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RE: Lions
(09-25-2017 09:41 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  
(09-25-2017 07:45 AM)GullLake Wrote:  Screw the NFL.

I won't attend, or watch, it.

Plenty of good college & high school ball, plus other things to do for less $ and without the NFL's pretension.

The NFL, and many of its players, think they are the center of the universe. However, they are rapidly becoming "Dead Man Walking."

When the players started kneeling and stretching during the National Anthem they lost me. I'm through with the NFL and I suspect I'm not alone. No more game attendance, no TV, no buying products who advertise during the games, no paraphenalia.

Let them do their protesting to half full stadiums with ticket revenue decreasing, like I care.

That is part of it, but while I can't prove it, I'm convinced the games are fixed. Last year's Super Bowl smelled real bad and how can you explain what regularly happens to the Lions?

Screw'em!

Better to kayak the Kalamazoo on a nice autumn Sunday...or even clean and organize the garage.
09-25-2017 10:09 AM
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Post: #12
RE: Lions
(09-25-2017 10:09 AM)GullLake Wrote:  
(09-25-2017 09:41 AM)BroncoPhilly Wrote:  
(09-25-2017 07:45 AM)GullLake Wrote:  Screw the NFL.

I won't attend, or watch, it.

Plenty of good college & high school ball, plus other things to do for less $ and without the NFL's pretension.

The NFL, and many of its players, think they are the center of the universe. However, they are rapidly becoming "Dead Man Walking."

When the players started kneeling and stretching during the National Anthem they lost me. I'm through with the NFL and I suspect I'm not alone. No more game attendance, no TV, no buying products who advertise during the games, no paraphenalia.

Let them do their protesting to half full stadiums with ticket revenue decreasing, like I care.

That is part of it, but while I can't prove it, I'm convinced the games are fixed. Last year's Super Bowl smelled real bad and how can you explain what regularly happens to the Lions?

Screw'em!

Better to kayak the Kalamazoo on a nice autumn Sunday...or even clean and organize the garage.
I've had *some* speculation about fixing as well. Seen too many strange, odd, questionable calls. Anyway, I stopped watching the NFL 3 years ago. My Sundays are better and absolutely no regrets.

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09-25-2017 06:31 PM
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Post: #13
RE: Lions
Quote:How was that not a touchdown????

I thought it was pretty darn clear his knee touched the ground before going in. I've seen a lot closer calls than that before:

[Image: quest5.png]

Quote:Tate was standing up 2 yards into the end zone when they stopped the clock at 0:08. Should've been 0:11 left at that point. 10 second runoff would've left 0:01 and a final play.

Interesting take. But here in this screen shot, he's not quite down yet, and it's 11s left. Which would make one expect 10s when his knee hits, thus 0s left in the game:

[Image: quest4.png]
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09-25-2017 08:31 PM
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Post: #14
RE: Lions
Call on the field was a touchdown. Need to have indisputable evidence to overturn. It's not indisputable. If anything, his knee grazed the turf, but didn't make solid contact. Watch the video. The screenshot makes it look like he's falling on that knee when in reality his torso is going down, and his legs are going up. By the time he had secured the ball, it was across the goal line.
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RE: Lions
Seems pretty indisputable to me. Here's some better angles & quality photos:

[Image: lions.png?w=640&h=360]

[Image: 853153860.0.jpg]

And in this one, the ball is before his arm crossing the white line...
[Image: 636418692290417231-2017-0924-dm-lions-falcons1487.jpg]

All of this makes it pretty indisputable. There's certain shots where he's bounced up and it looks similar where he's not touching. I can't complain about the call. I complain about Tate not squeezing more airborne effort in such a crucial play.
09-25-2017 10:36 PM
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RE: Lions
I don't think he had control of the ball until after he crossed the goal line, but...there's no use arguing it. It's over.

I personally don't like seeing these types of plays inside the 1 yard line. Line up in a power I formation and punch it in. Get a fullback in there. Or fake the handoff and find a TE in the endzone. QB sneak?? Something! If you're a professional football team and you can't punch it in from the 1...you don't deserve to win. The Lions were 1st and goal from the 1 yard line and couldn't get into the endzone after 3 tries. And not once did they try to power it up the middle. Put every big body on the line and lean forward....nope, didn't even try that once.
09-26-2017 08:23 AM
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