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RE: Puerto Rico
More facts and figures to continue the leftist talking point beatdown

https://www.fema.gov/hurricane-maria?utm...n=disaster

Quote:FEMA, working in coordination with federal partners, provided millions of meals and millions of liters of water to Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands. Additional meals and water continue to arrive to the islands daily.

Quote:Mobile Emergency Response Support (MERS) communications assets and personnel continue to support the FEMA Incident Management Assistance Teams (IMAT), Urban Search and Rescue (US&R), National Disaster Medical System (NDMS), and other federal teams in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. As of September 27, 2017, there are more than 30 MERS personnel in Puerto Rico and more than 20 MERS personnel in the USVI.

A U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) mobile communications team is in Puerto Rico to help improve communications across the storm-impacted area.

Quote:FEMA search and rescue teams have accessed 90 percent of Puerto Rico, conducting search and rescue operations and helping to assess hospitals. FEMA US&R task forces saved or assisted 843 individuals and five pets, while searching over 2,600 structures as of September 27.

Quote:More than 180 Federal Law Enforcement Officers (FLEO) are in San Juan and the U.S. Virgin Islands supporting search and rescue, medical teams, and other federal responders, additional FLEOs are en route expected to arrive this week. Additional law enforcement support from New York State Police is on the ground in St. John.

Quote:The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has supported the restoration of services to seven of eight commercial airports in Puerto Rico. The FAA has restored full Air Traffic Control (ATC) services to Luis Munoz Marin International Airport in San Juan and limited ATC services to Rafael Hernandez Airport in Aguadilla. Recovery efforts are now supporting more than a dozen commercial passenger flights per day at Luis Munoz Marin International Airport in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

Quote:17 chainsaw teams (34 individuals) and one Incident Management Team (IMT) (23 individuals) from the Department of Agriculture United States Forest Service arrived in Puerto Rico Wednesday to conduct emergency road clearance and manage logistics. Nine additional teams are en route.

Quote:To bolster the delivery of fuel throughout Puerto Rico, 100 delivery trucks were dispatched by the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) carrying an estimated 275,000 gallons of diesel fuel.

Quote:Power is restored to Centro Médico Hospital in San Juan and San Pablo Hospital in Bayamón, Puerto Rico. The Governor Juan F. Luis Hospital in St. Croix and the Schneider Regional Medical Center in St. Thomas are established as mobile hospitals. More than half of dialysis centers in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands are open and accessible for patients. More critical care facilities will re-open in the coming days as power and access are restored.

Quote:The U.S. Coast Guard reports the following port statuses with additional ports opening as assessments continue:

Puerto Rico
Open: Port of San Juan, Guayanilla, Salinas, and Talboa
Open with restrictions: Arecibo, Fajardo, Culebra, Guayama, Mayaguez, and Vieques
U.S. Virgin Islands
Open:
St. Thomas: Charlotte Amalie, East Gregerie Channel, Crown Bay, West Gregerie Channel
St. Croix: Krause Lagoon, Frederiksted, Limetree Bay
Open with Restrictions:
St. Thomas: Redhook Bay
St. John: Cruz Bay

Quote:USACE coordinated transportation of more than 300 FEMA or Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) generators from across the U.S. to meet anticipated requirements in the islands. Additional generators are arriving in the coming days.
09-28-2017 02:16 PM
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RE: Puerto Rico
Kap taking it to lefties like...

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RE: Puerto Rico
(09-27-2017 08:41 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(09-27-2017 08:35 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 08:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(09-26-2017 10:17 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Every one is clearly aware that getting help to an island is way more complex than a contiguous state. That's not the point.
Right there are a lot of brown people on that island, clearly thats why time is derelict in helping them amiright... I mean he passed a disaster declaration six days ago and asked congress to get something on his desk to help them... But really he's just dragging his feet because $NonWhitePeople.
Quote:It could be just appearances
No tom, it's deliberately trying to sell a narrative despite the facts...
I'm reading today that it will take likely until mid-October to get the needed financial aid to PR. That seem timely to you?

How would you do it quicker? Should we just have airplanes fly over and dump dollar bills out the doors?

People have no concept how difficult it is to do even seemingly simple things when everything is destroyed.

Nah,

We only do that type thing when it involves Mullahs and Iran.

A little over 2 weeks to bring some financial stability back to an entire Nation/Commonwealth after the first direct hurricane hit by a storm this size in decades? Seems actually pretty surprisingly short. Especially being an island a thousand miles away and dealing with multiple disasters at once.
09-28-2017 03:32 PM
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RE: Puerto Rico
Does the PR government warehouse any emergency supplies for something like this?
09-28-2017 03:35 PM
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(09-28-2017 03:35 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Does the PR government warehouse any emergency supplies for something like this?

I'm guessing no because they have had some serious financial issues as of late. And those issues are certainly making this disaster worse.

Although unlike trump's tweet basically suggests, it's not the fault of the victims themselves.
09-28-2017 03:45 PM
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(09-27-2017 10:01 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  I am curious as to whether or not aircraft has flown over the island dropping supplies. If not, that's a major fail by all parties involved.

I get your point, but we have to remember those supplies have to land somewhere too. It's not as if there is a secured zone every XXX number of blocks or whatever where they can aim this stuff. It would still end up in certain central locations, then need to be distributed somehow.

Anyone that's traveled to some of these places even after a regular rainy season can tell you that the roads are a real challenge even then. Throw in mountains and a Cat 5 Hurricane and it's the worst of all worlds.
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RE: Puerto Rico
(09-28-2017 03:45 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 03:35 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  Does the PR government warehouse any emergency supplies for something like this?

I'm guessing no because they have had some serious financial issues as of late. And those issues are certainly making this disaster worse.

Although unlike trump's tweet basically suggests, it's not the fault of the victims themselves.

We should probably build them some hurricane proof warehouses and stock them up with supplies. Although no direct hit DR government opened up shelters with food, water, etc., granted they are a country. Bulk of their population seems protected in the South, Santo Domingo.
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RE: Puerto Rico
It's difficult to imagine.
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(09-28-2017 03:58 PM)Claw Wrote:  It's difficult to imagine.

I wonder what Wall St. and Hedge Funds who own all of the PR debt are thinking right now?
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(09-28-2017 02:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  More facts and figures to continue the leftist talking point beatdown

https://www.fema.gov/hurricane-maria?utm...n=disaster

Quote:FEMA, working in coordination with federal partners, provided millions of meals and millions of liters of water to Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands. Additional meals and water continue to arrive to the islands daily.

Quote:Mobile Emergency Response Support (MERS) communications assets and personnel continue to support the FEMA Incident Management Assistance Teams (IMAT), Urban Search and Rescue (US&R), National Disaster Medical System (NDMS), and other federal teams in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands. As of September 27, 2017, there are more than 30 MERS personnel in Puerto Rico and more than 20 MERS personnel in the USVI.

A U.S. Coast Guard (USCG) mobile communications team is in Puerto Rico to help improve communications across the storm-impacted area.

Quote:FEMA search and rescue teams have accessed 90 percent of Puerto Rico, conducting search and rescue operations and helping to assess hospitals. FEMA US&R task forces saved or assisted 843 individuals and five pets, while searching over 2,600 structures as of September 27.

Quote:More than 180 Federal Law Enforcement Officers (FLEO) are in San Juan and the U.S. Virgin Islands supporting search and rescue, medical teams, and other federal responders, additional FLEOs are en route expected to arrive this week. Additional law enforcement support from New York State Police is on the ground in St. John.

Quote:The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) has supported the restoration of services to seven of eight commercial airports in Puerto Rico. The FAA has restored full Air Traffic Control (ATC) services to Luis Munoz Marin International Airport in San Juan and limited ATC services to Rafael Hernandez Airport in Aguadilla. Recovery efforts are now supporting more than a dozen commercial passenger flights per day at Luis Munoz Marin International Airport in San Juan, Puerto Rico.

Quote:17 chainsaw teams (34 individuals) and one Incident Management Team (IMT) (23 individuals) from the Department of Agriculture United States Forest Service arrived in Puerto Rico Wednesday to conduct emergency road clearance and manage logistics. Nine additional teams are en route.

Quote:To bolster the delivery of fuel throughout Puerto Rico, 100 delivery trucks were dispatched by the Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) carrying an estimated 275,000 gallons of diesel fuel.

Quote:Power is restored to Centro Médico Hospital in San Juan and San Pablo Hospital in Bayamón, Puerto Rico. The Governor Juan F. Luis Hospital in St. Croix and the Schneider Regional Medical Center in St. Thomas are established as mobile hospitals. More than half of dialysis centers in Puerto Rico and the U.S. Virgin Islands are open and accessible for patients. More critical care facilities will re-open in the coming days as power and access are restored.

Quote:The U.S. Coast Guard reports the following port statuses with additional ports opening as assessments continue:

Puerto Rico
Open: Port of San Juan, Guayanilla, Salinas, and Talboa
Open with restrictions: Arecibo, Fajardo, Culebra, Guayama, Mayaguez, and Vieques
U.S. Virgin Islands
Open:
St. Thomas: Charlotte Amalie, East Gregerie Channel, Crown Bay, West Gregerie Channel
St. Croix: Krause Lagoon, Frederiksted, Limetree Bay
Open with Restrictions:
St. Thomas: Redhook Bay
St. John: Cruz Bay

Quote:USACE coordinated transportation of more than 300 FEMA or Defense Logistics Agency (DLA) generators from across the U.S. to meet anticipated requirements in the islands. Additional generators are arriving in the coming days.

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(09-28-2017 02:25 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Kap taking it to lefties like...

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There's been a bunch of threads over the years where a leftist talking point has been destroyed when the facts came out but I don't recall one being absolutely annihilated like this one has.
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The island needs to be evacuated.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...72996.html
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(09-28-2017 04:15 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 03:58 PM)Claw Wrote:  It's difficult to imagine.

I wonder what Wall St. and Hedge Funds who own all of the PR debt are thinking right now?

They now have an opportunity to take the island as payment. With everything destroyed, they can go in there and put big casinos and luxury hotels. Big money to be made.
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http://www.richmond.com/opinion/our-opin...44fc4.html

"The Department of Defense and the Federal Emergency Management Agency were both as proactive as possible in preparing for the hurricanes but the destruction caused by Hurricane Maria is massive. Nearly 3.5 million people live on an island that is 3,475 square miles — much of it mountainous terrain, rainforests, inaccessible coastline, and now-impassable roads.
Puerto Rico’s infrastructure is old and poorly maintained. Officials say 42 percent of Puerto Rico’s population is without drinking water. There is no electricity on the island. Restoring the utilities isn’t going to be a matter of repairs — it’s going to require rebuilding. Before that work can even begin, thousands of downed trees and tons of storm debris will need to be cleared.
As soon as Maria passed, officials were on the ground assessing damage. That it took federal officials “days to even contact local leaders,” as Slate accuses, is primarily because there were no communications on the island. Nearly every cell tower was destroyed and the electrical grid was wiped out. Blocked roads and hazardous conditions make visiting towns and cities in person almost impossible.
Two Navy ships headed to Puerto Rico before the storm hit. As soon as it was safe, they were on scene and providing assistance. Soldiers from a medical support brigade at Fort Bragg, N.C., were on board one of the ships, the USS Kearsarge. A Marine expeditionary unit also came to assist. National Guard units on Puerto Rico were activated and more troops are pouring in from units across the U.S., including Virginia....

Thankfully, some radar capability has been restored on the island. Aircraft bringing in supplies are now arriving around the clock at the airport in San Juan. According to the Military Times, as of Sept. 26, FEMA and other federal agencies had delivered 350 satellite phones and “have provided more than 4 million meals, 6 million liters of water, 70,000 tarps and 15,000 rolls of roof sheeting.” Ships from the U.S. Maritime Service are also on their way to the island, loaded with supplies and FEMA personnel. But pallets upon pallets of water, meals-ready-to-eat (MREs) and other supplies are sitting on the tarmac because there are so few working buses and few traversable roads.
Remember also that enormous relief efforts requiring FEMA and military assistance are still ongoing in Texas, Florida, and many other Caribbean islands. And on top of that, the military also has its day job of protecting the country and fighting bad guys. (But Northern Command has promised it will increase its presence significantly in the coming days.)
Puerto Rico doesn’t need a relief operation — it needs an aid package the magnitude of the Marshall Plan.
The federal government has its hands full, and recovery will take a long time. Meanwhile, snarky comments from armchair analysts hoping to score political points add nothing to the relief effort."
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(09-29-2017 01:38 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 04:15 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(09-28-2017 03:58 PM)Claw Wrote:  It's difficult to imagine.

I wonder what Wall St. and Hedge Funds who own all of the PR debt are thinking right now?

They now have an opportunity to take the island as payment. With everything destroyed, they can go in there and put big casinos and luxury hotels. Big money to be made.

Nah individuals, couples, developers still own the real estate.
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(09-29-2017 01:36 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  The island needs to be evacuated.

OK, I'll bite. How exactly do you propose evacuating the island?
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(09-29-2017 01:36 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  The island needs to be evacuated.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...72996.html

If it's evacuated won't this raise the islands sea level?

I'm making fun of that stupid Rep from the Demon party and Guam statement.
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(09-29-2017 02:19 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 01:36 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  The island needs to be evacuated.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...72996.html

If it's evacuated won't this raise the islands sea level?

I'm making fun of that stupid Rep from the Demon party and Guam statement.

It would reduce the island's sea level.

"This is an island, surrounded by water. Big water. Ocean water".
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(09-29-2017 02:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 01:36 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  The island needs to be evacuated.

OK, I'll bite. How exactly do you propose evacuating the island?

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(09-29-2017 02:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 01:36 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  The island needs to be evacuated.

OK, I'll bite. How exactly do you propose evacuating the island?

The conventional methods. Ships and planes. Give people FEMA checks once they are in the lower 48. It will be easier/faster to rebuilt the island if you don't have roads and infrastructure that have to be operational while people are living there. It'll take a decade to rebuilt if you have to work around people.
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