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(10-11-2017 11:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Death toll rises to 45.
I wonder which NFL game trump and pence are planning to pull a stunt at this weekend?

Puerto Rico is a terrible tragedy and a hell of a mess. You seem to be wanting to say that Trump could do something he is not doing to make it better. What would that be?

In fact, just a generic question, how could the response be better?
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(10-11-2017 02:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Death toll rises to 45.
I wonder which NFL game trump and pence are planning to pull a stunt at this weekend?

Puerto Rico is a terrible tragedy and a hell of a mess. You seem to be wanting to say that Trump could do something he is not doing to make it better. What would that be?

In fact, just a generic question, how could the response be better?

He should have thrown toilet paper at them too.
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RE: Puerto Rico
(10-11-2017 02:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Death toll rises to 45.
I wonder which NFL game trump and pence are planning to pull a stunt at this weekend?

Puerto Rico is a terrible tragedy and a hell of a mess. You seem to be wanting to say that Trump could do something he is not doing to make it better. What would that be?

In fact, just a generic question, how could the response be better?

You don't expect a realistic answer do you? Those kind of answers can't be gleaned from the leftist talking points being put out there right now. Just like the electricity still being out for the majority of the island was a talking point for FBO's rant about the Jones Act despite the fact that you can't deliver electricity on a merchant ship regardless of which country's flag it flies.
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(10-12-2017 01:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  you can't deliver electricity on a merchant ship regardless of which country's flag it flies.

Obama could
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(10-12-2017 01:58 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(10-12-2017 01:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  you can't deliver electricity on a merchant ship regardless of which country's flag it flies.

Obama could

I wouldn't know.....he never showed up in SC after the flooding in 2015 or Hurricane Matthew in 2016.
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(10-12-2017 01:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 02:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Death toll rises to 45.
I wonder which NFL game trump and pence are planning to pull a stunt at this weekend?

Puerto Rico is a terrible tragedy and a hell of a mess. You seem to be wanting to say that Trump could do something he is not doing to make it better. What would that be?

In fact, just a generic question, how could the response be better?

You don't expect a realistic answer do you? Those kind of answers can't be gleaned from the leftist talking points being put out there right now. Just like the electricity still being out for the majority of the island was a talking point for FBO's rant about the Jones Act despite the fact that you can't deliver electricity on a merchant ship regardless of which country's flag it flies.

No but their economy will go nowhere without electricity. They have no way to pay for their bills. The last thing we need to do is to be charging a broke country even more for commodities like oil and other goods. Any other country besides Puerto Rico is being charged less for products from the U.S. than Puerto Rico.

In fact, economists have estimated that just from 1970 to 2012, the Jones Act raised the costs of bringing all sorts of goods into Puerto Rico by nearly $29 billion.

It's an old law, we don't need to be getting rich off Puerto Rico.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/1...overy.html
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(10-11-2017 03:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 02:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Death toll rises to 45.
I wonder which NFL game trump and pence are planning to pull a stunt at this weekend?
Puerto Rico is a terrible tragedy and a hell of a mess. You seem to be wanting to say that Trump could do something he is not doing to make it better. What would that be?
In fact, just a generic question, how could the response be better?
He should have thrown toilet paper at them too.

That is about the level of intelligence and understanding that I would expect from you.
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(10-12-2017 02:05 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  
(10-12-2017 01:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 02:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Death toll rises to 45.
I wonder which NFL game trump and pence are planning to pull a stunt at this weekend?

Puerto Rico is a terrible tragedy and a hell of a mess. You seem to be wanting to say that Trump could do something he is not doing to make it better. What would that be?

In fact, just a generic question, how could the response be better?

You don't expect a realistic answer do you? Those kind of answers can't be gleaned from the leftist talking points being put out there right now. Just like the electricity still being out for the majority of the island was a talking point for FBO's rant about the Jones Act despite the fact that you can't deliver electricity on a merchant ship regardless of which country's flag it flies.

No but their economy will go nowhere without electricity. They have no way to pay for their bills. The last thing we need to do is to be charging a broke country even more for commodities like oil and other goods. Any other country besides Puerto Rico is being charged less for products from the U.S. than Puerto Rico.

In fact, economists have estimated that just from 1970 to 2012, the Jones Act raised the costs of bringing all sorts of goods into Puerto Rico by nearly $29 billion.

It's an old law, we don't need to be getting rich off Puerto Rico.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/10/1...overy.html

So why wasn't the Jones Act an issue when Obama was in office and when Democrats held overwhelming majorities in both houses of Congress?


AT this point there is no need for a temporary lifting of the act because the problem on the island remains the fact that due to third world level infrastructure BEFORE the hurricane the roads are still closed. There is absolutely nothing that a merchant ship flying a foreign flag can do to remedy that.

At this point the questions about he Jones Act should be directed to the legislative branch because what you are proposing, a repeal, isn't a function of the executive branch.


Now unless you can point out concrete evidence of how the Jones Act is hindering the relief efforts you would probably best be served by dropping that talking point and trying to find another one.
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(10-12-2017 02:13 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 03:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 02:47 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  
(10-11-2017 11:59 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Death toll rises to 45.
I wonder which NFL game trump and pence are planning to pull a stunt at this weekend?
Puerto Rico is a terrible tragedy and a hell of a mess. You seem to be wanting to say that Trump could do something he is not doing to make it better. What would that be?
In fact, just a generic question, how could the response be better?
He should have thrown toilet paper at them too.

That is about the level of intelligence and understanding that I would expect from you.

Ask a stupid question...get a stupid answer. The truth is out there. Stop refusing to accept it.

-They waited too long to address the problems.
-They waited too long to send the USN Comfort.
-They waited too long to get military or the guard involved.
-They waited too long to get money sent.
-They aren't going to send enough money and the pittance they are going to send is a damned loan.
-They waited too long to set aside the Jones Act.
-They let the Jones Act expire.
-Trump shows no empathy towards anyone. Granted it doesn't result in physical things, but it sure goes a hell of a long way in getting others to aid in the cause. And jetting off to his damned golf courses and bitching about the stupid NFL while Americans are dying in hospitals that can't adequately function isn't inspiring much confidence in anything he does.
-They never put anyone really qualified in charge of the whole thing like Russel L. Honoré with Katrina.
-And myriad others.

And it's only going to get worse now that people are being forced to drink contaminated water to survive.

And just wait. The official death toll is about to go through the roof when they stop hiding the other deaths as not related!

But by all means...keep thinking that trump is doing his best. History will sort it out...and it won't be kind.
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