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JMU #7 South Regional University in 2018
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/ran...ties-south

I believe this is a slight improvement from last year? We were either tied for 7th or 8th. I forget exactly. Hopefully someone can remember.

We're still #2 public behind The Citadel. Christopher Newport is right behind us at #11. They've really advanced themselves each year...

VCU drops in the rankings, ODU drops out of the rankings all together. Almost every other VA university appears to have improved or stayed the same.
09-12-2017 08:24 AM
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RE: JMU #7 South Regional University in 2018
we were #2 behind Rollins for decade + (private or public)

a shame all the growth has resulted in a slip down the rankings.

not that these things matter a whole heck of a lot, but you'd rather be higher than lower
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RE: JMU #7 South Regional University in 2018
oh, and by the way, for those complaining about the student fees for athletics.....within and outside JMU.....tuition at just over $10,000 in-state.

that remains an incredible bargain for what the university provides as far as experience and education.
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RE: JMU #7 South Regional University in 2018
(09-12-2017 08:29 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  oh, and by the way, for those complaining about the student fees for athletics.....within and outside JMU.....tuition at just over $10,000 in-state.

that remains an incredible bargain for what the university provides as far as experience and education.

This x1000, my oldest is a sophomore and I can tell you that the total package was significantly less than most of the other state schools she applied to besides maybe Radford. I didn't even think about breaking out the student fees and comparing them, because I've got to pay the whole bill anyway and it was so much less.
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RE: JMU #7 South Regional University in 2018
(09-12-2017 08:29 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  oh, and by the way, for those complaining about the student fees for athletics.....within and outside JMU.....tuition at just over $10,000 in-state.

that remains an incredible bargain for what the university provides as far as experience and education.

Rightttttt, but if athletic fees were reduced then tuition could be lower which would make it even more of an incredible bargain. Or, tuition could remain the same with a larger percentage going to academics, which would hopefully (assuming thoughtful spending) again provide an even more incredible bargain.

Agreed that regardless of the breakdown, JMU provides a GREAT ROI (I Kiplinger's does an ROI ranking where JMU receives ~ top 5 rating). But to use "the school already provides a great bargain" as an excuse (which you might not be doing) for high student student fees doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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RE: JMU #7 South Regional University in 2018
(09-12-2017 11:20 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 08:29 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  oh, and by the way, for those complaining about the student fees for athletics.....within and outside JMU.....tuition at just over $10,000 in-state.

that remains an incredible bargain for what the university provides as far as experience and education.

Rightttttt, but if athletic fees were reduced then tuition could be lower which would make it even more of an incredible bargain. Or, tuition could remain the same with a larger percentage going to academics, which would hopefully (assuming thoughtful spending) again provide an even more incredible bargain.

Agreed that regardless of the breakdown, JMU provides a GREAT ROI (I Kiplinger's does an ROI ranking where JMU receives ~ top 5 rating). But to use "the school already provides a great bargain" as an excuse (which you might not be doing) for high student student fees doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

should we do a la carte tuition then?

why should a student that isn't interested in Music or Arts have to pay for the cost of the new music center?

the only difference between the two is that the State mandates athletics fees be separately stated. How much of every student's tuition goes to fund large capital projects or programs that the vast majority of student's will never take part or benefit from?
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RE: JMU #7 South Regional University in 2018
(09-12-2017 11:25 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:20 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 08:29 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  oh, and by the way, for those complaining about the student fees for athletics.....within and outside JMU.....tuition at just over $10,000 in-state.

that remains an incredible bargain for what the university provides as far as experience and education.

Rightttttt, but if athletic fees were reduced then tuition could be lower which would make it even more of an incredible bargain. Or, tuition could remain the same with a larger percentage going to academics, which would hopefully (assuming thoughtful spending) again provide an even more incredible bargain.

Agreed that regardless of the breakdown, JMU provides a GREAT ROI (I Kiplinger's does an ROI ranking where JMU receives ~ top 5 rating). But to use "the school already provides a great bargain" as an excuse (which you might not be doing) for high student student fees doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

should we do a la carte tuition then?

why should a student that isn't interested in Music or Arts have to pay for the cost of the new music center?

the only difference between the two is that the State mandates athletics fees be separately stated. How much of every student's tuition goes to fund large capital projects or programs that the vast majority of student's will never take part or benefit from?

I agree with your sentiment. Playing devil's advocate, I'm going to guess the argument would be that any student can sign up for a music class, but not everyone can play on the sports teams.
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RE: JMU #7 South Regional University in 2018
(09-12-2017 11:27 AM)jmu007 Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:25 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 11:20 AM)DoubleDogDare Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 08:29 AM)Duke Dawg Wrote:  oh, and by the way, for those complaining about the student fees for athletics.....within and outside JMU.....tuition at just over $10,000 in-state.

that remains an incredible bargain for what the university provides as far as experience and education.

Rightttttt, but if athletic fees were reduced then tuition could be lower which would make it even more of an incredible bargain. Or, tuition could remain the same with a larger percentage going to academics, which would hopefully (assuming thoughtful spending) again provide an even more incredible bargain.

Agreed that regardless of the breakdown, JMU provides a GREAT ROI (I Kiplinger's does an ROI ranking where JMU receives ~ top 5 rating). But to use "the school already provides a great bargain" as an excuse (which you might not be doing) for high student student fees doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

should we do a la carte tuition then?

why should a student that isn't interested in Music or Arts have to pay for the cost of the new music center?

the only difference between the two is that the State mandates athletics fees be separately stated. How much of every student's tuition goes to fund large capital projects or programs that the vast majority of student's will never take part or benefit from?

I agree with your sentiment. Playing devil's advocate, I'm going to guess the argument would be that any student can sign up for a music class, but not everyone can play on the sports teams.

Not exactly true. Any student can sign up for a music appreciation class but not necessarily participate in the upper level classes for music majors.
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RE: JMU #7 South Regional University in 2018
(09-12-2017 11:27 AM)jmu007 Wrote:  I agree with your sentiment. Playing devil's advocate, I'm going to guess the argument would be that any student can sign up for a music class, but not everyone can play on the sports teams.

Everyone student can attend an athletic event for no additional cost. Whether they choose to take advantage of that or not is their own prerogative.
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RE: JMU #7 South Regional University in 2018
we should be clear here - the fees are not HIGH... the fees are a higher percentage of the sports budget when compared to other schools (34M of 47M)

In actual dollars, the fees are lower than average... the average mandatory fee in 2016 was $1,700 - JMU was just $1,366.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ryancraig/2...2fe55a607e

Never saw that article before - a good read and it makes the argument that JMU is aiming to use sports the same way 'bama has... our first sign of smoke for SEC
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