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RE: US News Rankings (or unrankings for some), AAC edition
If the rankings don't work for you..... blame the rankings....That's whining 101
09-12-2017 09:13 AM
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(09-12-2017 07:05 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  At my age, I've been around the block a few times and from my experience the best skilled people tend to rise up the org chart or considered highly valued regardless of the origin of their college degree(s).

I agree 100%. This is a yearly masturbatory thread.
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Once you hit the top 50 there's a strong bottle neck between 50-25 and an even skinnier dance between 25-10. Happy Tulane is moving in the right direction vs. 5 years ago.

These are meaningless to some degree as we compare apples to oranges. When I make my hires it won't be because one person is a 35 school vs. another being a 45.
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FWIW we got this blurb in our inboxes today:

Quote:Tulane University is one of the country’s best institutions of higher education according to the 2018 U.S. News & World Report Best Colleges rankings, which were released today. The popular rankings give Tulane high marks in numerous categories, noting it as a national research university known for the innovation of its curriculum, its focus on student success, its welcoming of veterans and its dedication to public service.

Tulane is ranked 40th among “Best National Universities” and its undergraduate business school is 45th among the nation’s “Best Business Programs.”

Tulane is also ranked 24th among the “Most Innovative Schools.” The schools in this category were selected by fellow university presidents, provosts and admission deans for the innovative improvements they have made in their curriculum, faculty, students, campus life, technology or facilities.

In the “High School Counselors Top College Picks” category Tulane is ranked 39th. The rankings also highlight Tulane’s focus on initiatives that encourage student success, including its service learning program, which is ranked in the nation’s top 25.

“These rankings indicate the success of Tulane’s interdisciplinary approach to research, teaching and learning,” Tulane President Mike Fitts said. “Student and faculty at Tulane combine knowledge from fields as diverse as the arts, engineering, music, medicine and more to address the challenges of our community and our world.”

The rankings come on the heels of Tulane welcoming one of its largest, most academically qualified and diverse first-year classes ever this fall.

Tulane also recently announced that the 2016-17 fiscal year was the best fundraising year in its 183-year history, with new gifts and commitments surpassing $126 million (04-cheers). The increased funding means Tulane can recruit and retain more renowned faculty and provide more support for scholarships, programming and campus facilities.
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[quote='JDTulane' pid='14576940' dateline='1505226885']
FWIW we got this blurb in our inboxes today:

Quote:Tulane University is one of the country’s best institutions of higher education according to the 2018 U.S. News & World Report Best Colleges rankings, which were released today.

Not surprised at all. Everyone in academia knows that, despite the obvious methodological flaws in them, the US News rankings have a great deal of meaning, and have a big influence on school behavior.

It's one thing to say the rankings are flawed, they are. It's another to claim they are meaningless, they aren't.
09-12-2017 09:38 AM
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(09-12-2017 09:02 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 08:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 07:08 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF making a move and now that we have met the state requirements for being a Pre-Eminent school joining UF and FSU in getting more money and recognition that should improve. Our president's move to meet AAU status has raised the bar across the university and is paying off

Genshaft has done a very good job upgrading our academics, and in getting the word out about what we're achieving. That's a really tough thing to move the needle on, particularly at such a large university. I know she's highly paid, and not everyone at USF likes that, but IMO she's getting the job done so she's worth it.

I agree with you she has raised USF to a higher academic standard even after the state took USF polytechnic away from the school and took some of the endowment with them as well as facilities

Yes, and IIRC, in Genshaft's very first year as president, we lost New College, which had always added some lustre to our brand.

Losing "Poly" sucked and there was no good academic reason for it, it was pure pork-barrel power politics from that Lake Wales senator (Alexander?). Losing that campus did highlight the still-weak political position USF is in relative to UF and FSU. One can blame Genshaft for it if you like but I don't think anyone could have stopped it. We are just a long way from the halls of state power and probably always will be.

On a personal note, as a USF doctoral student, i taught several classes there when it was USF-Lakeland in the early 1990s, and had good memories of the campus so was sad to see us lose it.

Nevertheless, the academic gains at USF have been impressive in recent years.
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(09-12-2017 09:13 AM)mike012779 Wrote:  If the rankings don't work for you..... blame the rankings....That's whining 101

If the rankings work for you.... ignore the flaws.... that's homer 101
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(09-12-2017 09:50 AM)pesik Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 09:13 AM)mike012779 Wrote:  If the rankings don't work for you..... blame the rankings....That's whining 101

If the rankings work for you.... ignore the flaws.... that's homer 101

No one is arguing that it doesn't have its flaws. But you have your head in the sand if you think it's meaningless.
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What time is it in Wichita? Are they not shocked awake yet? They're usually all over every thread.
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I had a boss tell me a few years ago that the name of the school only matters for your first job, after that it is about your accomplishments. He was correct. He also fired a Note Dame grad because he was not capable of doing the job at a level that Wright State grads did (software development). Goes to show that just because you come from a prestigious school doesn't mean you are better educated.

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