(09-21-2017 11:36 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  A derp fan-fiction post getting this much traction. Can't tell if that's why I like this site or hate it.

See it for what it is, a crappy opening three weeks of football with minor exceptions. If the games were good they'd be talking about that.

As for the board, at least it has a diversity of tedium as opposed to the same 6 or 7 guys droning on about the same things at the Hokie board! It's like I love Lucy. I drop by to Lurk about two or three times a year and I have to say yep, same things I saw last time. It's deja vu Crocodile Dundee, only without the great looking blonde!

(09-21-2017 11:36 PM)ColKurtz Wrote:  A derp fan-fiction post getting this much traction. Can't tell if that's why I like this site or hate it.

But the prevaling quips aren't flying, people are respecting each other's opinions, and it's like discussing alternative history. Interesting but you know it's fiction. Since it is, no one can be completely wrong.

Stated as fiction.
Just a mental exercise about the elements of conference membership and how eliminating one element (an element that once did not exist and might not be nearly as significant in the future) might have an impact.

(09-21-2017 11:07 PM)clpp01 Wrote:  

(09-21-2017 05:56 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(09-21-2017 05:09 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(09-21-2017 05:05 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  PAC 2 might be the one that suffers the most. They are really spread out apart, and the money for tv is not that great as it is compared to the others. They could be the first super-conference and could add schools to help schools out. Boise State would be there to help Washington State and Oregon State. UNR could also be there as well. San Diego State and Fresno State along with UNLV and Hawaii could help the California schools out some more. New Mexico, BYU, Utah State, Colorado State, Air Force, Montana and Wyoming could help Colorado and Utah out. I am not saying they all could get into the PAC 12, but PAC 12 could break into 2 conferences.

David, read the OP. The hypothetical is that the TV money is gone. If that's the case then crowds are how you earn your money and travel costs need to be kept at a minimum. So the PAC would probably stay pretty much the same even though their travel would probably be more the larger schools would still be the same.

You just said it the way I am pointing out. Look at Washington and Oregon schools? They would benefit more with schools like Boise State and UNR for travel costs for all sports. Boise State fans do travel, and could help Washington State, Washington, Oregon and Oregon State stands filled. That is what I am pointing out for the PAC 12 because of the costs of the sports, and the travel costs piles unto the conference. Several schools have had issues of losing money than making it.

Oregon/Washington schools would care more about maintaining their connections to their California alums and recruiting pipelines then they would about having another geographical friendly school joining them in conference.

They would care just in case the California schools start dropping sports. If those California schools start dropping sports including football? It would stop that connection. Adding any of the Texas/Oklahoma schools still would not help the schools out any. UTEP and UTSA might help since they are closer to Colorado. 24 team conference with a pod of 6 could help.

PAC 12 Northwest:
Washington
Washington State
Oregon
Oregon State
Boise State
UNR

California North:
Stanford
California
Fresno State
UNLV
UTAH
BYU

Southwest:
UCLA
USC
San Diego State
Hawaii
Arizona
Arizona State

East:
New Mexico
Colorado
Colorado State
Wyoming
Montana
UTEP or UTSA

The Oregon/Washington schools could still play the California schools with any of the other 7 games.

I'm thinking the exact opposite of most here. I think what would happen is that the schools would pass legislation to allow football-only conferences at the FBS level. I can see a lot of the top conferences disbanding and everyone going independent or having small conferences for scheduling purposes. For example, I don't see most of the SEC wanting to play Missouri as they have no history with them and there isn't a real advantage to playing in Missouri. Penn State, Maryland, and Rutgers would replace the western Big Ten schools with ACC/former Big East schools. Texas can play just schools in the state of Texas. I don't think the Pac 12 would change much but the other top conferences would have a lot of shakeup in my mind.

I think the current G5 schools is where conferences would thrive. They wouldn't be in high demand for regular schedules so they'd need to pair up with other low-demand schools so that they all had full schedules throughout the year. It would be a lot of conferences out of necessity than out of desire but it would accomplish what they needed to survive in FBS. Current independents like UMass and New Mexico State may find themselves in a football conference as the G5 tries to get more compact to save on travel.

(09-23-2017 09:05 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  I'm thinking the exact opposite of most here. I think what would happen is that the schools would pass legislation to allow football-only conferences at the FBS level. I can see a lot of the top conferences disbanding and everyone going independent or having small conferences for scheduling purposes. For example, I don't see most of the SEC wanting to play Missouri as they have no history with them and there isn't a real advantage to playing in Missouri. Penn State, Maryland, and Rutgers would replace the western Big Ten schools with ACC/former Big East schools. Texas can play just schools in the state of Texas. I don't think the Pac 12 would change much but the other top conferences would have a lot of shakeup in my mind.

I think the current G5 schools is where conferences would thrive. They wouldn't be in high demand for regular schedules so they'd need to pair up with other low-demand schools so that they all had full schedules throughout the year. It would be a lot of conferences out of necessity than out of desire but it would accomplish what they needed to survive in FBS. Current independents like UMass and New Mexico State may find themselves in a football conference as the G5 tries to get more compact to save on travel.

PAC 2, MWC and Big Sky schools seem to have a schedule agreement with each other. As it is, they do not have other P5 conferences near them to fill out schedules like you do east of the Mississippi.