*edit* I didn't include C-USA and Sun Belt schools because I have limited time and I'm not a fan of any of those teams. Feel free to discuss them at your leisure */edit*

P5 schools don't like playing at G5 schools. But some G5 schools are able to get home games against major P5 schools. I thought it would be interesting to see which G5 schools the P5s don't mind playing against on an equal basis.

List of future P5 opponents at home, ranked by conference:

American
ECU: Virginia Tech (x4), West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina
Temple: Rutgers (x2), Miami, Oklahoma, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Maryland, Duke
Cincinnati: UCLA, Nebraska, Indiana, Pitt
Houston: Arizona, Washington State, Kansas, Texas Tech
Memphis: Ole Miss, UCLA, Mississippi State, Missouri
UCF: North Carolina, Stanford, Pitt
USF: Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Texas (2 for 1)
UConn: Illinois, Indiana, Boston College, Tennessee (announced but not scheduled yet)
Tulane: Mississippi State, Duke, Wake Forest, Ole Miss (2 for 1), Kansas State (2 for 1), Oklahoma (2 for 1)
SMU: TCU (2 for 1)

Mountain West:
San Diego State: UCLA (x2), Arizona State (x2), Arizona, Utah, Washington State, Oregon State, Stanford
Hawai'i (although they've got the 13th game advantage): Arizona (x2), Oregon, Oregon State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt
Colorado State: Colorado, Texas Tech, Arizona, Vanderbilt, Texas Tech, Arkansas
Boise: Oklahoma State, Michigan State, Oregon State
Wyoming: Utah, Missouri
Fresno: Minnesota, Oregon State
Nevada: Oregon State, Purdue
UNLV: Iowa State, Arizona State
Air Force: Colorado
Utah State: Washington State
SJSU: Cal

MAC
Ohio: Iowa State, Kansas
NIU: Utah, Boston College
Toledo: Miami (FL)
Western Michigan: Syracuse
Miami (OH): Missouri
Bowling Green: Maryland
Central Michigan: Kansas
Eastern Michigan: Kentucky (2 for 1?)

No home games against P5s: Tulsa, New Mexico, Buffalo, Ball State, Kent State, Akron

Basically ECU, Temple, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, San Diego State, and Colorado State are essentially treated like equals by P5 schools. USF, UCF, UConn, and Boise are pretty close, too.

(09-19-2017 04:55 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  P5 schools don't like playing at G5 schools. But some G5 schools are able to get home games against major P5 schools. I thought it would be interesting to see which G5 schools the P5s don't mind playing against on an equal basis.

List of future P5 opponents at home, ranked by conference:

American
ECU: Virginia Tech (x4), West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina
Temple: Rutgers (x2), Miami, Oklahoma, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Maryland, Duke
Cincinnati: UCLA, Nebraska, Indiana, Pitt
Houston: Arizona, Washington State, Kansas, Texas Tech
Memphis: Ole Miss, UCLA, Mississippi State, Missouri
UCF: North Carolina, Stanford, Pitt
USF: Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Texas (2 for 1)
UConn: Illinois, Indiana, Boston College, Tennessee (announced but not scheduled yet)
Tulane: Mississippi State, Duke, Wake Forest, Ole Miss (2 for 1), Kansas State (2 for 1), Oklahoma (2 for 1)
SMU: TCU (2 for 1)

Mountain West:
San Diego State: UCLA (x2), Arizona State (x2), Arizona, Utah, Washington State, Oregon State, Stanford
Hawai'i (although they've got the 13th game advantage): Arizona (x2), Oregon, Oregon State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt
Colorado State: Colorado, Texas Tech, Arizona, Vanderbilt, Texas Tech, Arkansas
Boise: Oklahoma State, Michigan State, Oregon State
Wyoming: Utah, Missouri
Fresno: Minnesota, Oregon State
Nevada: Oregon State, Purdue
UNLV: Iowa State, Arizona State
Air Force: Colorado
Utah State: Washington State
SJSU: Cal

MAC
Ohio: Iowa State, Kansas
NIU: Utah, Boston College
Toledo: Miami (FL)
Western Michigan: Syracuse
Miami (OH): Missouri
Bowling Green: Maryland
Central Michigan: Kansas
Eastern Michigan: Kentucky (2 for 1?)

No home games against P5s: Tulsa, New Mexico, Buffalo, Ball State, Kent State, Akron

Basically ECU, Temple, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, San Diego State, and Colorado State are essentially treated like equals by P5 schools. USF, UCF, UConn, and Boise are pretty close, too.

Add Virginia (at Boise 9/22/17) and Florida State (at Boise 9/19/20) as having scheduled future H/H with Boise State.

1.) What about CUSA and the Sun Belt?

2.) This is kind of an unfair look because it only looks at what's scheduled in the future. Many of the MAC schools have hosted the P5 within the last couple seasons, including this season. I can think of P5 teams off my head that have visited Toledo, CMU, WMU, and Ohio recently. Also a lot of MAC schools don't schedule 10 years in advance like those listed do.

Games ODU is hosting vs P5:
2018 vs Virginia Tech
2020 vs Wake Forest & vs Virginia
2022 vs Virginia Tech
2024 vs Virginia Tech
2027 vs Virginia Tech
2029 vs Virginia Tech
2031 vs Virginia Tech

ODU also hosted UNC this year and NC State in 2015.

IIRC, Eastern Michigan is getting Michigan State to come there in a few years as part of a 3-1, something MSU also did with the other two directional Michigans.

One factor -- stadium capacity (most of the AAC schools) or the ability to go to a larger venue (Cincinnati)

(09-19-2017 05:10 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  1.) What about CUSA and the Sun Belt?

2.) This is kind of an unfair look because it only looks at what's scheduled in the future. Many of the MAC schools have hosted the P5 within the last couple seasons, including this season. I can think of P5 teams off my head that have visited Toledo, CMU, WMU, and Ohio recently. Also a lot of MAC schools don't schedule 10 years in advance like those listed do.

I looked at the last 5 years and this year:

- CMU = 3. Michigan St. in '12, Syracuse in '14 , Oklahoma St. in '15 (12 P5 road games)

- NIU = 3ish. Kansas in '12 and Iowa at Soldier Field, BC in '17 (6 P5 road games)

- Buffalo = 2. Pitt in '12, Baylor in '14 (6 P5 road games)

- Toledo = 2. Missouri in '14, Iowa St. in '15 (6 P5 road games)

- Akron = 2. Pitt in '15, Iowa St. in '17 (7 P5 road games)

- Ohio = 1. Kansas in '17 (7 P5 road games)

- Bowling Green = 1. Indiana in '14 (11 P5 road games)

- WMU = 1. Michigan St. in '15 (12 P5 road games)

- Miami = N/A (7 P5 road games)

- Ball St. = N/A (8 P5 road games)

- EMU = N/A (10 P5 road games)

- Kent St. = N/A (12 P5 road games)

UTEP has hosted the following P5 schools in the last 10 years:
-Texas
-Oklahoma
-Texas Tech
-Arizona
-Kansas

Not that many but how many G5 schools get to host Texas and Oklahoma? If not mistaken, UTEP is the only G5 school Texas has done a one and one (2008, 2009). The Oklahoma deal was a 2 and 1.

(09-19-2017 06:14 PM)megadrone Wrote:  One factor -- stadium capacity (most of the AAC schools) or the ability to go to a larger venue (Cincinnati)

Cincinnati is not going to a larger venue for any of the P5 games on our schedule. Before we expanded our stadium, the break-even point for going to the Bengals stadium was selling 45,000 tickets. Our stadium expansion doubled the revenue-generating capacity of the stadium, and PBS only holds 65,000 people, so I doubt it will ever happen again unless Michigan or Ohio State agree to come to town.

The only exception is that for Miami (OH) we just scheduled 3 future games at the Bengals Stadium. But these aren't home games - they're neutral site games being held a few blocks away from the hemisphere's largest Oktoberfest celebration.

(09-19-2017 05:10 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  1.) What about CUSA and the Sun Belt?

2.) This is kind of an unfair look because it only looks at what's scheduled in the future. Many of the MAC schools have hosted the P5 within the last couple seasons, including this season. I can think of P5 teams off my head that have visited Toledo, CMU, WMU, and Ohio recently. Also a lot of MAC schools don't schedule 10 years in advance like those listed do.

1) Feel free to write those up for the thread.

2a) If you look at the past, the same trends hold. P5 schools play at SDSU, Temple, and ECU way more than any MAC school.

2b) If you can't schedule them 5 years out, that's not because the MAC school is saying no - it's because the P5 school is saying no. If Nebraska called Western Michigan tomorrow offering a home-and-home in 2030/31, WMU would say, "Thank you sir, may I have another?" (so would Cincinnati, which is why we have Nebraska visiting us in 2025).

(09-19-2017 05:59 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  IIRC, Eastern Michigan is getting Michigan State to come there in a few years as part of a 3-1, something MSU also did with the other two directional Michigans.

That game was cancelled due to the Big 10 only having three non-conference games.

The Tennessee game(s) vs. UCONN have been postponed. They'll probably be bought out as the prevailing opinion is Tennessee doesn't want to "slum it" by being on the same field with us.

(09-19-2017 05:10 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  1.) What about CUSA and the Sun Belt?

2.) This is kind of an unfair look because it only looks at what's scheduled in the future. Many of the MAC schools have hosted the P5 within the last couple seasons, including this season. I can think of P5 teams off my head that have visited Toledo, CMU, WMU, and Ohio recently. Also a lot of MAC schools don't schedule 10 years in advance like those listed do.

CUSA and the Sunbelt don't exist anymore

Here you go:

http://csnbbs.com/thread-780833.html


And so you don't have to read the whole thread to see who has the most

http://csnbbs.com/thread-780833-post-144...id14470611

Rice: Wake Forest, Texas, Baylor, LSU

(09-19-2017 04:55 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  P5 schools don't like playing at G5 schools. But some G5 schools are able to get home games against major P5 schools. I thought it would be interesting to see which G5 schools the P5s don't mind playing against on an equal basis.

List of future P5 opponents at home, ranked by conference:

American
ECU: Virginia Tech (x4), West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina
Temple: Rutgers (x2), Miami, Oklahoma, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Maryland, Duke
Cincinnati: UCLA, Nebraska, Indiana, Pitt
Houston: Arizona, Washington State, Kansas, Texas Tech
Memphis: Ole Miss, UCLA, Mississippi State, Missouri
UCF: North Carolina, Stanford, Pitt
USF: Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Texas (2 for 1)
UConn: Illinois, Indiana, Boston College, Tennessee (announced but not scheduled yet)
Tulane: Mississippi State, Duke, Wake Forest, Ole Miss (2 for 1), Kansas State (2 for 1), Oklahoma (2 for 1)
SMU: TCU (2 for 1)

Mountain West:
San Diego State: UCLA (x2), Arizona State (x2), Arizona, Utah, Washington State, Oregon State, Stanford
Hawai'i (although they've got the 13th game advantage): Arizona (x2), Oregon, Oregon State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt
Colorado State: Colorado, Texas Tech, Arizona, Vanderbilt, Texas Tech, Arkansas
Boise: Oklahoma State, Michigan State, Oregon State
Wyoming: Utah, Missouri
Fresno: Minnesota, Oregon State
Nevada: Oregon State, Purdue
UNLV: Iowa State, Arizona State
Air Force: Colorado
Utah State: Washington State
SJSU: Cal

MAC
Ohio: Iowa State, Kansas
NIU: Utah, Boston College
Toledo: Miami (FL)
Western Michigan: Syracuse
Miami (OH): Missouri
Bowling Green: Maryland
Central Michigan: Kansas
Eastern Michigan: Kentucky (2 for 1?)

No home games against P5s: Tulsa, New Mexico, Buffalo, Ball State, Kent State, Akron

Basically ECU, Temple, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, San Diego State, and Colorado State are essentially treated like equals by P5 schools. USF, UCF, UConn, and Boise are pretty close, too.

Future home games with P5
1.San Diego St
1. Old Dominion
3. ECU
4. Colorado St

(09-19-2017 04:55 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  P5 schools don't like playing at G5 schools. But some G5 schools are able to get home games against major P5 schools. I thought it would be interesting to see which G5 schools the P5s don't mind playing against on an equal basis.

List of future P5 opponents at home, ranked by conference:

American
ECU: Virginia Tech (x4), West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina
Temple: Rutgers (x2), Miami, Oklahoma, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Maryland, Duke
Cincinnati: UCLA, Nebraska, Indiana, Pitt
Houston: Arizona, Washington State, Kansas, Texas Tech
Memphis: Ole Miss, UCLA, Mississippi State, Missouri
UCF: North Carolina, Stanford, Pitt
USF: Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Texas (2 for 1)
UConn: Illinois, Indiana, Boston College, Tennessee (announced but not scheduled yet)
Tulane: Mississippi State, Duke, Wake Forest, Ole Miss (2 for 1), Kansas State (2 for 1), Oklahoma (2 for 1)
SMU: TCU (2 for 1)

Mountain West:
San Diego State: UCLA (x2), Arizona State (x2), Arizona, Utah, Washington State, Oregon State, Stanford
Hawai'i (although they've got the 13th game advantage): Arizona (x2), Oregon, Oregon State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt
Colorado State: Colorado, Texas Tech, Arizona, Vanderbilt, Texas Tech, Arkansas
Boise: Oklahoma State, Michigan State, Oregon State
Wyoming: Utah, Missouri
Fresno: Minnesota, Oregon State
Nevada: Oregon State, Purdue
UNLV: Iowa State, Arizona State
Air Force: Colorado
Utah State: Washington State
SJSU: Cal

MAC
Ohio: Iowa State, Kansas
NIU: Utah, Boston College
Toledo: Miami (FL)
Western Michigan: Syracuse
Miami (OH): Missouri
Bowling Green: Maryland
Central Michigan: Kansas
Eastern Michigan: Kentucky (2 for 1?)

No home games against P5s: Tulsa, New Mexico, Buffalo, Ball State, Kent State, Akron

Basically ECU, Temple, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, San Diego State, and Colorado State are essentially treated like equals by P5 schools. USF, UCF, UConn, and Boise are pretty close, too.

Temple and USF play off campus in NFL stadiums.
Temple vs OU is a 2-0-1 for OU. 2 in Norman, 1 in Eagles stadium.
Nebraska has a 4-0 with NIU after canceling last years Soldier Field game.
I noticed you counted certain NFL stadium games as home games., yet omitted others like Colorado St in Denver vs Colorado. Every other year is a home game for one except 2020 where Colorado goes to Ft Collins.
Where's the 8 Old Dominion home games vs P5?

(09-19-2017 08:48 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(09-19-2017 04:55 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  P5 schools don't like playing at G5 schools. But some G5 schools are able to get home games against major P5 schools. I thought it would be interesting to see which G5 schools the P5s don't mind playing against on an equal basis.

List of future P5 opponents at home, ranked by conference:

American
ECU: Virginia Tech (x4), West Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina
Temple: Rutgers (x2), Miami, Oklahoma, Georgia Tech, Boston College, Maryland, Duke
Cincinnati: UCLA, Nebraska, Indiana, Pitt
Houston: Arizona, Washington State, Kansas, Texas Tech
Memphis: Ole Miss, UCLA, Mississippi State, Missouri
UCF: North Carolina, Stanford, Pitt
USF: Wisconsin, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Texas (2 for 1)
UConn: Illinois, Indiana, Boston College, Tennessee (announced but not scheduled yet)
Tulane: Mississippi State, Duke, Wake Forest, Ole Miss (2 for 1), Kansas State (2 for 1), Oklahoma (2 for 1)
SMU: TCU (2 for 1)

Mountain West:
San Diego State: UCLA (x2), Arizona State (x2), Arizona, Utah, Washington State, Oregon State, Stanford
Hawai'i (although they've got the 13th game advantage): Arizona (x2), Oregon, Oregon State, Wisconsin, Vanderbilt
Colorado State: Colorado, Texas Tech, Arizona, Vanderbilt, Texas Tech, Arkansas
Boise: Oklahoma State, Michigan State, Oregon State
Wyoming: Utah, Missouri
Fresno: Minnesota, Oregon State
Nevada: Oregon State, Purdue
UNLV: Iowa State, Arizona State
Air Force: Colorado
Utah State: Washington State
SJSU: Cal

MAC
Ohio: Iowa State, Kansas
NIU: Utah, Boston College
Toledo: Miami (FL)
Western Michigan: Syracuse
Miami (OH): Missouri
Bowling Green: Maryland
Central Michigan: Kansas
Eastern Michigan: Kentucky (2 for 1?)

No home games against P5s: Tulsa, New Mexico, Buffalo, Ball State, Kent State, Akron

Basically ECU, Temple, Cincinnati, Houston, Memphis, San Diego State, and Colorado State are essentially treated like equals by P5 schools. USF, UCF, UConn, and Boise are pretty close, too.

Temple and USF play off campus in NFL stadiums. I noticed you counted certain NFL stadium games as home games., yet omitted others like Colorado St in Denver vs Colorado. Every other year is a home game for one except 2020 where Colorado goes to Ft Collins.

Toledo has hosted Ohio State at Browns Stadium in Cleveland before as well.

(09-19-2017 06:40 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(09-19-2017 05:59 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  IIRC, Eastern Michigan is getting Michigan State to come there in a few years as part of a 3-1, something MSU also did with the other two directional Michigans.

That game was cancelled due to the Big 10 only having three non-conference games.

That sucks, especially now that EMU is on the upswing. Hopefully they got a fat payout for it.

It's also worth noting that many home games can simply come about from recruiting geography, with very little having to do with the program itself. You can bet that Pitt, Maryland, Louisville, and Indiana would've never visited FIU if they were located in South Dakota instead of Miami.

Virginia Tech's long series with ECU and ODU are ideal. Long-term series with programs in two priority recruiting areas: Tidewater and NC. ECU, while regressing the past couple years, is still a good G5 opponent, and we have history with them. Games with ODU help build interest in a budding program, and help an in-state institution. Add to that the stability of future OOC schedules and it seems win win for all.