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(09-10-2017 07:22 AM)odu83alumni Wrote:  I like Larussa's story and he seems like a great guy. I believe Larussa will make a great backup that will play occasionally. Hoy simply makes our offense much more dangerous.

Our offense was beyond one dimensional with Hoy in the game. I am not sure where the Hoy offers more argument is coming from. There is zero chance we don't get blown out the next two games running read option (not that well, I might add) on every play, and that is why both QBs will play until one of them gets better at the aspects of the game where they come up short.

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(09-10-2017 08:52 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  How do we say this when Hoy hasnt hit one pass downfield all year long?

Blake gives us the downfield passing threat. Hoy, at this point, is relagated to read option and one read passes. UMASS was on to It, but luckily they cant tackle and we were able to get running game going in second half (well, after that Jackson run).

Is Hoy going to be able to run around VT and UNC defenders in the next 2 weeks if they know what is coming?

The bottom line is neither QB is lighting it up. The offense has moved drastically better with Larussa, but maybe the playbook slowly expands as Hoy gets experience. Right now, we are very limited in what we do with Hoy under center. I do expect Hoy to get more and more time as he gets experience.

This is spot on. Hoy was effective once the defense wore down and we were able to power through them on the ground. He was completely ineffective prior to that. Both of them need the running game to get better to help them, but BL is light years better in the passing game right now.

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(09-10-2017 06:24 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(09-10-2017 07:22 AM)odu83alumni Wrote:  I like Larussa's story and he seems like a great guy. I believe Larussa will make a great backup that will play occasionally. Hoy simply makes our offense much more dangerous.

Our offense was beyond one dimensional with Hoy in the game. I am not sure where the Hoy offers more argument is coming from. There is zero chance we don't get blown out the next two games running read option (not that well, I might add) on every play, and that is why both QBs will play until one of them gets better at the aspects of the game where they come up short.

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I agree. Neither QB is doing very well, but it seems Hoy's skillset is more limited when it comes to THROWING. You know, one of the more important aspects of a QB's attributes. My vote is for LaRussa until Hoy can prove he can consistently be more than just a running threat. The sample size is really small though.

If the coaches believe these guys are the #1 and #2 QB's on the chart, I don't think we want to see Arnold get playing time.

The fact is neither quarterback is left in long enough to develop any kind of rhythm. Both Qb's being so young and inexperienced makes for opening the entire playbook very difficult. Youthful mistakes are something that we as fans have to be very patient about, that's just a fact of life. The only complaint I have is I wish Wilder could have found a way to get Larussa more playing time last year.

(09-10-2017 08:12 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  The fact is neither quarterback is left in long enough to develop any kind of rhythm. Both Qb's being so young and inexperienced makes for opening the entire playbook very difficult. Youthful mistakes are something that we as fans have to be very patient about, that's just a fact of life. The only complaint I have is I wish Wilder could have found a way to get Larussa more playing time last year.

Well I believe we will find out who the quarterback is after the next two games.

(09-11-2017 06:15 AM)odu83alumni Wrote:  

(09-10-2017 08:12 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  The fact is neither quarterback is left in long enough to develop any kind of rhythm. Both Qb's being so young and inexperienced makes for opening the entire playbook very difficult. Youthful mistakes are something that we as fans have to be very patient about, that's just a fact of life. The only complaint I have is I wish Wilder could have found a way to get Larussa more playing time last year.

Well I believe we will find out who the quarterback is after the next two games.

I doubt we will feel very good about either of them after the next two games. I was optimistic about the UNC game being a good game, but now I am hoping to not get blown out in both.

That said, I still think we will have a solid season and eventually the offense will be fine. We see this terribly slow start on offense almost every year.

Paul McCartney had "The Band On The Run." I suppose who ever ends up being our starter will be "The Quarterback That Can Throw on the Run and Run." Nothing wrong with this and it should open up the offense some.

(09-11-2017 06:15 AM)odu83alumni Wrote:  

(09-10-2017 08:12 PM)Old Blue Wrote:  The fact is neither quarterback is left in long enough to develop any kind of rhythm. Both Qb's being so young and inexperienced makes for opening the entire playbook very difficult. Youthful mistakes are something that we as fans have to be very patient about, that's just a fact of life. The only complaint I have is I wish Wilder could have found a way to get Larussa more playing time last year.

Well I believe we will find out who the quarterback is after the next two games.

The one most likely to be able to stand up for the next play.

Hoy is more explosive.
We have a lot of receivers that need to learn how to caught - that's mainly because the offense line can't protect. Use a couple defensive lineman labeled as 3s to help on the offense line. Blocking is a more passive role than what they will do on defense. Look at what Stanford and LSU does. Defenses never get to their QBs. Also I noticed too there was big holes between the front five on our offensive line. They make the run play a little too obvious sometimes.

I hate 3 and outs. We were relieved last year when DW replaced "Stonefeet" Bentley, then the offense flowed.

If Hoy can do that for this year, then more power to him!!

(09-11-2017 03:16 PM)Retroview1955 Wrote:  Hoy is more explosive.
We have a lot of receivers that need to learn how to caught - that's mainly because the offense line can't protect. Use a couple defensive lineman labeled as 3s to help on the offense line. Blocking is a more passive role than what they will do on defense. Look at what Stanford and LSU does. Defenses never get to their QBs. Also I noticed too there was big holes between the front five on our offensive line. They make the run play a little too obvious sometimes.

Hmm Stanford...who was ranked 102nd last year with 34 sacks given up?

(09-11-2017 03:42 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-11-2017 03:16 PM)Retroview1955 Wrote:  Hoy is more explosive.
We have a lot of receivers that need to learn how to caught - that's mainly because the offense line can't protect. Use a couple defensive lineman labeled as 3s to help on the offense line. Blocking is a more passive role than what they will do on defense. Look at what Stanford and LSU does. Defenses never get to their QBs. Also I noticed too there was big holes between the front five on our offensive line. They make the run play a little too obvious sometimes.

Hmm Stanford...who was ranked 102nd last year with 34 sacks given up?

Was LSU or Stanford?