(09-16-2017 11:37 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  WKU's HC and our D won this game for Tech.
we couldn't get to your QB at all and your HC decided to shut your passing game down and try to pound the ball down our throats. sent Baker back into the game and got him injured again is mind blowing.
skip called a bad game but your HC outdid him.

I thought we had a good offensive game plan. But, I certainly didn't understand throwing the ball deep when it was intercepted. We were at mid field or so, and I thought we should get in a 2 back set and run the damn ball, burn the clock, and methodically undulate our way to the goal. I read something this morning where Skip had told Smith to focus on getting 5 yards per play and it sounded like our QB made the decision to throw deep on that play. I didn't think he would have that latitude. Of course, I may have not understood what Skip said. Anyway, the defense did a helluva job getting the ball right back and the offense did what they had to do. Man, what a game. I expected both teams to be improved since the first 2 games. I don't know that they were but it was a good game. It will be interesting to see how the coaches grade our team's performance. We were fortunate to win, but hung in the whole game and overcame adversity. Next week will tell us a lot.

Without looking it up, I would think that was the lowest scoring game, by quite a margin, between WKU and Tech.

(09-17-2017 12:05 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 10:23 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  well at least if Tech meets WKU in the championship game it will be in Ruston this season

If that happens everyone in the east needs to drop to 1aa.

I despise this coach with everything in me. Cannot stand him as a coach or man. Always looking to push responsibility off on the players or anyone other than Stanford

First off congratulation to Tech

Now I read post saying this offense looked better and Boise St like...bull ******* ****! None of those, well it looked better than at Ill. But if it was worth a ****...or maybe I should say coach was worth a ****. There would have been 28 points on the Western side by halftime.

Tech gave Western the middle on every freaking play...not 8 out of 10. Freaking 10 out of 10 Western could have hit a 5 to 10 yard pass on every down. Yet this ******* coach who I DESPISE (I'm not even joking one bit) wants to keep running the ball into the middle of a line with 6 to 8 players. Not only that but they know where the run is going EVERYTIME!

Told my son this game was over, Western loss, with 12+ minutes left and the coach wanted to run clock.....

on those last 3 Western possession (can't call them drives) I though Tech's safety was going to have a heart attack he was so excited....he knew where the run was going 10 seconds before the snap. On a few of them Tech only had 1 player deeper than 5 yards at the snap. Everyone saw it but the Western coaches.

Whoever said Western's offensive played better other than the 4th. You are correct with one correction. No part of those 3 sacks belongs to that offensive line. When the other team knows your play and have 2 or 3 more rushers than blockers...

that's coaching

I despise this coach with everything in me. The only other person more responsible than this coach....the Western AD. The stupid ******* that believe it was a good ideal to hire a coach that was going to take this program in a 100% completely different direction.

Not only that bit a coach that was going to be fired by ND. NoT only that but pay this 35 year old 800k the same Western was paying Brohm. But not only that then let this coach go out and fill his staff with 6 out of 8 coaches that coached in 1aa or D3 last year....

6 out of 8 and 4 of those came from Indiana St. That is 1aa and not a good program at that. Indiana St was coached by Sanford's dad...who was hire along with 3 others from his staff.

Did I say I despise a ******* that totally destroyed this program in 3 freaking weeks. But in all honesty I knew this months ago but was just hoping I was wrong.

Like I said congratulation to Tech on the win and I don't mean to make this sound like a backhand congratulation....

But Western's players did not lose this game tonight. The dumb*** Western coach refused to let them try to win it.

Don't know which I dislike the most right now. Coach or AD

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I take it you are not enthused with your HC. How/why did Brohm leave? I really don't know, so it is an honest question. Are the differences in the new guy and WKUs recent teams a matter of personnel or coaching philosophy? Did WKU consider promoting from within the program?

(09-17-2017 09:19 AM)Dawgxas Wrote:  WKUYG, go back and watch the recording, 2 of the 3 sacks Ferguson just beat the tackle.

Baker was running effectively and Tech couldn't stop him until he got hurt. The coaches shouldn't put him back in the game.

WKU not having Taywon Taylor really hurts because they don't have a WR that can stretch the field.

Tech could have scored at the end if they wanted to, so the missed field goal did not lose the game for them. However the double reverse on second down was a stupid play call and put them in bad spot on third down in the red zone.

go back and watch the recording

Is a replay of the game available thru STADIUM?

(09-17-2017 06:13 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 12:05 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 10:23 PM)techdawg88 Wrote:  well at least if Tech meets WKU in the championship game it will be in Ruston this season

If that happens everyone in the east needs to drop to 1aa.

I despise this coach with everything in me. Cannot stand him as a coach or man. Always looking to push responsibility off on the players or anyone other than Stanford

First off congratulation to Tech

Now I read post saying this offense looked better and Boise St like...bull ******* ****! None of those, well it looked better than at Ill. But if it was worth a ****...or maybe I should say coach was worth a ****. There would have been 28 points on the Western side by halftime.

Tech gave Western the middle on every freaking play...not 8 out of 10. Freaking 10 out of 10 Western could have hit a 5 to 10 yard pass on every down. Yet this ******* coach who I DESPISE (I'm not even joking one bit) wants to keep running the ball into the middle of a line with 6 to 8 players. Not only that but they know where the run is going EVERYTIME!

Told my son this game was over, Western loss, with 12+ minutes left and the coach wanted to run clock.....

on those last 3 Western possession (can't call them drives) I though Tech's safety was going to have a heart attack he was so excited....he knew where the run was going 10 seconds before the snap. On a few of them Tech only had 1 player deeper than 5 yards at the snap. Everyone saw it but the Western coaches.

Whoever said Western's offensive played better other than the 4th. You are correct with one correction. No part of those 3 sacks belongs to that offensive line. When the other team knows your play and have 2 or 3 more rushers than blockers...

that's coaching

I despise this coach with everything in me. The only other person more responsible than this coach....the Western AD. The stupid ******* that believe it was a good ideal to hire a coach that was going to take this program in a 100% completely different direction.

Not only that bit a coach that was going to be fired by ND. NoT only that but pay this 35 year old 800k the same Western was paying Brohm. But not only that then let this coach go out and fill his staff with 6 out of 8 coaches that coached in 1aa or D3 last year....

6 out of 8 and 4 of those came from Indiana St. That is 1aa and not a good program at that. Indiana St was coached by Sanford's dad...who was hire along with 3 others from his staff.

Did I say I despise a ******* that totally destroyed this program in 3 freaking weeks. But in all honesty I knew this months ago but was just hoping I was wrong.

Like I said congratulation to Tech on the win and I don't mean to make this sound like a backhand congratulation....

But Western's players did not lose this game tonight. The dumb*** Western coach refused to let them try to win it.

Don't know which I dislike the most right now. Coach or AD

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I take it you are not enthused with your HC. How/why did Brohm leave? I really don't know, so it is an honest question. Are the differences in the new guy and WKUs recent teams a matter of personnel or coaching philosophy?

Brohm got offered 4 million a year at Purdue..... new coach is green as hell and he hired most all his assistants form D3 or the FCS ranks. Im not given up yet, but it make me sick that the hire WKU made was a unproven hire. Soon as or if Sanford succeeds, WKU will have to start over again while only get one decent year after 3 bad

(09-17-2017 05:54 PM)stodgdog Wrote:  

(09-16-2017 11:37 PM)NanoDawg Wrote:  WKU's HC and our D won this game for Tech.
we couldn't get to your QB at all and your HC decided to shut your passing game down and try to pound the ball down our throats. sent Baker back into the game and got him injured again is mind blowing.
skip called a bad game but your HC outdid him.

I thought we had a good offensive game plan. But, I certainly didn't understand throwing the ball deep when it was intercepted. We were at mid field or so, and I thought we should get in a 2 back set and run the damn ball, burn the clock, and methodically undulate our way to the goal. I read something this morning where Skip had told Smith to focus on getting 5 yards per play and it sounded like our QB made the decision to throw deep on that play. I didn't think he would have that latitude. Of course, I may have not understood what Skip said. Anyway, the defense did a helluva job getting the ball right back and the offense did what they had to do. Man, what a game. I expected both teams to be improved since the first 2 games. I don't know that they were but it was a good game. It will be interesting to see how the coaches grade our team's performance. We were fortunate to win, but hung in the whole game and overcame adversity. Next week will tell us a lot.

Without looking it up, I would think that was the lowest scoring game, by quite a margin, between WKU and Tech.

3rd and 2 while we were moving the ball with ease and WKU didn't even stuff the line up - that was a mind blowing call.
Fortunately for Tech, WKU Coach had no idea what to do with the ball after the interception.

Enough belly aching from WKU fans. You guys did play a pretty decent football team last night. I'd like to think LA Tech had something to do with last nights outcome in Bowling Green.

You WKU guys are being way too hard on your coaches and team.

I predict that WKU cuts thru CUSA east like a hot knife thru butter this year. WKU (currently 1-2) will finish either 9-3 with a loss to Vandy, or 10-2. Either way, I say they end up in the CUSA championship game against either LA Tech or UTSA.

(09-17-2017 07:23 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Enough belly aching from WKU fans. You guys did play a pretty decent football team last night. I'd like to think LA Tech had something to do with last nights outcome in Bowling Green.

You WKU guys are being way too hard on your coaches and team.

I predict that WKU cuts thru CUSA east like a hot knife thru butter this year. WKU (currently 1-2) will finish either 9-3 with a loss to Vandy, or 10-2. Either way, I say they end up in the CUSA championship game against either LA Tech or UTSA.

All kidding aside, what brings you to this conclusion?
USM has destroyed La Tech the last two years and has without doubt a far more superior team this year. I think the coaching matchup favors USM in this case. We like playing teams with more old school coaches. We just seem to be more prepared. We are near the top or at the top in most meaningful conference stats. We held Kentucky, an undefeated SEC team (1-0 in SEC) to 250 yards, I believe 11 first downs and 17 offensive points. They beat us by 7 and needed 7 off a fumble returned 40 yards and a whole half donated to them by our QB decision. Not to mention the timely penalties at the end of the game. Not to mention Kentucky beat MSU last year and they both returned a similar number of starters. Didn't MSU just skulldrag you guys?
UTSA beat our only common opponent by a similar margin but gave up 17 points. We played basically a half of football, substituted in bunches and allowed 0 points and 0 third down conversions. UTSA does have a 7 point win over a P5 opponent that is winless and has already been beaten by a transitioning FCS program.
I do understand USM has struggled getting back on its feet after the EJ debacle but we are about to turn the corner and gain back the respect we deserve.
Overlook us at your own peril.

Some of our USM fans are jumping the gun a bit. We will be competitive, but inexperience in the offensive line and quarterback will cost us more than once this season.IMHO, however, we are slowly on our way back....

No one is overlooking USM or UTSA. Just glad we have USM and UTSA at home this year

(09-17-2017 09:42 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 07:23 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Enough belly aching from WKU fans. You guys did play a pretty decent football team last night. I'd like to think LA Tech had something to do with last nights outcome in Bowling Green.

You WKU guys are being way too hard on your coaches and team.

I predict that WKU cuts thru CUSA east like a hot knife thru butter this year. WKU (currently 1-2) will finish either 9-3 with a loss to Vandy, or 10-2. Either way, I say they end up in the CUSA championship game against either LA Tech or UTSA.

All kidding aside, what brings you to this conclusion?
USM has destroyed La Tech the last two years and has without doubt a far more superior team this year. I think the coaching matchup favors USM in this case. We like playing teams with more old school coaches. We just seem to be more prepared. We are near the top or at the top in most meaningful conference stats. We held Kentucky, an undefeated SEC team (1-0 in SEC) to 250 yards, I believe 11 first downs and 17 offensive points. They beat us by 7 and needed 7 off a fumble returned 40 yards and a whole half donated to them by our QB decision. Not to mention the timely penalties at the end of the game. Not to mention Kentucky beat MSU last year and they both returned a similar number of starters. Didn't MSU just skulldrag you guys?
UTSA beat our only common opponent by a similar margin but gave up 17 points. We played basically a half of football, substituted in bunches and allowed 0 points and 0 third down conversions. UTSA does have a 7 point win over a P5 opponent that is winless and has already been beaten by a transitioning FCS program.
I do understand USM has struggled getting back on its feet after the EJ debacle but we are about to turn the corner and gain back the respect we deserve.
Overlook us at your own peril.

Oh come on now. Those 17 points against Southern were by the 2nd and 3rd teams lol. Not really anything there. But I do agree that right now it looks like USM is the better team over Latech. I say USM takes that game as of today. Now The USM and UTSA game is a toss up. I think it could go either way. Both teams would match up well, but today I gotta give the edge to UTSA for playing at home and coming off of a restful bye week. And hopefully a 3-0 start to the season. But you guys better first take care of business against UNT.

(09-17-2017 09:42 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 07:23 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Enough belly aching from WKU fans. You guys did play a pretty decent football team last night. I'd like to think LA Tech had something to do with last nights outcome in Bowling Green.

You WKU guys are being way too hard on your coaches and team.

I predict that WKU cuts thru CUSA east like a hot knife thru butter this year. WKU (currently 1-2) will finish either 9-3 with a loss to Vandy, or 10-2. Either way, I say they end up in the CUSA championship game against either LA Tech or UTSA.

All kidding aside, what brings you to this conclusion?
USM has destroyed La Tech the last two years and has without doubt a far more superior team this year. I think the coaching matchup favors USM in this case. We like playing teams with more old school coaches. We just seem to be more prepared. We are near the top or at the top in most meaningful conference stats. We held Kentucky, an undefeated SEC team (1-0 in SEC) to 250 yards, I believe 11 first downs and 17 offensive points. They beat us by 7 and needed 7 off a fumble returned 40 yards and a whole half donated to them by our QB decision. Not to mention the timely penalties at the end of the game. Not to mention Kentucky beat MSU last year and they both returned a similar number of starters. Didn't MSU just skulldrag you guys?
UTSA beat our only common opponent by a similar margin but gave up 17 points. We played basically a half of football, substituted in bunches and allowed 0 points and 0 third down conversions. UTSA does have a 7 point win over a P5 opponent that is winless and has already been beaten by a transitioning FCS program.
I do understand USM has struggled getting back on its feet after the EJ debacle but we are about to turn the corner and gain back the respect we deserve.
Overlook us at your own peril.

And they skull dragged #12 LSU

(09-17-2017 10:02 PM)Free bird Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:42 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 07:23 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Enough belly aching from WKU fans. You guys did play a pretty decent football team last night. I'd like to think LA Tech had something to do with last nights outcome in Bowling Green.

You WKU guys are being way too hard on your coaches and team.

I predict that WKU cuts thru CUSA east like a hot knife thru butter this year. WKU (currently 1-2) will finish either 9-3 with a loss to Vandy, or 10-2. Either way, I say they end up in the CUSA championship game against either LA Tech or UTSA.

All kidding aside, what brings you to this conclusion?
USM has destroyed La Tech the last two years and has without doubt a far more superior team this year. I think the coaching matchup favors USM in this case. We like playing teams with more old school coaches. We just seem to be more prepared. We are near the top or at the top in most meaningful conference stats. We held Kentucky, an undefeated SEC team (1-0 in SEC) to 250 yards, I believe 11 first downs and 17 offensive points. They beat us by 7 and needed 7 off a fumble returned 40 yards and a whole half donated to them by our QB decision. Not to mention the timely penalties at the end of the game. Not to mention Kentucky beat MSU last year and they both returned a similar number of starters. Didn't MSU just skulldrag you guys?
UTSA beat our only common opponent by a similar margin but gave up 17 points. We played basically a half of football, substituted in bunches and allowed 0 points and 0 third down conversions. UTSA does have a 7 point win over a P5 opponent that is winless and has already been beaten by a transitioning FCS program.
I do understand USM has struggled getting back on its feet after the EJ debacle but we are about to turn the corner and gain back the respect we deserve.
Overlook us at your own peril.

Oh come on now. Those 17 points against Southern were by the 2nd and 3rd teams lol. Not really anything there. But I do agree that right now it looks like USM is the better team over Latech. I say USM takes that game as of today. Now The USM and UTSA game is a toss up. I think it could go either way. Both teams would match up well, but today I gotta give the edge to UTSA for playing at home and coming off of a restful bye week. And hopefully a 3-0 start to the season. But you guys better first take care of business against UNT.

I would argue parity at the top of both divisions is going to be the norm this year.....

I highly doubt anyone goes undefeated and wouldn't be surprised if either the east/west OR both division champs have 2 losses in conference....

just b/c we have a shite tv package and the nation doesn't care about cusa, doesn't mean that half the league doesn't have quality talent at the top....

there are some good match-ups this year that are going to be fun to watch....

as a fan, I'm not sure what else is left at this point....

(09-17-2017 09:42 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 07:23 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Enough belly aching from WKU fans. You guys did play a pretty decent football team last night. I'd like to think LA Tech had something to do with last nights outcome in Bowling Green.

You WKU guys are being way too hard on your coaches and team.

I predict that WKU cuts thru CUSA east like a hot knife thru butter this year. WKU (currently 1-2) will finish either 9-3 with a loss to Vandy, or 10-2. Either way, I say they end up in the CUSA championship game against either LA Tech or UTSA.

All kidding aside, what brings you to this conclusion?
USM has destroyed La Tech the last two years and has without doubt a far more superior team this year. I think the coaching matchup favors USM in this case. We like playing teams with more old school coaches. We just seem to be more prepared. We are near the top or at the top in most meaningful conference stats. We held Kentucky, an undefeated SEC team (1-0 in SEC) to 250 yards, I believe 11 first downs and 17 offensive points. They beat us by 7 and needed 7 off a fumble returned 40 yards and a whole half donated to them by our QB decision. Not to mention the timely penalties at the end of the game. Not to mention Kentucky beat MSU last year and they both returned a similar number of starters. Didn't MSU just skulldrag you guys?
UTSA beat our only common opponent by a similar margin but gave up 17 points. We played basically a half of football, substituted in bunches and allowed 0 points and 0 third down conversions. UTSA does have a 7 point win over a P5 opponent that is winless and has already been beaten by a transitioning FCS program.
I do understand USM has struggled getting back on its feet after the EJ debacle but we are about to turn the corner and gain back the respect we deserve.
Overlook us at your own peril.

That's great to know because the far superior team has lost the last two years now it's USM turn.

(09-17-2017 10:26 PM)Dawgxas Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 09:42 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(09-17-2017 07:23 PM)HogDawg Wrote:  Enough belly aching from WKU fans. You guys did play a pretty decent football team last night. I'd like to think LA Tech had something to do with last nights outcome in Bowling Green.

You WKU guys are being way too hard on your coaches and team.

I predict that WKU cuts thru CUSA east like a hot knife thru butter this year. WKU (currently 1-2) will finish either 9-3 with a loss to Vandy, or 10-2. Either way, I say they end up in the CUSA championship game against either LA Tech or UTSA.

All kidding aside, what brings you to this conclusion?
USM has destroyed La Tech the last two years and has without doubt a far more superior team this year. I think the coaching matchup favors USM in this case. We like playing teams with more old school coaches. We just seem to be more prepared. We are near the top or at the top in most meaningful conference stats. We held Kentucky, an undefeated SEC team (1-0 in SEC) to 250 yards, I believe 11 first downs and 17 offensive points. They beat us by 7 and needed 7 off a fumble returned 40 yards and a whole half donated to them by our QB decision. Not to mention the timely penalties at the end of the game. Not to mention Kentucky beat MSU last year and they both returned a similar number of starters. Didn't MSU just skulldrag you guys?
UTSA beat our only common opponent by a similar margin but gave up 17 points. We played basically a half of football, substituted in bunches and allowed 0 points and 0 third down conversions. UTSA does have a 7 point win over a P5 opponent that is winless and has already been beaten by a transitioning FCS program.
I do understand USM has struggled getting back on its feet after the EJ debacle but we are about to turn the corner and gain back the respect we deserve.
Overlook us at your own peril.

That's great to know because the far superior team has lost the last two years now it's USM turn.

Sometimes I do get ahead of myself. You guys understand us better than these noobies. They basically don't know anything about football if it didn't happen thirty minutes ago. I personally hope it's us or y'all. That is all. I don't want some start up winning this conference. Just my biased opinion.

https://twitter.com/sokysportsguy/status...1266058243

This is a replay of the targeting call in which they ejected the WKU player

I agree with it as far as being a textbook target, he lunged for him (obviously let up) leads with the helmet, etc. It was enough for the replay to uphold it... BUT...

But In practice, I would never call that a target. Way too weak for me. J'Mar barely budged. I was hoping they'd just turn down the targeting and keep the roughing the passer. I didn't want you guys to lose your guy for a whole half in the next game.

They seem to have tightened up on the targeting rule this year, imo. They should use force of impact as a parameter for ruling it a target. That simply wasn't a call that felt 'right.'

(09-18-2017 09:48 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  https://twitter.com/sokysportsguy/status...1266058243

This is a replay of the targeting call in which they ejected the WKU player

It was one of the sorriest "targeting" calls ever. This stupid crap is getting out of hand with CUSA game officials.

(09-18-2017 09:56 PM)Doots4Dawgs Wrote:  I agree with it as far as being a textbook target, he lunged for him (obviously let up) leads with the helmet, etc. It was enough for the replay to uphold it... BUT...

But In practice, I would never call that a target. Way too weak for me. J'Mar barely budged. I was hoping they'd just turn down the targeting and keep the roughing the passer. I didn't want you guys to lose your guy for a whole half in the next game.

They seem to have tightened up on the targeting rule this year, imo. They should use force of impact as a parameter for ruling it a target. That simply wasn't a call that felt 'right.'

I saw a slow motion replay, he appeared to have his arms between him and the QB.

(09-18-2017 09:48 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  https://twitter.com/sokysportsguy/status...1266058243

This is a replay of the targeting call in which they ejected the WKU player

This is first replay I've seen since what they showed on the Jumbotron and my goodness that is weak. Yeah the hit was a bit late but it almost looks like he stumbles into him...