics.

Same.

cosine

tangent

(09-28-2017 09:53 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(09-28-2017 09:50 AM)pesik Wrote:  posted 12 hours ago, less than 20likes...#irrelavant

lol...didnt even notice that.

Dude has only 780 likes on his page...hell, most of us would have more than that lol.

I'm over there giving him a hard time at every turn.

(09-28-2017 11:42 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  Does anyone have a theory as to why McMurphy is so blatantly anti-AAC?

McMurphy wrote the article that brought down Jim Leavitt at USF. The accusation was that Leavitt struck a player. Leavitt was later fired but settled with USF over his termination.

Some suggest that he has an anti-USF view, and by association an anti-AAC view or anti whatever league USF has been in.

He is the former USF beat writer for the Tampa Tribune (a now defunct paper). He was let go by the Trib (a good paper that I read daily when I was in Tampa).

Dear sweet baby Jesus, please make this happen and the AAC be a regular participant. The prospects just make me all warm inside. Imagine Houston vs Ul-M for national championship.

(09-28-2017 10:39 AM)YNot Wrote:  This would actually be a fantastic idea for at least half of the Group of 5 and college football in general. Seriously, what chance do Eastern Michigan, San Jose St., UAB, or Georgia St. have at a national championship? Essentially none.

But, let the schools decide - FBS-I( ie, CFP and NY6 system) or FBS-II (new "G5"-level national championship). That path could actually sort out on its own the P6 thing and CFP expansion.

Then, FBS-I (P5) schools would mostly play each other, rather than propping up shiny win-loss records on the backs of multiple wins over FBS-II (G5) schools. Most AAC and MWC schools and a few other G5 might decide to stick with FBS-I.

FBS-II would likely see some realignment and callups from the FCS ranks. I'll let David St. explain what would happen to the FCS.

Oh I have just the alignment! A P4 and a G4, each with their own playoff. 8 conferences of 20 schools each make up the FBS. FBS1 is the P4 and FBS2 is the G4.

I would also propose a 13 game season and no FBS team is allowed to play an FCS team. Those wins will not count.

B1G:

East- PSU, Rutgers, Maryland, UConn, Virginia

West- Texas, OU, KU, Nebraska, Iowa

South- Indiana, Purdue, Illinois, Notre Dame, Ohio State

North- Minny, Wisc, NW, Michigan, MSU

SEC:

East- UF, FSU, UGA, USC, UNC

West- A&M, TCU, Arkansas, OSU, Mizzou

South- Bama, Auburn, Miss St, Ole Miss, LSU

North- WVU, Tennessee, Vandy, UK, VT

Pac-20:

East- Colorado, KSU, ISU, Utah, BYU

West- Cal, Stanford, USC, UCLA, Hawaii

South- ASU, UA, T Tech, Houston, UNLV

North- Oregon, OSU, Washington, WSU, Boise St.

ACC:

East- NC St, Duke, WF, ECU, Navy

West- Louisville, Cincy, Memphis, Baylor, SMU

South- Miami, GT, Clemson, UCF, USF

North- BC, Pitt, Cuse, Temple, Army

AAC:

East- James Madison, ODU, Richmond, Charolette, App State

West- Tulsa, UTSA, North Texas, Rice, Texas State

South- Tulane, USM, UAB, FIU, FAU

North- Marshall, WKU, Middle Tenn, Missouri St, Chattanooga

MWC:

East- Air Force, Wyoming, Utah State, Weber St, Colorado St

West- San Diego St, Fresno, San Jose, Cal Poly, San Diego

South- New Mexico, New Mexico St, UTEP, Northern Arizona, Nevada

North- Idaho, Eastern Washington, Montana, Portland, Montana St

CUSA:

East- Wofford, William & Mary, Liberty, Coastal Carolina, Eastern Kentucky

West- Troy, So. Alabama, Jacksonville St, Louisiana Monroe, Louisiana Lafayette

South- Georgia St, Georgia Southern, Citadel, Western Carolina, Charleston Southern

North- Arkansas State, Central Arkansas, La Tech, Sam Houston, Stephen F Austin

MAC:

East- Buffalo, UMass, Delaware, New Hampshire, Maine

West- South Dakota State, North Dakota State, Northern Iowa, N. Illinois, Ball State

South- Youngstown, Kent, Miami, Ohio, Akron

North- CMU, WMU, EMU, Toledo, Bowling Green

(09-28-2017 09:45 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  I'm sure the G4 would love that, but the AAC would not. McMurphy can take a hike. Guy has mental issues.

We aren't spending $300M to be D2

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