Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
Author Message
billybobby777 Offline
The REAL BillyBobby
*

Posts: 11,898
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 502
I Root For: ECU, Army
Location: Houston dont sleepon
Post: #1
3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
I see that Kent St has 3 pay day games in 2020:
@Alabama
@Arkansas
@Kentucky
Is this normal for a school in a conference to do? I know an Indy like NMSU or UMASS needs these to survive...1 money game in a year I understand. But 3? Does this mean that Kent St wouldn't make it as an FBS program if they didn't have the 5 million they'll receive for playing 3 money games?
09-08-2017 05:57 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


ken d Online
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 17,332
Joined: Dec 2013
Reputation: 1211
I Root For: college sports
Location: Raleigh
Post: #2
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
I don't know that there is a "normal" here. I do know that some FCS schools have done this in the past. It doesn't impact them for the post-season, because they can still qualify for the playoff with all those losses. But for Kent, it seems to almost concede that there won't be a bowl game to worry about. Of course, going to a bowl doesn't put any money in the bank, so why not cash those big checks?
09-08-2017 06:52 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Kaplony Offline
Palmetto State Deplorable

Posts: 25,393
Joined: Apr 2013
I Root For: Newberry
Location: SC
Post: #3
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-08-2017 05:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I see that Kent St has 3 pay day games in 2020:
@Alabama
@Arkansas
@Kentucky
Is this normal for a school in a conference to do? I know an Indy like NMSU or UMASS needs these to survive...1 money game in a year I understand. But 3? Does this mean that Kent St wouldn't make it as an FBS program if they didn't have the 5 million they'll receive for playing 3 money games?

They have three next year as well

@Illinois
@Penn State
@Ole Miss
09-08-2017 07:02 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Hood-rich Offline
Smarter Than the Average Lib

Posts: 9,300
Joined: May 2016
I Root For: ECU & CSU
Location: The Hood
Post: #4
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
I wish ECU would do one every year. But 3 seems ridiculous.

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app
09-08-2017 07:05 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
bullet Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 66,292
Joined: Apr 2012
Reputation: 3285
I Root For: Texas, UK, UGA
Location:
Post: #5
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-08-2017 07:05 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  I wish ECU would do one every year. But 3 seems ridiculous.

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app

Kent has no fans so they need to make money some way.
09-08-2017 07:20 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Kaplony Offline
Palmetto State Deplorable

Posts: 25,393
Joined: Apr 2013
I Root For: Newberry
Location: SC
Post: #6
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-08-2017 07:20 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 07:05 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  I wish ECU would do one every year. But 3 seems ridiculous.

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app

Kent has no fans so they need to make money some way.

I was actually shocked to see a couple Kent State fans at Clemson Saturday.

Of course they probably moved to SC a decade ago but it was still surprising.
09-08-2017 07:32 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


JRsec Offline
Super Moderator
*

Posts: 37,886
Joined: Mar 2012
Reputation: 7737
I Root For: SEC
Location:
Post: #7
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-08-2017 05:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I see that Kent St has 3 pay day games in 2020:
@Alabama
@Arkansas
@Kentucky
Is this normal for a school in a conference to do? I know an Indy like NMSU or UMASS needs these to survive...1 money game in a year I understand. But 3? Does this mean that Kent St wouldn't make it as an FBS program if they didn't have the 5 million they'll receive for playing 3 money games?

They must be trying to audition for the SEC.
09-08-2017 07:55 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Kaplony Offline
Palmetto State Deplorable

Posts: 25,393
Joined: Apr 2013
I Root For: Newberry
Location: SC
Post: #8
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-08-2017 07:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 05:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I see that Kent St has 3 pay day games in 2020:
@Alabama
@Arkansas
@Kentucky
Is this normal for a school in a conference to do? I know an Indy like NMSU or UMASS needs these to survive...1 money game in a year I understand. But 3? Does this mean that Kent St wouldn't make it as an FBS program if they didn't have the 5 million they'll receive for playing 3 money games?

They must be trying to audition for the SEC.

They could be competitive in the East
09-08-2017 08:22 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
JRsec Offline
Super Moderator
*

Posts: 37,886
Joined: Mar 2012
Reputation: 7737
I Root For: SEC
Location:
Post: #9
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-08-2017 08:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 07:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 05:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I see that Kent St has 3 pay day games in 2020:
@Alabama
@Arkansas
@Kentucky
Is this normal for a school in a conference to do? I know an Indy like NMSU or UMASS needs these to survive...1 money game in a year I understand. But 3? Does this mean that Kent St wouldn't make it as an FBS program if they didn't have the 5 million they'll receive for playing 3 money games?

They must be trying to audition for the SEC.

They could be competitive in the East

The East is doing some better. Cocky has a QB. Missouri can score but has no D. Kentucky makes you earn it these days. Vandy actually has some game. And Georgia's D is quality. The offense has yet to truly prove itself. It's only Florida that's mired in the Swamp.
09-08-2017 08:44 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Stugray2 Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,175
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 679
I Root For: tOSU SJSU Stan'
Location: South Bay Area CA
Post: #10
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-08-2017 05:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I see that Kent St has 3 pay day games in 2020:
@Alabama
@Arkansas
@Kentucky
Is this normal for a school in a conference to do? I know an Indy like NMSU or UMASS needs these to survive...1 money game in a year I understand. But 3? Does this mean that Kent St wouldn't make it as an FBS program if they didn't have the 5 million they'll receive for playing 3 money games?

It means the State of Ohio is looking very seriously at institutional transfers of money.
09-08-2017 08:45 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
MWC Tex Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 7,850
Joined: Aug 2012
Reputation: 179
I Root For: MW
Location: TX
Post: #11
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
Maybe they are upping their SOS for the Access Bowl.COGS

However, just think the position they would be in if they won those games. I wish the stronger teams in the MW would play more games against the P5. If they win theybset themselves up for playoff consideration.
09-08-2017 10:23 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


panite Offline
Heisman
*

Posts: 6,216
Joined: Feb 2006
Reputation: 221
I Root For: Owls-SC-RU-Navy
Location:
Post: #12
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-08-2017 07:55 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-08-2017 05:57 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I see that Kent St has 3 pay day games in 2020:
@Alabama
@Arkansas
@Kentucky
Is this normal for a school in a conference to do? I know an Indy like NMSU or UMASS needs these to survive...1 money game in a year I understand. But 3? Does this mean that Kent St wouldn't make it as an FBS program if they didn't have the 5 million they'll receive for playing 3 money games?

They must be trying to audition for the SEC.

Or feel that they can get an AAC invite because the SEC recognizes them as a worthy P5 opponent for scheduling purposes like Army. 05-stirthepot 05-stirthepot 05-stirthepot 04-jawdrop 04-rock 03-shhhh 04-cheers
09-09-2017 02:01 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BruceMcF Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 13,099
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 760
I Root For: Reds/Buckeyes/.
Location:
Post: #13
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-08-2017 07:02 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  They have three next year as well

@Illinois
@Penn State
@Ole Miss
To be fair, though, one of those is Illinois. So while it is a buy game, it is on par with one of their tougher MAC games.
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2017 02:42 AM by BruceMcF.)
09-09-2017 02:38 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Bronco'14 Online
WMU
*

Posts: 12,353
Joined: Aug 2012
Reputation: 201
I Root For: WMU Broncos
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Post: #14
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
This is nothing new. Other G5 teams do it once in a while too. Western Michigan played Michigan, Michigan St, and Indiana in the late 2000s. PJ Fleck's first year with us, when we went 1-11, we played Northwestern, Michigan St, and Iowa.

An ideal G5 OOC schedule should look like
1.) vs top Power 5
2.) FCS
3.) vs bottom Power 5
4.) vs Group of 5
09-09-2017 07:36 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
quo vadis Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 50,012
Joined: Aug 2008
Reputation: 2370
I Root For: USF/Georgetown
Location: New Orleans
Post: #15
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-09-2017 07:36 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  This is nothing new. Other G5 teams do it once in a while too. Western Michigan played Michigan, Michigan St, and Indiana in the late 2000s. PJ Fleck's first year with us, when we went 1-11, we played Northwestern, Michigan St, and Iowa.

An ideal G5 OOC schedule should look like
1.) vs top Power 5
2.) FCS
3.) vs bottom Power 5
4.) vs Group of 5

Yes, but IMO a "payday" game is different from merely playing a P5. E.g., if Boise plays at Oregon State, they may get a nice check for doing so, but it's not a payday game because Boise has a legit chance to win it. *On paper*, it's a competitive game.

In my book, payday games are games that are viewed as having essentially no value to the lesser-division team playing it other than money, as even they know that unless lightning strikes (e.g., Appalachian State > Michigan), they have almost no chance to win. On paper, it appears to be an obvious mismatch. That doesn't mean that every so often the payday team doesn't win, but it's just viewed as an extremely unlikely outcome.

E.g., two years ago, when my FCS Southern University played at Georgia, that was a classic "payday" game. Everyone knew it was going to be non-competitive, SU took the game to cash a big check, Georgia gave us the game to get an easy win before a home crowd and see our peerless marching band at halftime (that was actually in the contract, theoretically, we could have left half our football team at home, but we had to bring our full band to the game).
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2017 08:14 AM by quo vadis.)
09-09-2017 08:07 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
chargeradio Offline
Vamos Morados
*

Posts: 7,466
Joined: Mar 2007
Reputation: 121
I Root For: ALA, KY, USA
Location: Louisville, KY
Post: #16
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
Nick Sabah has some ties to Kent State, so this will not be their first trip to Bryant-Denny.
09-09-2017 09:45 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


quo vadis Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 50,012
Joined: Aug 2008
Reputation: 2370
I Root For: USF/Georgetown
Location: New Orleans
Post: #17
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-09-2017 09:45 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  Nick Sabah has some ties to Kent State, so this will not be their first trip to Bryant-Denny.

Pretty strong ties. Its his alma mater, where he earned two degrees and played college football, and started his coaching career, so it's no accident that he's scheduled them a few times.

IIRC, he was on campus as a student at the time of the shootings in May, 1970.
(This post was last modified: 09-10-2017 11:09 AM by quo vadis.)
09-09-2017 07:24 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
lance99 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,121
Joined: Jun 2013
Reputation: 21
I Root For: Akron Zips
Location:
Post: #18
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
Akron has the following in this order:

@Nebraska
@Northwestern
@Iowa State(which technically does not count)

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mid-amer/akron-zips.php

We may need the $$$, but at this price?
09-09-2017 10:58 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
lance99 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,121
Joined: Jun 2013
Reputation: 21
I Root For: Akron Zips
Location:
Post: #19
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
Akron has the following in this order in 2018:

@Nebraska
@Northwestern
@Iowa State(which technically does not count)

http://www.fbschedules.com/ncaa/mid-amer/akron-zips.php

We may need the $$$, but at this price?
(This post was last modified: 09-09-2017 11:00 PM by lance99.)
09-09-2017 10:58 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
BruceMcF Offline
Hall of Famer
*

Posts: 13,099
Joined: Jan 2013
Reputation: 760
I Root For: Reds/Buckeyes/.
Location:
Post: #20
RE: 3 pay day games in 1 season? New normal for some?
(09-09-2017 10:58 PM)lance99 Wrote:  @Iowa State(which technically does not count)
Why not, is it a 2-1 / 3-1 rather than a buy game?
09-10-2017 12:21 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.