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P5 Conference Comparison, Week 10 (11/12/17) ... SEC #1 for 10th straight week!
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P5 Conference Comparison, Week 10 (11/12/17) ... SEC #1 for 10th straight week!
Two results count this week, both involving the ACC. The ACC picks up a "super win" as Miami smashes #3 Notre Dame, but suffers a loss as Duke falls to Army. This increases the ACC win rate to .408, past the Big 12 in to fourth place.

BTW, my rankings continue to differ significantly from Sagarin and Massey Composite, both of which have the SEC at no better than #3. What am i missing?


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CONFERENCE               WINS                     LOSSES                  SEASON RECORD    
  
1) SEC                  -----                      ------                    10 - 7 (.588)

2) PAC                  -----                       ------                    9 - 8.5 (.514)

3) B1G                  -----                     -------                    10 - 11.5 (.465)

4) ACC                 Miami@                       Duke                    10 - 14.5 (.408)  

5) Big 12              ------                      -----                     7 - 11.5  (.378)

@ 2 win credit for "super win" (see Method)

* 1.5 win credit for "quality win"

# 1.5 loss credit for "bad loss"

& 2 loss credit for "awful loss"


METHOD

1) Only OOC games count.

2) Notre Dame is always regarded as a P5 opponent, including for ACC teams. BYU and Army are regarded as G5 opponents.

3) All references to "rankings" are to at the time the game was played.

4) How losses are assessed:

a) A conference is docked 1 loss for losing to any P5 opponent.

b) A conference is docked 1 loss for losing to any FCS or G5 opponent that is ranked in the Coaches or AP poll, including "others receiving votes".

c) A conference is docked 1.5 losses for losing to any unranked G5 opponent. This is a penalty for a "bad loss".

d) A conference is docked 2 losses for losing to any unranked FCS opponent, a penalty for an "awful loss".


5) How wins are earned:

a) A conference is credited with 1 win for any win against any unranked P5 opponent.

b) A conference gets credit for 1 win against an FCS or G5 opponent if the FCS or G5 opponent is ranked in the "others receiving votes" of the AP or Coaches polls.

c) A conference earns 1.5 wins for beating any team ranked between 11-25 in the AP or Coaches top 25. This is a bonus for a "quality win".

d) A conference earns 2 wins if the win is against any team ranked in the top 10 in either poll. This is a bonus for a "super" win.

6) Wins against unranked FCS or G5 earn no credit.

7) For bowl season, the following modifications apply:

- Rankings of bowl game opponents are based on CFP rankings only, save for rules that refer to "others receiving votes" above. For bowl games pitting P5 vs G5, all win and loss credit is earned according to rules 4b-c and 5c-d and 6 above, with CFP substituted for AP/Coaches. So for example, beating a CFP unranked G5 team still earns no credit for the P5 conference, but losing to an unranked G5 in a bowl game does mean it suffers the "bad" loss penalty. But, if the G5 bowl opponent is ranked in the "others receiving votes" of either the AP or Coaches poll, the P5 conference would get credit for 1 win (if they win the bowl game) or just 1 loss (if they lose the bowl game).
(This post was last modified: 11-12-2017 07:49 AM by quo vadis.)
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RE: P5 Conference Comparison, Week 5 (10/1/17) ... SEC #1 for 4th straight week!
Updated for 9/30 results.
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RE: P5 Conference Comparison, Week 6 (10/8/17) ... SEC #1 for 5th straight week!
Results updated for 10/7 games.
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RE: P5 Conference Comparison, Week 6 (10/8/17) ... SEC #1 for 5th straight week!
On a straight up basis, the Big Ten goes 8-6 in P5 nonconf games:

Indiana won at Virginia
Maryland won at Texas
Michigan won vs Florida (Cowboys Stadium)
Penn St won vs Pitt
Iowa won at Iowa St
Minnesota won at Oregon St
Purdue won at Missouri
Wisconsin won at BYU (counts in my book)

Michigan St lost vs Notre Dame
Ohio St lost vs Oklahoma
Rutgers lost vs Washington
Nebraska lost at Oregon
NW lost at Duke
Purdue lost vs Louisville (Colts Stadium)

(none played by Illinois)


That's what's matters to me. Not a bad P5NC slate for the ol boys.
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RE: P5 Conference Comparison, Week 6 (10/8/17) ... SEC #1 for 5th straight week!
(10-08-2017 09:00 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  On a straight up basis, the Big Ten goes 8-6 in P5 nonconf games:

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That's what's matters to me. Not a bad P5NC slate for the ol boys.

Usually, my system produces results very close to the Massey Composite, but not right now. My P5CC has the SEC #1 and the B1G #3. Massey has the B1G #1 and the SEC #4.

I noticed that in those computers, LSU's loss to Troy had a huge impact on the SEC's ranking. Before that loss, the SEC was #1 in both Sagarin and the Massey Composite. After LSU lost to Troy, the SEC fell to 4th in Massey and 5th in Sagarin!

In my system, that loss definitely hurt the SEC, as it should have, but not enough even to knock it from #1, much less all the way down to 4th or 5th. I guess we'll see how it shakes out in the end. 07-coffee3
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RE: P5 Conference Comparison, Week 6 (10/8/17) ... SEC #1 for 5th straight week!
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RE: P5 Conference Comparison, Week 8 (10/22/17) ... SEC #1 for 7th straight week!
Updated for 10/21 results.
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RE: P5 Conference Comparison, Week 9 (10/29/17) ... SEC #1 for 8th straight week!
Updated for 10/28 results.
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RE: P5 Conference Comparison, Week 9 (11/5/17) ... SEC #1 for 9th straight week!
Updated for 11/4 results. [/align]
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RE: P5 Conference Comparison, Week 9 (11/5/17) ... SEC #1 for 9th straight week!
It would be interesting to see what would happened if you plugged in the American conference this year.
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