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RE: Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
(09-11-2017 01:38 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:38 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Not the 1st or last time the Catholic church is wrong.

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4. In 2008, the United Methodist Church called for comprehensive immigration reform. They said, “We are living in a time of persecution and oppression due to ignorance and fear. There is frustration on all sides about the state of our immigration laws. We must work to channel that frustration into advocacy for the passage of a comprehensive immigration reform bill.”

5. The Southern Baptist Convention issued a statement supporting immigration reform at a meeting in Phoenix, Arizona, in 2011, and resolved, “That we affirm that while Southern Baptists, like other Americans, might disagree on how to achieve just and humane public policy objectives related to immigration, we agree that, when it comes to the gospel of Jesus Christ and to his church, the message, in every language and to every person, is “Whosoever will may come.”

= let em stay.

http://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/chri...id/643083/

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RE: Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
(09-11-2017 01:53 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 01:38 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:38 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  Not the 1st or last time the Catholic church is wrong.

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Yeah, there's a reason I'm a Protestant.

4. In 2008, the United Methodist Church called for comprehensive immigration reform. They said, “We are living in a time of persecution and oppression due to ignorance and fear. There is frustration on all sides about the state of our immigration laws. We must work to channel that frustration into advocacy for the passage of a comprehensive immigration reform bill.”

5. The Southern Baptist Convention issued a statement supporting immigration reform at a meeting in Phoenix, Arizona, in 2011, and resolved, “That we affirm that while Southern Baptists, like other Americans, might disagree on how to achieve just and humane public policy objectives related to immigration, we agree that, when it comes to the gospel of Jesus Christ and to his church, the message, in every language and to every person, is “Whosoever will may come.”

= let em stay.

http://www.newsmax.com/FastFeatures/chri...id/643083/

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Technically, most folks want immigration REFORM. We just expect the existing laws to be followed or those violating them to be punished.

Kinda like if I were to break a law. What should happen? Legal reform after the fact?
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RE: Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
Somewhat ironic considering history. Ever heard of the Requerimiento or the Spanish Requirement of 1513.

I guess if you conquer and indoctrinate you can also dictate where they can migrate.

Interesting indeed.
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(09-11-2017 11:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:36 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Waiting to see when his papacy opens up the Vatican walls to immigrants.

They already are. 03-yawn

Without paperwork? You can just walk in and stay permanently? You and I both know thats not the case. Again, no nation does what DACA does---especially without the consent of the government (ie-congress). Im Catholic, and can tell you that Pope Francis is clueless on this. He clearly has no idea that DACA could have been immediately ended with no protection at all for the participants had the threatened court case gone forward. Trump literally saved the program by giving it 6 months of life and stopping action from the courts. If DACA is this popular, then Congress should have no trouble acting in next 6 months.

I'd like to add that rescinding DACA is not pro-nuke either---another issue thats equally as unrelated to DACA as the pro-life stance.
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"The Pope" and the Catholic Church have deceived millions.
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(09-11-2017 02:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:36 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Waiting to see when his papacy opens up the Vatican walls to immigrants.

They already are. 03-yawn

Without paperwork? You can just walk in and stay permanently? You and I both know thats not the case. Again, no nation does what DACA does---especially without the consent of the government (ie-congress). Im Catholic, and can tell you that Pope Francis is clueless on this. He clearly has no idea that DACA could have been immediately ended with no protection at all for the participants had the threatened court case gone forward. Trump literally saved the program by giving it 6 months of life and stopping action from the courts. If DACA is this popular, then Congress should have no trouble acting in next 6 months.

I'd like to add that rescinding DACA is not pro-nuke either---another issue thats equally as unrelated to DACA as the pro-life stance.

As a proclaimed Catholic, your knowledge of Vatican City is somewhat disturbing. It does not have walls along its entire border and only about 800 people live there and just over half have Vatican citizenship. It's not exactly a burgeoning country teeming with opportunity for immigrants. And your knowledge of Catholicism is even worse is you can't see what the church has done for immigrants over its history.
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(09-11-2017 03:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 02:01 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:43 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:36 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Waiting to see when his papacy opens up the Vatican walls to immigrants.

They already are. 03-yawn

Without paperwork? You can just walk in and stay permanently? You and I both know thats not the case. Again, no nation does what DACA does---especially without the consent of the government (ie-congress). Im Catholic, and can tell you that Pope Francis is clueless on this. He clearly has no idea that DACA could have been immediately ended with no protection at all for the participants had the threatened court case gone forward. Trump literally saved the program by giving it 6 months of life and stopping action from the courts. If DACA is this popular, then Congress should have no trouble acting in next 6 months.

I'd like to add that rescinding DACA is not pro-nuke either---another issue thats equally as unrelated to DACA as the pro-life stance.

As a proclaimed Catholic, your knowledge of Vatican City is somewhat disturbing. It does not have walls along its entire border and only about 800 people live there and just over half have Vatican citizenship. It's not exactly a burgeoning country teeming with opportunity for immigrants. And your knowledge of Catholicism is even worse is you can't see what the church has done for immigrants over its history.

Nowhere did he post anything about Catholicism. Most Catholics probably know very little about Vatican City, knowledge of it is certainly no requirement for being a good or informed Catholic.
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RE: Pope Francis: Rescinding DACA is Not Pro-Life
Remember that time Europeans fled Europe to avoid religious BS from the Catholic and Anglican churches?

I don't give two soggy shites about what the pope thinks.
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(09-11-2017 04:04 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Remember that time Europeans fled Europe to avoid religious BS from the Catholic and Anglican churches?

I don't give two soggy shites about what the pope thinks.

You and me too. There was this wise man that once told the Pope, "if you no playa the game, you no maka the rules".

The Pope and the Catholic Cathechism is what drove me out, like what it says about the Pope as God's representative on earth. Yeah, right. I just finished reading that part in the Bible that says only Jesus is our mediator.
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(09-11-2017 01:36 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  So liberals are ok with an issue by issue theocracy?

Yea, this is pretty amusing to read.

Can't say a prayer before slamming into each other for 60 minutes, SEPARATION!!! but the Pope should be setting our Federal immigration policy. 07-coffee3
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