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RE: police report reveals. paterno may have known of earlier Sandusky Abuse
(09-09-2017 05:49 PM)Nittany_Bearcat Wrote:  
(09-09-2017 03:56 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Why isn't Tarman being dragged out into this more? He's allegedly the other guy that with Joe called one of the victims in the 70's.

Tarman - though still alive - has had dementia since the late 2000s.

Yeah, there's an article about him being honored back in 2012, and he couldn't be there due to the affliction. Looking back, it looks like yet another bad gesture by the school.

Quote:I just make it a point never to watch any of their games. Not that their fans care but it's all I can do.

I tried watching parts of Saturday's game, but, yeah...it doesn't feel right. Not even PSU-Pitt (in their throwbacks, no less...a look to the game I haven't seen since I was a kid!) could keep me too interested.

It's not the same. It was built on a lie. No evidence the school really wants to do anything really different...it's still clutching its books and privacy like it did before. No class.
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(09-10-2017 09:07 AM)luvyosef Wrote:  
(09-09-2017 12:30 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  For Paterno's sake, it was better off for him that he died when he did.

Depending on what he took to the grave. Hope Joe Pa was able to get in one last good confession before departing Earth.

Wouldn't have mattered. Man cannot forgive your sins.
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RE: police report reveals. paterno may have known of earlier Sandusky Abuse
(09-11-2017 03:08 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote:  Yeah, there's an article about him being honored back in 2012, and he couldn't be there due to the affliction. Looking back, it looks like yet another bad gesture by the school.

The allegations from the 70s didn't come out until 2015/2016 (prior to 2012). Calling it a "bad gesture" should be looked at in that context.

The honoring was a plaque in the press box. Nice, but not some tremendous production either. Anyway, it was done more for Tarman's family vs. Tarman himself (who, unfortunately, wouldn't know what was going on). Whatever sins Tarman may have on his ledger, they aren't his family's sins.

I'm not a Paterno/Spanier/Schultz/Curley supporter. I also think anyone, like you, who is criticizing PSU for a Tarman gesture in 2012 is making a mountain out of a molehill.
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RE: police report reveals. paterno may have known of earlier Sandusky Abuse
(09-11-2017 03:14 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 09:07 AM)luvyosef Wrote:  
(09-09-2017 12:30 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  For Paterno's sake, it was better off for him that he died when he did.

Depending on what he took to the grave. Hope Joe Pa was able to get in one last good confession before departing Earth.

Wouldn't have mattered. Man cannot forgive your sins.

Absolutely right. Christ does through the Apostles and their successors. John 20 and John 21. Good day.
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What do you tell yourself if you're an alum? It's not your fault that the old ball coach was corrupt, but you're always going to have it held against you.
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(09-11-2017 04:36 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  What do you tell yourself if you're an alum? It's not your fault that the old ball coach was corrupt, but you're always going to have it held against you.

If I'm an alum of Penn State, I would still support the football program. It was never the fans fault, the boosters fault, etc. I think Sandusky, McQueeney, Paterno and any other coach/administrator that knew AT LEAST ONE INCIDENT and didn't report it are the only people that should be held liable. Well, except Paterno.
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I couldn't do it. If I was an alumni I wouldn't support any of it. Do you know how many Catholics left the church after the child abuse scandal came out? Personally, I would see my support for the program as a tacit disregard of what happened.
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(09-11-2017 04:45 PM)luvyosef Wrote:  If I'm an alum of Penn State, I would still support the football program. It was never the fans fault, the boosters fault, etc.

Of course this is true.

I enjoy college football and attending PSU games is a great way for me to continue to connect with my college friends.

I see no reason for the failures of other Penn Staters to change either of the above.

Many of the "screw Penn State" folk you see posting in threads like this are virtue signalers. They say stuff like: "I don't support children being raped, or rape being covered up." Wow. Bold stance they're taking there. They say this as if 99.99% of PSU folk don't think the exact same thing.
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(09-11-2017 05:05 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I couldn't do it. If I was an alumni I wouldn't support any of it. Do you know how many Catholics left the church after the child abuse scandal came out? Personally, I would see my support for the program as a tacit disregard of what happened.

Talk's cheap. Easy to tell me what others to do in a situation you're unlikely to find yourself in.
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RE: police report reveals. paterno may have known of earlier Sandusky Abuse
(09-11-2017 05:05 PM)jaredf29 Wrote:  I couldn't do it. If I was an alumni I wouldn't support any of it. Do you know how many Catholics left the church after the child abuse scandal came out? Personally, I would see my support for the program as a tacit disregard of what happened.

The school should have hit the reset button on the football program.

Now, the program will be tainted with that for a very long time, perhaps forever.

If I was a Penn. State fan that is what I would be mad about. They let this happen in the first place and then they made sure the brand stuck.
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