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USF making a move and now that we have met the state requirements for being a Pre-Eminent school joining UF and FSU in getting more money and recognition that should improve. Our president's move to meet AAU status has raised the bar across the university and is paying off
09-12-2017 07:08 AM
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(09-12-2017 07:08 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF making a move and now that we have met the state requirements for being a Pre-Eminent school joining UF and FSU in getting more money and recognition that should improve. Our president's move to meet AAU status has raised the bar across the university and is paying off
Yeah pretty awesome!

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/gradebook/...ng/2336523
09-12-2017 07:14 AM
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UCONN ranked #18 for Public Universities - 7th straight year in the Top 25.
09-12-2017 07:19 AM
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Congrats to USF on the move up the rankings.
09-12-2017 08:01 AM
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(09-11-2017 11:25 PM)pesik Wrote:  i honestly don't get usnews rankings

houston is harder to get into than 90 schools in front of them, has bigger endowment than 70 in front of them
a higher Carnegie classification than 70 schools in front of them (the leading college classifier)

i get that Houston has a shittty 4year and 6 year graduation rate but how can you weight it that much in a college ranking

not saying this is houston.. but if you had the best professor in the nation but he is hard and 30% of the students drop out because of that.. and you had the worst teacher in the nation but easy and 100% graduate is the second a better college/professor

i will never understand why that is weighed so heavily

Explained better than I have ever seen here!

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09-12-2017 08:22 AM
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(09-12-2017 08:22 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:25 PM)pesik Wrote:  i honestly don't get usnews rankings

houston is harder to get into than 90 schools in front of them, has bigger endowment than 70 in front of them
a higher Carnegie classification than 70 schools in front of them (the leading college classifier)

i get that Houston has a shittty 4year and 6 year graduation rate but how can you weight it that much in a college ranking

not saying this is houston.. but if you had the best professor in the nation but he is hard and 30% of the students drop out because of that.. and you had the worst teacher in the nation but easy and 100% graduate is the second a better college/professor

i will never understand why that is weighed so heavily

Explained better than I have ever seen here!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtQyO93DO-Q

Full clip is here but you have to log in.

http://www.trutv.com/full-episodes/adam-...index.html

Funnier still is the fact that a school like Cincinnati, where three of the four largest colleges (Business (Top 100), Engineering (Top 75), and DAAP (Top 10)) REQUIRE you to go 5 years, gets ranked poorly for programs that make the specific colleges better. Most of the best students at Cincinnati end up reflecting negatively on the USNWR rankings (which are used as toilet tissue in Higher Education Circles by the way), which is about as counter intuitive as you can get.
09-12-2017 08:31 AM
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More whining about these rankings than UCONN fans whining about conference affiliation. That's quite the accomplishment. 07-coffee3
09-12-2017 08:46 AM
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(09-11-2017 10:47 PM)geef Wrote:  The annual somewhat meaningless US News college rankings are out ...
South Florida - 140 (159)

Like it or not, and I agree there are good reasons not to like it, the US News rankings are far from meaningless, to the contrary, they are very influential on school behavior.

Good to see USF take such a big leap upwards. 04-cheers
09-12-2017 08:55 AM
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(09-12-2017 07:08 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF making a move and now that we have met the state requirements for being a Pre-Eminent school joining UF and FSU in getting more money and recognition that should improve. Our president's move to meet AAU status has raised the bar across the university and is paying off

Genshaft has done a very good job upgrading our academics, and in getting the word out about what we're achieving. That's a really tough thing to move the needle on, particularly at such a large university. I know she's highly paid, and not everyone at USF likes that, but IMO she's getting the job done so she's worth it.
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(09-12-2017 08:58 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(09-12-2017 07:08 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  USF making a move and now that we have met the state requirements for being a Pre-Eminent school joining UF and FSU in getting more money and recognition that should improve. Our president's move to meet AAU status has raised the bar across the university and is paying off

Genshaft has done a very good job upgrading our academics, and in getting the word out about what we're achieving. That's a really tough thing to move the needle on, particularly at such a large university. I know she's highly paid, and not everyone at USF likes that, but IMO she's getting the job done so she's worth it.

I agree with you she has raised USF to a higher academic standard even after the state took USF polytechnic away from the school and took some of the endowment with them as well as facilities
09-12-2017 09:02 AM
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