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Hilarious but honest question about kickers......
So my wife and I were talking about our kid playing football the other day. She is a big soccer fan and I'm obviously a big football fan. So we want to encourage our son to play soccer and football as a kicker.

I have been looking over kickers being recruited and have noticed hardly any of them rank above 3 stars. What makes someone a 4-5 star kicker? I presume accuracy and distance are big factors. Do any of you have more insight?
09-11-2017 08:58 AM
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(09-11-2017 08:58 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  So my wife and I were talking about our kid playing football the other day. She is a big soccer fan and I'm obviously a big football fan. So we want to encourage our son to play soccer and football as a kicker.

I have been looking over kickers being recruited and have noticed hardly any of them rank above 3 stars. What makes someone a 4-5 star kicker? I presume accuracy and distance are big factors. Do any of you have more insight?

I played soccer from near infancy through college. I was also a kicker in high school. There were college opportunities, but my heart was with soccer.

I don't know how someone becomes a 4 or 5 star kicker but, for recruiting and exposure purposes, I highly recommend going to camps with current and former college players, college coaches, and professional coaches. The one I attended a handful of times which helped my in my distance, accuracy, and confidence was Ray Guy's kicking camp. Here's a link: https://www.prokicker.com/. They are typically 2-day camps that last all day. Hope that helps!
09-11-2017 09:44 AM
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I few years back we signed the #1 rated kicker and he was only a 3 star.

I don't think kickers get rated above a 3.
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I don't think there are any coaches who were kickers so they don't value them. I know of several coaches who would force punters to walk-on. And paid for it. After a QB, a great punter would be the next player I would recruit. They can make 5-10 yards difference every possession. And Bobby Bowden (wide right vs. Miami) can tell you about how valuable placekickers can be. How many national championships did it cost him?
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(09-11-2017 10:05 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  I few years back we signed the #1 rated kicker and he was only a 3 star.

I don't think kickers get rated above a 3.

I'm trying to find the logic behind this. There are unrated, 1, 2, and 3 star kickers. What criteria is used to grade a kicker?

And some like this kid are rated literally 1 point from being a 4 star recruit http://247sports.com/Player/Michael-Geiger-21916 .
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(09-11-2017 10:37 AM)bullet Wrote:  I don't think there are any coaches who were kickers so they don't value them. I know of several coaches who would force punters to walk-on. And paid for it. After a QB, a great punter would be the next player I would recruit. They can make 5-10 yards difference every possession. And Bobby Bowden (wide right vs. Miami) can tell you about how valuable placekickers can be. How many national championships did it cost him?

A bad kicker/punter can ruin any team. I'm not sure why their position is so undervalued. How often do teams spend scholarships on having multiple RB/WR's who rarely ever see the field? But refuse to even offer a scholarship in many cases to someone who will be the person who actually wins or losses games?

I mean look at USC. If we had a bad kicker last year we would not have won the Rose Bowl.
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(09-11-2017 10:40 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 10:37 AM)bullet Wrote:  I don't think there are any coaches who were kickers so they don't value them. I know of several coaches who would force punters to walk-on. And paid for it. After a QB, a great punter would be the next player I would recruit. They can make 5-10 yards difference every possession. And Bobby Bowden (wide right vs. Miami) can tell you about how valuable placekickers can be. How many national championships did it cost him?

A bad kicker/punter can ruin any team. I'm not sure why their position is so undervalued. How often do teams spend scholarships on having multiple RB/WR's who rarely ever see the field? But refuse to even offer a scholarship in many cases to someone who will be the person who actually wins or losses games?

I mean look at USC. If we had a bad kicker last year we would not have won the Rose Bowl.

John Mackovic at Texas and Mark Richt at Georgia would not sign punters. Both paid dearly.
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(09-11-2017 10:37 AM)bullet Wrote:  After a QB, a great punter would be the next player I would recruit. They can make 5-10 yards difference every possession.

Right, a top-notch punter is significantly more valuable than just a competent punter. On those possessions when your offense just can't move the ball, it's a huge lift to have a punt that is downed or fair-caught inside the 10 yard line.
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Kickers, some of them at least, are ranked by different services than 247/scout/espn/etc. Virginia Tech's only "5-star" recruit from last year was walk-on a punter/kicker.

http://virginiatech.sportswar.com/free-c...inia-tech/
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(09-11-2017 10:40 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  A bad kicker/punter can ruin any team. I'm not sure why their position is so undervalued.

It's nothing more than pride, ego and machismo on the coaching side.
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