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RE: Big Ten Swaps Places With CUSA In Heart of Dallas Bowl
(09-15-2017 12:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 10:02 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 10:13 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Like I said, out bowls suck big time, but they are way better than the Sun Belt's, CUSA, and MAC's. We have 4 bowls with Power conference tie ins. They have zero. The MWC has one, I believe. Basically, every bowl that has a so called P5 tie in belongs to AAC. I like playing, for example, South Carolina in the Birmingham bowl.

Excluding the NY6, in 2014 we played 4 bowls vs P5, in 2015, we played 3 bowls vs P5, and last year, we played 2 bowls vs P5.

That's not a positive trend, and personally, I don't see much difference between playing say the #2 MAC team and the #11 SEC team in a toilet bowl like Birmingham.

Our bowl lineup is purely a G5 lineup, and it is IMO atrocious. Because it is a little better than C-USA's brings me no solace.

There is no "trend". Its goverened by the same bowl agreements that we signed at the start of this bowl cycle.

I get that. But my point was it's inaccurate, as some have said, to say we have "four P5 bowls". We don't. We have two P5 bowls, Birmingham and the Military. We also have the possibility of two others, if the chips fall a certain way.

That's not four P5 tie-ins.

But I agree with you, any bowl improvement is likely to be incremental, because anything significant would almost surely require supplanting a P5 in a bowl, and that's wishful thinking.

I completely agree that claiming "4 P5 bowls a year" is an overstatement because at best it was more like "4 P5 bowls every other year". Getting to 4-6 P5 bowls EVERY year is the kind of "incremental" improvement I hope to see in the next bowl cycle. Something like this is about the best case we can REASONABLY expect---

Military vs ACC
Birmignham vs SEC
St Pete vs ACC (full tie for ACC)
Armed Forces Vs B12/B10
HOD vs Big12/B10
Indy vs SEC or ACC
Cure vs CUSA
NOLA vs SB


Thats 6 P5 bowls and 2 G5 bowls in popular destinations inside the conference footprint. If we need another---Boca vs CUSA or Frisco vs the MW would be options. An unexpected upside surprise would be some sort of rotating slot for the AAC champ in the Liberty/Belk/Gator/Music City/Texas Bowl pool. Something like that would be a huge upgrade for us (pretty much a long shot in my opinion).
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RE: Big Ten Swaps Places With CUSA In Heart of Dallas Bowl
(09-13-2017 09:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 07:58 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  G4 bowls

You think our bowls are better?

They are, simply because WE are there... 07-coffee3
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RE: Big Ten Swaps Places With CUSA In Heart of Dallas Bowl
(09-15-2017 03:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 12:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 10:02 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-13-2017 10:13 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  Like I said, out bowls suck big time, but they are way better than the Sun Belt's, CUSA, and MAC's. We have 4 bowls with Power conference tie ins. They have zero. The MWC has one, I believe. Basically, every bowl that has a so called P5 tie in belongs to AAC. I like playing, for example, South Carolina in the Birmingham bowl.

Excluding the NY6, in 2014 we played 4 bowls vs P5, in 2015, we played 3 bowls vs P5, and last year, we played 2 bowls vs P5.

That's not a positive trend, and personally, I don't see much difference between playing say the #2 MAC team and the #11 SEC team in a toilet bowl like Birmingham.

Our bowl lineup is purely a G5 lineup, and it is IMO atrocious. Because it is a little better than C-USA's brings me no solace.

There is no "trend". Its goverened by the same bowl agreements that we signed at the start of this bowl cycle.

I get that. But my point was it's inaccurate, as some have said, to say we have "four P5 bowls". We don't. We have two P5 bowls, Birmingham and the Military. We also have the possibility of two others, if the chips fall a certain way.

That's not four P5 tie-ins.

But I agree with you, any bowl improvement is likely to be incremental, because anything significant would almost surely require supplanting a P5 in a bowl, and that's wishful thinking.

I completely agree that claiming "4 P5 bowls a year" is an overstatement because at best it was more like "4 P5 bowls every other year". Getting to 4-6 P5 bowls EVERY year is the kind of "incremental" improvement I hope to see in the next bowl cycle. Something like this is about the best case we can REASONABLY expect---

Military vs ACC
Birmignham vs SEC
St Pete vs ACC (full tie for ACC)
Armed Forces Vs B12/B10
HOD vs Big12/B10
Indy vs SEC or ACC

I'll grant HOD because hell, it's such a tangled mess of alignments I can't figure it out, LOL.

But not sure how we can grab Armed Forces, they're not going to boot out Army, and also the Independence is ACC vs SEC, so we're not getting that either. IMO, at least.
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RE: Big Ten Swaps Places With CUSA In Heart of Dallas Bowl
Aresco mentioned over the summer about trying to work something with the B1G. Foreshadowing? Wouldn't be the first time a bowl chose the AAC over CUSA...lots of previous relationships.
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RE: Big Ten Swaps Places With CUSA In Heart of Dallas Bowl
(09-15-2017 06:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 03:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 12:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 10:02 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 09:16 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Excluding the NY6, in 2014 we played 4 bowls vs P5, in 2015, we played 3 bowls vs P5, and last year, we played 2 bowls vs P5.

That's not a positive trend, and personally, I don't see much difference between playing say the #2 MAC team and the #11 SEC team in a toilet bowl like Birmingham.

Our bowl lineup is purely a G5 lineup, and it is IMO atrocious. Because it is a little better than C-USA's brings me no solace.

There is no "trend". Its goverened by the same bowl agreements that we signed at the start of this bowl cycle.

I get that. But my point was it's inaccurate, as some have said, to say we have "four P5 bowls". We don't. We have two P5 bowls, Birmingham and the Military. We also have the possibility of two others, if the chips fall a certain way.

That's not four P5 tie-ins.

But I agree with you, any bowl improvement is likely to be incremental, because anything significant would almost surely require supplanting a P5 in a bowl, and that's wishful thinking.

I completely agree that claiming "4 P5 bowls a year" is an overstatement because at best it was more like "4 P5 bowls every other year". Getting to 4-6 P5 bowls EVERY year is the kind of "incremental" improvement I hope to see in the next bowl cycle. Something like this is about the best case we can REASONABLY expect---

Military vs ACC
Birmignham vs SEC
St Pete vs ACC (full tie for ACC)
Armed Forces Vs B12/B10
HOD vs Big12/B10
Indy vs SEC or ACC

I'll grant HOD because hell, it's such a tangled mess of alignments I can't figure it out, LOL.

But not sure how we can grab Armed Forces, they're not going to boot out Army, and also the Independence is ACC vs SEC, so we're not getting that either. IMO, at least.

Well...we do have Navy.
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RE: Big Ten Swaps Places With CUSA In Heart of Dallas Bowl
(09-14-2017 01:13 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  Secondly, I cant figure out why CUSA would do it. Doesnt seem to be much in it for CUSA---so I dont know why its even happening. I mean--shouldnt a swap benefit both conferences? The whole move is a little odd.

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RE: Big Ten Swaps Places With CUSA In Heart of Dallas Bowl
(09-15-2017 08:34 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 06:24 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 03:23 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-15-2017 12:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-14-2017 10:02 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  There is no "trend". Its goverened by the same bowl agreements that we signed at the start of this bowl cycle.

I get that. But my point was it's inaccurate, as some have said, to say we have "four P5 bowls". We don't. We have two P5 bowls, Birmingham and the Military. We also have the possibility of two others, if the chips fall a certain way.

That's not four P5 tie-ins.

But I agree with you, any bowl improvement is likely to be incremental, because anything significant would almost surely require supplanting a P5 in a bowl, and that's wishful thinking.

I completely agree that claiming "4 P5 bowls a year" is an overstatement because at best it was more like "4 P5 bowls every other year". Getting to 4-6 P5 bowls EVERY year is the kind of "incremental" improvement I hope to see in the next bowl cycle. Something like this is about the best case we can REASONABLY expect---

Military vs ACC
Birmignham vs SEC
St Pete vs ACC (full tie for ACC)
Armed Forces Vs B12/B10
HOD vs Big12/B10
Indy vs SEC or ACC

I'll grant HOD because hell, it's such a tangled mess of alignments I can't figure it out, LOL.

But not sure how we can grab Armed Forces, they're not going to boot out Army, and also the Independence is ACC vs SEC, so we're not getting that either. IMO, at least.

Well...we do have Navy.

We do have Navy, but Navy is already affiliated (via us) with the Military Bowl, which is on their campus. I don't see Navy having two ties to "armed services" bowls and Army having zero.

This is a low-tier bowl so I doubt a P5 makes a firm commitment to it, I think next time around it will have the same type of hodge-podge that it has now, with the AAC being involved, since just about everyone is, LOL.
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