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RE: Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
This pope doesn't even believe Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the LIFE, and the only way to the Father.

He has told billions of Muslims, Hindus, atheists, etc that they do not even need Christ to be forgiven by God.

That is 1000000000000000000000000000000000 times more important than DACA
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Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
He needs to worry about his priests behavior and keep his nose out of this, do not like his theology either.


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RE: Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
(09-11-2017 04:35 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  This pope doesn't even believe Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the LIFE, and the only way to the Father.

He has told billions of Muslims, Hindus, atheists, etc that they do not even need Christ to be forgiven by God.

That is 1000000000000000000000000000000000 times more important than DACA

Yeah, I read that somewhere when it came out. I guess the Pope is now an official member of the Church of Oprah because that's what she believes too. The New Age Church is gaining members and that Ol' Beelzebub is thankful for that.
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RE: Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
(09-11-2017 04:42 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 04:35 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  This pope doesn't even believe Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the LIFE, and the only way to the Father.

He has told billions of Muslims, Hindus, atheists, etc that they do not even need Christ to be forgiven by God.

That is 1000000000000000000000000000000000 times more important than DACA

Yeah, I read that somewhere when it came out. I guess the Pope is now an official member of the Church of Oprah because that's what she believes too. The New Age Church is gaining members and that Ol' Beelzebub is thankful for that.

Many are those who will speak His name without knowing Him.

The Bible is very clear on this, and the result.
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RE: Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
(09-11-2017 01:53 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 01:38 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:38 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Not the 1st or last time the Catholic church is wrong.

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Yeah, there's a reason I'm a Protestant.

4. In 2008, the United Methodist Church called for comprehensive immigration reform. They said, “We are living in a time of persecution and oppression due to ignorance and fear. There is frustration on all sides about the state of our immigration laws. We must work to channel that frustration into advocacy for the passage of a comprehensive immigration reform bill.”

5. The Southern Baptist Convention issued a statement supporting immigration reform at a meeting in Phoenix, Arizona, in 2011, and resolved, “That we affirm that while Southern Baptists, like other Americans, might disagree on how to achieve just and humane public policy objectives related to immigration, we agree that, when it comes to the gospel of Jesus Christ and to his church, the message, in every language and to every person, is “Whosoever will may come.”

= let em stay.

http://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/chri...id/643083/

[Image: FT_Immigration_Views.png]

[Image: FT_Immigration_Views.png]

I'm a southern baptist, so I clicked on the link. It's interesting what the SBC resolution actually says. It doesn't say "let them in." It says as Christians we are to treat them with love and compassion, it also enforce the law of the land.

Click for resolution

Also, another good thing about being baptist is that each church can do as they please and don't answer to a single person, unlike Catholic Churches who have to follow papal commands.
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I'm Catholic and the Pope can go F himself.
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RE: Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
(09-11-2017 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 02:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:36 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Waiting to see when his papacy opens up the Vatican walls to immigrants.

They already are. 03-yawn

Without paperwork? You can just walk in and stay permanently? You and I both know thats not the case. Again, no nation does what DACA does---especially without the consent of the government (ie-congress). Im Catholic, and can tell you that Pope Francis is clueless on this. He clearly has no idea that DACA could have been immediately ended with no protection at all for the participants had the threatened court case gone forward. Trump literally saved the program by giving it 6 months of life and stopping action from the courts. If DACA is this popular, then Congress should have no trouble acting in next 6 months.

I'd like to add that rescinding DACA is not pro-nuke either---another issue thats equally as unrelated to DACA as the pro-life stance.

As a proclaimed Catholic, your knowledge of Vatican City is somewhat disturbing. It does not have walls along its entire border and only about 800 people live there and just over half have Vatican citizenship. It's not exactly a burgeoning country teeming with opportunity for immigrants. And your knowledge of Catholicism is even worse is you can't see what the church has done for immigrants over its history.

Correct. It has a wall, around 100 acres, its own security force, and only allows about half its residents to become citizens. It also has a net revenue of 308 million, giving it per capita earnings $356,796---meaning it is the richest state in the world per capita. Go walk into the Vatican and set up shop with no intent of leaving. Let me know how that goes. I'll give you a hint, you cant do there what the Pope is advocating the US do. In fact, you cant cross the border illegally and gain legal citizenship in ANY nation---so his disagreement with US immigration policy would be true of every country on earth--including Mexico---who shoots immgirants attempting to illegally enter Mexico from poorer countries south of their borders.

Im a Catholic, but I disagree with the Church all the time. Classifying homosexuality as a moral disorder and refusing to allow women to become priests is wrong in my opinion. Catholics are not monolithic---especially American Catholics.
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RE: Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
(09-11-2017 06:46 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 02:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:36 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Waiting to see when his papacy opens up the Vatican walls to immigrants.

They already are. 03-yawn

Without paperwork? You can just walk in and stay permanently? You and I both know thats not the case. Again, no nation does what DACA does---especially without the consent of the government (ie-congress). Im Catholic, and can tell you that Pope Francis is clueless on this. He clearly has no idea that DACA could have been immediately ended with no protection at all for the participants had the threatened court case gone forward. Trump literally saved the program by giving it 6 months of life and stopping action from the courts. If DACA is this popular, then Congress should have no trouble acting in next 6 months.

I'd like to add that rescinding DACA is not pro-nuke either---another issue thats equally as unrelated to DACA as the pro-life stance.

As a proclaimed Catholic, your knowledge of Vatican City is somewhat disturbing. It does not have walls along its entire border and only about 800 people live there and just over half have Vatican citizenship. It's not exactly a burgeoning country teeming with opportunity for immigrants. And your knowledge of Catholicism is even worse is you can't see what the church has done for immigrants over its history.

Correct. It has a wall, around 100 acres, its own security force, and only allows about half its residents to become citizens. It also has a net revenue of 308 million, giving it per capita earnings $356,796---meaning it is the richest state in the world per capita. Go walk into the Vatican and set up shop with no intent of leaving. Let me know how that goes. I'll give you a hint, you cant do there what the Pope is advocating the US do. In fact, you cant cross the border illegally and gain legal citizenship in ANY nation---so his disagreement with US immigration policy would be true of every country on earth--including Mexico---who shoots immgirants attempting to illegally enter Mexico from poorer countries south of their borders.

Im a Catholic, but I disagree with the Church all the time. Classifying homosexuality as a moral disorder and refusing to allow women to become priests is wrong in my opinion. Catholics are not monolithic---especially American Catholics.

But you're missing the point, there's no reason for anyone to even do this. There is no worthwhile opportunity there for an immigrant to even think about doing something like you suggest, so that makes your argument moot...a strawman if you will.
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RE: Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
(09-12-2017 08:47 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 06:46 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 02:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  They already are. 03-yawn

Without paperwork? You can just walk in and stay permanently? You and I both know thats not the case. Again, no nation does what DACA does---especially without the consent of the government (ie-congress). Im Catholic, and can tell you that Pope Francis is clueless on this. He clearly has no idea that DACA could have been immediately ended with no protection at all for the participants had the threatened court case gone forward. Trump literally saved the program by giving it 6 months of life and stopping action from the courts. If DACA is this popular, then Congress should have no trouble acting in next 6 months.

I'd like to add that rescinding DACA is not pro-nuke either---another issue thats equally as unrelated to DACA as the pro-life stance.

As a proclaimed Catholic, your knowledge of Vatican City is somewhat disturbing. It does not have walls along its entire border and only about 800 people live there and just over half have Vatican citizenship. It's not exactly a burgeoning country teeming with opportunity for immigrants. And your knowledge of Catholicism is even worse is you can't see what the church has done for immigrants over its history.

Correct. It has a wall, around 100 acres, its own security force, and only allows about half its residents to become citizens. It also has a net revenue of 308 million, giving it per capita earnings $356,796---meaning it is the richest state in the world per capita. Go walk into the Vatican and set up shop with no intent of leaving. Let me know how that goes. I'll give you a hint, you cant do there what the Pope is advocating the US do. In fact, you cant cross the border illegally and gain legal citizenship in ANY nation---so his disagreement with US immigration policy would be true of every country on earth--including Mexico---who shoots immgirants attempting to illegally enter Mexico from poorer countries south of their borders.

Im a Catholic, but I disagree with the Church all the time. Classifying homosexuality as a moral disorder and refusing to allow women to become priests is wrong in my opinion. Catholics are not monolithic---especially American Catholics.

But you're missing the point, there's no reason for anyone to even do this. There is no worthwhile opportunity there for an immigrant to even think about doing something like you suggest, so that makes your argument moot...a strawman if you will.

So why should an illegal immigrant have that opportunity here?
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(09-11-2017 06:26 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I'm Catholic and the Pope can go F himself.

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